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[WESG 2017] Europe & CIS Finals - Groups C & D

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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 08:32 GMT
#1

WESG 2017


Friday, Nov 24 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Electronic_Sports_Games_2017/Europe_&_CIS

Streams & Casters


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Format

  • Round-Robin Group Stage:
  • All matches are Best of 3.
  • Top 3 players of each group advance to Playoffs Stage:
  • Player in First place advances directly to Round of 8.
  • Players in Second and Third places play a match for a Round of 8 spot.
  • 12 players Playoffs Stage:
  • Single-elimination Playoffs:
  • All matches are Best of 5 except Finals which are Best of 7.
  • Top 12 players are qualified for the Global Finals.

Group Stage


Group C
(P)ShoWTimE (Z)Serral (T)Clem (Z)Starbuck (P)NightEnD
Group D
(Z)Nerchio (Z)Lambo (Z)sLivko (T)DeMusliM (P)Majestic


Results


+ Show Spoiler [Group C] +


+ Show Spoiler [Matchlist] +


+ Show Spoiler [Group D] +


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 08:32 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Advances Group C

Serral (12)
 
60%

ShowTime (5)
 
25%

Starbuck (2)
 
10%

Clem (1)
 
5%

Nightend (0)
 
0%

20 total votes

Your vote: Who Advances Group C

(Vote): ShowTime
(Vote): Serral
(Vote): Clem
(Vote): Starbuck
(Vote): Nightend


Poll: Who Advances Group D

Nerchio (15)
 
75%

Lambo (2)
 
10%

Slivko (1)
 
5%

Demuslim (1)
 
5%

Majestic (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Who Advances Group D

(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Lambo
(Vote): Slivko
(Vote): Demuslim
(Vote): Majestic

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VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
November 24 2017 09:42 GMT
#3
Hyped for another day!
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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
November 24 2017 12:56 GMT
#4
hoping that showtime and serral win all their matches to face off for first place in the last group match
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OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
November 24 2017 14:03 GMT
#5
I don't believe I've seen a zerg contained so hard as sLivko is right now
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 15:10:32
November 24 2017 14:18 GMT
#6
Fun fuct about Slivko for those who didnt catch it on stream: He started his own company - "importing meat" from Kazkhstan i think. Did not play much sc recently.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
November 24 2017 14:53 GMT
#7
On November 24 2017 23:18 Silvanel wrote:
Fun fuct about Slivko for those who didnt ctach it on stream: He started his own company - importing meat" from Kazkhstan i think. Did not play much sc recently.

is he still massive af?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
November 24 2017 15:00 GMT
#8
I think Nerchio refusing to get armour upgrade or tech up is making this game a lot closer than it should.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
November 24 2017 15:05 GMT
#9
Demu pls
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
November 24 2017 15:10 GMT
#10
On November 24 2017 23:53 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2017 23:18 Silvanel wrote:
Fun fuct about Slivko for those who didnt ctach it on stream: He started his own company - importing meat" from Kazkhstan i think. Did not play much sc recently.

is he still massive af?


Didnt catch him much on stream. Only saw him towering over his monitor. I would say he is still buffed, not sure how much in relation to the past.
Pathetic Greta hater.
MarthTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany387 Posts
November 24 2017 15:28 GMT
#11
Have to say I really enjoy the combination of casters. And its always great to see Brendan in action

Now if ShoWTimE and Lambo make it out of their groups everything's perfect :D
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Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
November 24 2017 15:56 GMT
#12
Starbuck almost made the 2-0 upset happen against Serral. The second map was very close.
starcraft2.fi
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 24 2017 16:14 GMT
#13
On November 25 2017 00:28 MarthTV wrote:
Have to say I really enjoy the combination of casters. And its always great to see Brendan in action

Now if ShoWTimE and Lambo make it out of their groups everything's perfect :D

i rarely find time to watch vods anymore, but im definitely going to go back and watch these games because rotti and brendan are probably my two favorite casters
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 16:15 GMT
#14
Beat Lambo and your through Benjy <333
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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2393 Posts
November 24 2017 16:16 GMT
#15
doesnt starbuck come out in 3rd if clem 2-0s nightend ? or how do tiebreakers work
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 24 2017 16:17 GMT
#16
Anyone has the tiebreaker rules ?
Zest fanboy.
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 16:27:17
November 24 2017 16:20 GMT
#17
2.1.4 Group results are determined as follows. Each match win awards 1 point, a loss 0 points.
Players will be ranked according to points scored. Ties in the groups are resolved as follows:
2.1.4.1 If two players have the same amount of points, their head-to-head result
determines their order in the ranking.
2.1.4.2 If three, four or five players have the same amount of points, the following rules
determine their order in the ranking (in order of importance):
● Game score based on the total group results.
● Points based on matches between the tied players only.
● Game score based on the matches between the tied players only.
● If more than two players are still tied then round-robin Bo1 tie-breaker matches
shall be played with the tied players. The admins will decide the match order. If
after application of the above rules only two players are tied, two-player
tie-breaker rules (see above) will be applied

seems like liquipedia is wrong? clem should be out not starbuck
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 16:26 GMT
#18
Yeah that does pose an interesting head to head, some how starbuck would go through if Clem 2-0s Nightend, but it doesn't save Clem, he is 100% out.

Nightend just needs to win to advance
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 16:33 GMT
#19
Benjy what you doing to me, stop making mech units XD
1-0 up currently though vs Lambo! Win and your through brooo
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 16:44 GMT
#20
Wow Demuslim did it! Mech is king!
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 24 2017 16:44 GMT
#21
WP Demuslim
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1218 Posts
November 24 2017 16:47 GMT
#22
Lambo
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2017 17:09 GMT
#23
Wow, what happened Lambo .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
November 24 2017 17:12 GMT
#24
Clem is really not playing well. 0-8 deserved.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 24 2017 17:15 GMT
#25
On November 25 2017 02:12 djraphi23 wrote:
Clem is really not playing well. 0-8 deserved.


The casters kept mentioning how young he was, so I took a look at Liquipedia. Holy cow, he does looks very young in his profile picture.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Clem
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 24 2017 17:18 GMT
#26
On November 25 2017 02:15 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2017 02:12 djraphi23 wrote:
Clem is really not playing well. 0-8 deserved.


The casters kept mentioning how young he was, so I took a look at Liquipedia. Holy cow, he does looks very young in his profile picture.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Clem


Holy crap, that is young.
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 17:30:02
November 24 2017 17:29 GMT
#27
wtf how demu 2-0ed lambo ?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2017 17:34 GMT
#28
On November 25 2017 02:29 Gurbak wrote:
wtf how demu 2-0ed lambo ?

no idea, but I guess Lambo just didn't play on his usual level

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 24 2017 17:39 GMT
#29
Really sad about Lambo's result, he was looking way more prepared in his streams.

Hopefully he can take this as a learning experience/motivation and do better next time. Fighting!
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 17:43 GMT
#30
They need to double the pay of casters then penalize them every time they misuse the word "cheeky".
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4041 Posts
November 24 2017 17:47 GMT
#31
something was really wrong about that attack. Did a single protoss unit die there?
Drone is a way of living
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2017 17:50 GMT
#32
the year of Showtime is upon us
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
November 24 2017 17:51 GMT
#33
On November 25 2017 02:43 Boggyb wrote:
They need to double the pay of casters then penalize them every time they misuse the word "cheeky".


They still need to get paid... I can't see them leaving without debt under these rules ^^

----

One thing I've really genuinely hated about the design of Zerg is that it feels like so many strategic victories (eg: very late scouted nydus) can be negated by just good control. Zerg has so few ways to leverage this compared to Terran and Protoss. Mutalisks used to do this somewhat in HotS, but it's always been a major weak point. Inevitably, at levels where players don't have this control, Zerg is too strong. And when they do, Zerg feels very vulnerable to plays that just hinge on only mechanics, even when the information game has played out in their favour.

That said, ShowTime played that series very well. Overall some good games today.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 18:01:30
November 24 2017 17:57 GMT
#34
Apparently the Ro12 is:
A2/B3 Minato - Rail
A3/B2 Namshar - Bly
C2/D3 Serral
C3/D2 NightEnD
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 18:03:07
November 24 2017 18:02 GMT
#35
On November 25 2017 02:51 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2017 02:43 Boggyb wrote:
They need to double the pay of casters then penalize them every time they misuse the word "cheeky".


They still need to get paid... I can't see them leaving without debt under these rules ^^

----

One thing I've really genuinely hated about the design of Zerg is that it feels like so many strategic victories (eg: very late scouted nydus) can be negated by just good control. Zerg has so few ways to leverage this compared to Terran and Protoss. Mutalisks used to do this somewhat in HotS, but it's always been a major weak point. Inevitably, at levels where players don't have this control, Zerg is too strong. And when they do, Zerg feels very vulnerable to plays that just hinge on only mechanics, even when the information game has played out in their favour.

That said, ShowTime played that series very well. Overall some good games today.


I think the trick is to force these players to make control mistakes. Certain players that I don't want to name were famous for always having lings at their opponent's base so that their opponents never could only focus on one attack, and they won incredibly consistently.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 18:21 GMT
#36
Majestic was doing really well there that game till he lost that warp prism...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2017 18:22 GMT
#37
On November 25 2017 03:21 Boggyb wrote:
Majestic was doing really well there that game till he lost that warp prism...

He also lost all his stalkers at the same time. He had 4 army supply when he left.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
November 24 2017 18:24 GMT
#38
Nerchio and Elazer didn't drop a single map. POLISH ZERG BEST ZERG

Also I thought that part of window was on my pc and I tried to close it. Then I realized it's part of the stream. Triggered.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 18:26 GMT
#39
On November 25 2017 03:22 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2017 03:21 Boggyb wrote:
Majestic was doing really well there that game till he lost that warp prism...

He also lost all his stalkers at the same time. He had 4 army supply when he left.

I mainly meant he could have pulled back and transitioned to a macro game and been ahead. Obviously Nerchio is a stronger player and probably wins regardless which was probably why Majestic was still trying to be aggressive.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 18:35 GMT
#40
Majestic is not great with his warp prisms...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 18:36:02
November 24 2017 18:35 GMT
#41
On November 25 2017 03:26 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2017 03:22 Musicus wrote:
On November 25 2017 03:21 Boggyb wrote:
Majestic was doing really well there that game till he lost that warp prism...

He also lost all his stalkers at the same time. He had 4 army supply when he left.

I mainly meant he could have pulled back and transitioned to a macro game and been ahead. Obviously Nerchio is a stronger player and probably wins regardless which was probably why Majestic was still trying to be aggressive.

Yeah I agree with all of that and he played well.

I just meant you sentence should have included the Stalkers

"Majestic was doing really well there that game till he lost that warp prism... and lost all his Stalkers"
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 18:39 GMT
#42
The game was already over awhile ago, but losing ~5 stalkers with the move command would have been brutal in a closer game.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
November 24 2017 18:49 GMT
#43
This looks like my PvT. Literally dying to anything terran.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 18:52 GMT
#44
DeMuslim <333 he's back!!!
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 18:52 GMT
#45
The Ro12 should be:
A2/B3 Minato - Rail
A3/B2 Namshar - Bly
C2/D3 Serral - Majestic
C3/D2 NightEnD - DeMusliM

I'd guess: Minato, Namshar, Serral, NightEnD
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 18:55 GMT
#46
I would favour my man DeMuslim against Nightend, he beat him in the same spot last season in the RO12 haha :D
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4041 Posts
November 24 2017 19:12 GMT
#47
On November 25 2017 03:55 Pandemona wrote:
I would favour my man DeMuslim against Nightend, he beat him in the same spot last season in the RO12 haha :D


yeah well on his stream he had quite fun games vs Nightend, not necessarily easy ones
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