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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 04 2017 22:35 GMT
#1041
On November 05 2017 07:33 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:30 Solar424 wrote:
This thread is why Blizzard are afraid of buffing Zerg, everyone hates the mirror.

Huh? Why would they buff race that have majority of players in almost any tournament? Especially in WCS?

Think they're referring to announced design changes, zerg got pretty much nothing
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 04 2017 22:35 GMT
#1042
On November 05 2017 07:34 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:29 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty terrible. No defense at any of the bases so he loses/has to lift three of them. Does TY actually know how to mech? Legit question here. His approach is extremely questionable. He kept on trying to avoid a front confrontation and tried trade bases for army then he'll leave his own bases completely undefended and lose his eco. He also attached right before +1 finished (had around 7 sec, would've made a diff imo).


TY is not a mech player, TBH I could see innovation as the only one actually playing proper mech.

TY has the best late game ghost/lib control I have no idea why he used those comps he was clearly not comfortable using.


INno might have played proper mech with marine, marauders and medivacs.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 04 2017 22:35 GMT
#1043
On November 05 2017 07:34 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:29 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty terrible. No defense at any of the bases so he loses/has to lift three of them. Does TY actually know how to mech? Legit question here. His approach is extremely questionable. He kept on trying to avoid a front confrontation and tried trade bases for army then he'll leave his own bases completely undefended and lose his eco. He also attached right before +1 finished (had around 7 sec, would've made a diff imo).


TY is not a mech player, TBH I could see innovation as the only one actually playing proper mech.

TY has the best late game ghost/lib control I have no idea why he used those comps he was clearly not comfortable using.


Because bio play is crushed by hydras apparently
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
November 04 2017 22:35 GMT
#1044
On November 05 2017 07:33 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:29 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty terrible. No defense at any of the bases so he loses/has to lift three of them. Does TY actually know how to mech? Legit question here. His approach is extremely questionable. He kept on trying to avoid a front confrontation and tried trade bases for army then he'll leave his own bases completely undefended and lose his eco. He also attached right before +1 finished (had around 7 sec, would've made a diff imo).

Nope, he doesn't know how to play the game. He never practiced playing mech, he didn't play vs one of the best players in the world. He was actually winging it entire time, too. Maybe he shoul'dve actually kept all of his army defending the satelatie bases so he could've never left his half of the map and let Zerg get to a 5k/5k bank on 80 drones and win the game with ease? We will never know!

The +1 mech atk would have made a difference tho.
WriterMaru
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 22:35:25
November 04 2017 22:35 GMT
#1045
On November 05 2017 07:34 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:29 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty terrible. No defense at any of the bases so he loses/has to lift three of them. Does TY actually know how to mech? Legit question here. His approach is extremely questionable. He kept on trying to avoid a front confrontation and tried trade bases for army then he'll leave his own bases completely undefended and lose his eco. He also attached right before +1 finished (had around 7 sec, would've made a diff imo).


TY is not a mech player, TBH I could see innovation as the only one actually playing proper mech.

TY has the best late game ghost/lib control I have no idea why he used those comps he was clearly not comfortable using.


Gumiho played better mech than INnoVation
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
November 04 2017 22:35 GMT
#1046
On November 05 2017 07:34 Solar424 wrote:
This Blizzcon was the worst because of a ZvZ finals, not 2013 where half the games were off-stage and the finals was sOs crushing Jaedong's soul for 5 games.

at least some games were played on the real blizzcon stage
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
November 04 2017 22:35 GMT
#1047
On November 05 2017 07:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Reminder that Rogue HAD TO WINS SUPER TOURNAMENT to make Blizzcon. Now there's a very real shot that he's going to win Blizzcon on top of that

He did take sOs' spot on an odd year after all
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 04 2017 22:35 GMT
#1048
Rogue victory at this BlizzCon was the best what could have happened for the scene. TY was mentioning, in case, he wins, he would retire. soO mentioned the same. So good that neither TY, nor soO need to retire now.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 04 2017 22:35 GMT
#1049
On November 05 2017 07:35 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:33 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:30 Solar424 wrote:
This thread is why Blizzard are afraid of buffing Zerg, everyone hates the mirror.

Huh? Why would they buff race that have majority of players in almost any tournament? Especially in WCS?

Think they're referring to announced design changes, zerg got pretty much nothing


They got overpowered infestors, and the removal of the mothership core.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 04 2017 22:36 GMT
#1050
On November 05 2017 07:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:35 KeksX wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:33 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:30 Solar424 wrote:
This thread is why Blizzard are afraid of buffing Zerg, everyone hates the mirror.

Huh? Why would they buff race that have majority of players in almost any tournament? Especially in WCS?

Think they're referring to announced design changes, zerg got pretty much nothing


They got overpowered infestors, and the removal of the mothership core.

they already have overpowered infestors
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 04 2017 22:36 GMT
#1051
On November 05 2017 07:34 Solar424 wrote:
This Blizzcon was the worst because of a ZvZ finals, not 2013 where half the games were off-stage and the finals was sOs crushing Jaedong's soul for 5 games.


Y'a but back then I could taste JD fanboy tears
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Deleted User 329278
Profile Joined March 2014
123 Posts
November 04 2017 22:36 GMT
#1052
terran tears incoming stop it we drownin'
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 04 2017 22:37 GMT
#1053
On November 05 2017 07:33 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:29 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty terrible. No defense at any of the bases so he loses/has to lift three of them. Does TY actually know how to mech? Legit question here. His approach is extremely questionable. He kept on trying to avoid a front confrontation and tried trade bases for army then he'll leave his own bases completely undefended and lose his eco. He also attached right before +1 finished (had around 7 sec, would've made a diff imo).

Nope, he doesn't know how to play the game. He never practiced playing mech, he didn't play vs one of the best players in the world. He was actually winging it entire time, too. Maybe he shoul'dve actually kept all of his army defending the satelatie bases so he could've never left his half of the map and let Zerg get to a 5k/5k bank on 80 drones and win the game with ease? We will never know!

Your sarcasm is overflowing. If this was one game, sure but last game, the same thing happened and even the game before that. Ling runbys, undefended bases with orbitals instead of planetary, trading army for hatcheries etc... From my perspective, his mech play is uninspired and he lost games that he would've won had he went bio.

Also, since do corrupters kill ground buildings like in game 4 for orbital? What the damage output?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 04 2017 22:37 GMT
#1054
Will the finals be now, or in an hour?
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
November 04 2017 22:37 GMT
#1055
On November 05 2017 07:34 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:33 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:30 Solar424 wrote:
This thread is why Blizzard are afraid of buffing Zerg, everyone hates the mirror.

Huh? Why would they buff race that have majority of players in almost any tournament? Especially in WCS?

Yeah, look at all those Zerg GSL champions.

Zerg won tournaments this year and is about to win Blizzcon.
You were saying?
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
November 04 2017 22:38 GMT
#1056
On November 05 2017 07:31 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:29 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty terrible. No defense at any of the bases so he loses/has to lift three of them. Does TY actually know how to mech? Legit question here. His approach is extremely questionable. He kept on trying to avoid a front confrontation and tried trade bases for army then he'll leave his own bases completely undefended and lose his eco. He also attached right before +1 finished (had around 7 sec, would've made a diff imo).

Aren't huge swarm host armies pretty vulnerable to counter atttacks? Quick ones of course. His tries failed really badly though but I also thought they weren't done very well.


You mean sieging up just outside of range of a hatchery while SHs are on cooldown then waiting 20 sec until locusts are up to take the fight is not the way to do it??
hundred thousand krouner
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
November 04 2017 22:38 GMT
#1057
On November 05 2017 07:35 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:33 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On November 05 2017 07:30 Solar424 wrote:
This thread is why Blizzard are afraid of buffing Zerg, everyone hates the mirror.

Huh? Why would they buff race that have majority of players in almost any tournament? Especially in WCS?

Think they're referring to announced design changes, zerg got pretty much nothing


Except for the fact that infestors are ridiculous
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 04 2017 22:38 GMT
#1058
Poll: Is protoss to blame for this finals?

Terrans are chokers (10)
 
37%

Of course (8)
 
30%

No blame swarmhosts (7)
 
26%

Yes (2)
 
7%

27 total votes

Your vote: Is protoss to blame for this finals?

(Vote): Of course
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No blame swarmhosts
(Vote): Terrans are chokers


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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 22:40:05
November 04 2017 22:38 GMT
#1059
On November 05 2017 07:35 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 07:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Reminder that Rogue HAD TO WINS SUPER TOURNAMENT to make Blizzcon. Now there's a very real shot that he's going to win Blizzcon on top of that

He did take sOs' spot on an odd year after all


hm, having sOs on Blizzcon or taking his spot = winning the trophy :O

and yea, terrans the chokers
i expected herO v Innovation in semis but we got what we got :D
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
November 04 2017 22:38 GMT
#1060
On November 05 2017 07:35 Diabolique wrote:
Rogue victory at this BlizzCon was the best what could have happened for the scene. TY was mentioning, in case, he wins, he would retire. soO mentioned the same. So good that neither TY, nor soO need to retire now.


soO said hes not retiring though he wants to win this tournament so it will lead to many more victories he said in his interview after beating special.
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