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Binomyo
Profile Joined May 2014
France61 Posts
October 27 2017 21:33 GMT
#1461
Wow what game was that!

I must apologize to Neeb for not beleiving enough in his skills.
When I first witnessed him, I hough that he was a player with very good mechanics, a little shy but with not enough cleverness to beat the best of the best. While Neeb improved his play as time advance, I won't have seen him as a very top player.

But what he have shown in this games just prooved me wrong.

I've haven't seen Neeb games for a least 6 month and he shown such a greater level of play than before.
He was very clever in these games, showing such a great level of patience and strategy in the long term. Something I wouldn't have expected from him.

It's like I'm discovering a new player!

Very well done Neeb ! GL for your next games ! You should be in the top 4 of the best players (well now you are in my own top list :-) ).
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
October 27 2017 21:33 GMT
#1462
I also really enjoyed the game. It was tense and full of little tactical moves to gain an advantage. But I also enjoyed BL/inf and SH vs. mech.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12475 Posts
October 27 2017 21:34 GMT
#1463
On October 28 2017 06:33 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore


That was an awesome game? It was interesting I guess until the ending


It was awesome yeah. With Rogue not losing a PvZ lategame in the last, what, 3 months? it was awesome to see Neeb test him there and beat him at his own game.
No will to live, no wish to die
SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
October 27 2017 21:34 GMT
#1464
On October 28 2017 06:31 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:30 SnowfaLL wrote:
neeb really is a terran at heart, playing protoss.. no one else would friggin sit there behind a "tank" like wall for 50 minutes without losing his patience. So crazy.
Every time he was out of position he had a magic key to press.


one abduct or neural on MS = gg Neeb. Theres a reason Rogue ALWAYS wins that type of game, its actually very winnable to any zerg who doesnt just give up (so aka any zerg in Korea)
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 27 2017 21:34 GMT
#1465
Rogue's void rays werent targeting Neebs army but killing interceptors...
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 21:34:49
October 27 2017 21:34 GMT
#1466
delete pls, wrong button
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 27 2017 21:34 GMT
#1467
To be fair I thought the game was really good for the first 30-40 mins but eventually it gets tiring watching clumps of air units posturing and picking off straggling units
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
October 27 2017 21:34 GMT
#1468
On October 28 2017 06:25 Aldehyde wrote:
Man... I really want to get back into the Starcraft 2 scene but whenever I try to watch I see one of these snooze fests.


Snute vs Ty game 2 was amazing. However, it's absolutely insane how blizzard balance team still hasn't addressed this type of gameplay after that many years. Obviously the fundamental issue here is the strenght of air units against ground units. Make ground units counter tier 3 air units and you get a completely different dynamic. Watching immobile tier 3 air vs immobile zerg army was boring in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015,2016 and 2017.
theunabletable
Profile Joined October 2014
54 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 21:35:41
October 27 2017 21:34 GMT
#1469
On October 28 2017 06:32 Snakestyle1 wrote:
I dont think its possible to beat ultra late game protoss if protoss does not mess up.

If rogue cant do it getting the perfect army he can, noone can..


It wasn't the perfect army, though. It was an army that relied on fungals and perfect neurals. But Neeb just never engaged in the way in which that army can win (which was Rogue's mistake, he assumed that at some point he would get a good position for engagement). He didn't have vipers, and so he couldn't trade efficiently long term with the army.

I say this as a zerg. The only reason to use that army is that you assume your opponent won't control their army well. It's pretty cheesy tbh.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
October 27 2017 21:34 GMT
#1470
On October 28 2017 06:31 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:31 xenonn40 wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:28 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:27 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
29 infestors now xD

WoL Leenock would be proud


Remember that game with 75 infestors?


Crank vs someone I forget in GSL. Mass carrier vs instant fungal.

Freaky?

Bomber vs. Freaky was the ultimate ridiculous infestor game to me
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 27 2017 21:35 GMT
#1471
I don't recognize the man in the dark pink shirt. Who is that?
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 27 2017 21:35 GMT
#1472
Does mass neural ever work? Surely it just means you guarantee half the protoss army not dieing by the end of the fight
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
October 27 2017 21:35 GMT
#1473
On October 28 2017 06:34 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:33 Fango wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore


That was an awesome game? It was interesting I guess until the ending


It was awesome yeah. With Rogue not losing a PvZ lategame in the last, what, 3 months? it was awesome to see Neeb test him there and beat him at his own game.

He literally lost a lategame PvZ at the super tournament after completely destroying the protoss army.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 27 2017 21:35 GMT
#1474
On October 28 2017 06:34 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Rogue's void rays werent targeting Neebs army but killing interceptors...

Ya upon rewatching. Rogue finally cracked and took just an awful, awful engagement. There is no good fight vs skytoss but that was worse than it had to be
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 27 2017 21:35 GMT
#1475
Oh I thought Neeb - Rogue was the last game of the day.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 21:36:30
October 27 2017 21:35 GMT
#1476
On October 28 2017 06:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Ya look at how many infestors weren't doing anything in that last fight. Rogue took possibly the worst fight he could have. A fucking shame

he had so many infestors, even on that large of an opening some got stuck behind after the front line used fungals. arguably poor micro.

... either way, i would argue that he lost because a third of his supply had no attack/spellcast only and another third could only hit ground
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 27 2017 21:35 GMT
#1477
On October 28 2017 06:35 Fango wrote:
Does mass neural ever work? Surely it just means you guarantee half the protoss army not dieing by the end of the fight

Not if half the rest of your army crumbles first.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
October 27 2017 21:36 GMT
#1478
On October 28 2017 06:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:32 The_Templar wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore

Yeah, I really liked that game. Kind of surprised to see it's overwhelmingly negative here.

I'd have enjoyed it quite a lot if it had been like 20 minutes shorter. I found that third of the game uninteresting, and the way the game ended was just terrible.


The constant positional play back and forth sniping units here and there war of attrition and composition choice was awesome to watch and extremely tense I was at the edge of my seat and if you didn't enjoy that then I dunno why you bother watching you are never going to like SC2.

Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12475 Posts
October 27 2017 21:36 GMT
#1479
On October 28 2017 06:35 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:34 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:33 Fango wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore


That was an awesome game? It was interesting I guess until the ending


It was awesome yeah. With Rogue not losing a PvZ lategame in the last, what, 3 months? it was awesome to see Neeb test him there and beat him at his own game.

He literally lost a lategame PvZ at the super tournament after completely destroying the protoss army.


Ok I missed that one. So that's one. Completely defeats my point that Rogue is extremely comfortable there.
No will to live, no wish to die
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
October 27 2017 21:36 GMT
#1480
So it is the losers!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
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