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[GSL] Super Tournament Season 2 2017 - Day 2

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 22:08:48
September 29 2017 07:34 GMT
#1

GSL Super Tournament


Saturday, Sep 30 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2017_AfreecaTV_GSL_Super_Tournament_2

Streams



uk GSL


Format

  • Single-elimination bracket.
  • Round of 16: Best-of-five.
  • Quarterfinals: Best-of-five.
  • Semifinals: Best-of-five.
  • Finals: Best-of-seven.

Matches


Round of 16
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(T)INnoVation vs (P)Classic
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(P)Dear vs (Z)Rogue
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(Z)Dark vs (Z)soO
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(P)herO vs (P)sOs


Results


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
September 29 2017 07:34 GMT
#2
Poll: Dark vs Bunny

Dark Wins (16)
 
89%

Bunny Wins (2)
 
11%

18 total votes

Your vote: Dark vs Bunny

(Vote): Dark Wins
(Vote): Bunny Wins


Poll: soO vs Stats

soO Wins (10)
 
53%

Stats Wins (9)
 
47%

19 total votes

Your vote: soO vs Stats

(Vote): soO Wins
(Vote): Stats Wins


Poll: Zest vs herO

Zest Wins (9)
 
56%

herO Wins (7)
 
44%

16 total votes

Your vote: Zest vs herO

(Vote): Zest Wins
(Vote): herO Wins


Poll: Ryung vs sOs

sOs Wins (17)
 
89%

Ryung Wins (2)
 
11%

19 total votes

Your vote: Ryung vs sOs

(Vote): Ryung Wins
(Vote): sOs Wins

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Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
September 29 2017 07:39 GMT
#3
Dark has insane ZvT and sOs is such a baller, so sad to probably see only one Terran in the ro8
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 07:44 GMT
#4
This is the correct hype!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 29 2017 07:54 GMT
#5
Bunny can save us of a PvZvPvZvPvP bracket
TL+ Member
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
September 29 2017 07:56 GMT
#6
There is actually a good chance of the ro4 being PvPvPvP
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 08:04 GMT
#7
Artosis should use the TL sOs meme ... #NOTINTHISLIFETIME
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 08:08 GMT
#8
Darkkkuuuuuuuu
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 08:11 GMT
#9
Yeah Bunny is dead.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 08:13 GMT
#10
Bunny is underrated but Dark is the best ZvT
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 29 2017 08:19 GMT
#11
On September 29 2017 17:13 Fango wrote:
Bunny is underrated but Dark is the best ZvT


But it's Bunny soooo ...
TL+ Member
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 08:20 GMT
#12
Well ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 08:26:05
September 29 2017 08:25 GMT
#13
Is the idea behind the expension first on the third to make him believe that he went pool first?

edit : well, yeah. Just confirmed while typing. ^^

That was neat.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 08:27 GMT
#14
I like this build by Bunny.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 08:30 GMT
#15
RIP terran in this tournament
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
September 29 2017 08:32 GMT
#16
brutal, savage, rekt
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4529 Posts
September 29 2017 08:32 GMT
#17
SCVs got derped
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1204 Posts
September 29 2017 08:32 GMT
#18
Banelingsss
~~(,,ºº>
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
September 29 2017 08:33 GMT
#19
Savage.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 29 2017 08:33 GMT
#20
So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A
Liquipedia"Expert"
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 08:34 GMT
#21
On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote:
So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A

Not a great group for Snute.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 29 2017 08:34 GMT
#22
His splits was awful ...
TL+ Member
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 08:36 GMT
#23
On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote:
So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A


Special and Snute have a small chance. Most likely RIP though
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1204 Posts
September 29 2017 08:37 GMT
#24
As usual the korean ads makes me want to move there, find a cute korean gf, play sc2 and live happily ever after
~~(,,ºº>
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 29 2017 08:37 GMT
#25
On September 29 2017 17:34 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote:
So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A

Not a great group for Snute.


All the group are really bad for foreigner I have to say.
TL+ Member
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 29 2017 08:39 GMT
#26
On September 29 2017 17:30 Fango wrote:
RIP terran in this tournament



Terran are OP af atm
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 08:46:06
September 29 2017 08:45 GMT
#27
On September 29 2017 17:39 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 17:30 Fango wrote:
RIP terran in this tournament



Terran are OP af atm


I mean, making WM useless is totally justified, INno can win some match atm ...


User was temp banned for this post.
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 08:48 GMT
#28
Good guy Stats the only one not to make mass oracle.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 08:52 GMT
#29
Mutalisk into a loss, a classic.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 29 2017 08:52 GMT
#30
On September 29 2017 17:45 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 17:39 Mun_Su wrote:
On September 29 2017 17:30 Fango wrote:
RIP terran in this tournament



Terran are OP af atm


I mean, making WM useless is totally justified, INno can win some match atm ...

That's one of the changes I like. At least for early game the mine is really strong, I would be able to agree to give T an upgrade to make it the old way later. Similar changes would be awesome for more units(e.g. Oracle & Liberator)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 29 2017 08:54 GMT
#31
On September 29 2017 17:52 Ej_ wrote:
Mutalisk into a loss, a classic.

A soO classic, to be precise.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 29 2017 08:54 GMT
#32
On September 29 2017 17:52 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 17:45 DieuCure wrote:
On September 29 2017 17:39 Mun_Su wrote:
On September 29 2017 17:30 Fango wrote:
RIP terran in this tournament



Terran are OP af atm


I mean, making WM useless is totally justified, INno can win some match atm ...

That's one of the changes I like. At least for early game the mine is really strong, I would be able to agree to give T an upgrade to make it the old way later. Similar changes would be awesome for more units(e.g. Oracle & Liberator)


TBH making them more visible (but still detection needed for firing at them) would have been good.

Also INno won 3 major tournaments in a couple months, so Terran must be heavily favored
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 09:02:03
September 29 2017 09:00 GMT
#33
Would be very impresed with Stats if he won this game now.

e: as I say that
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 29 2017 09:02 GMT
#34
We will not be able to damage the economy with facto and starport units anymore.

Due to the multiple libe's nerf, queens up(lol), spore buff, wm nerf during lotv and they wonder why zerg eco is so strong nowadays...
TL+ Member
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
September 29 2017 09:02 GMT
#35
On September 29 2017 17:37 -KG- wrote:
As usual the korean ads makes me want to move there, find a cute korean gf, play sc2 and live happily ever after


Same!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12985 Posts
September 29 2017 09:06 GMT
#36
On September 29 2017 17:34 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote:
So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A

Not a great group for Snute.


I don't think any group is going to be good for any foreigner.

The top 8 koreans are just way better than every foreigner except serral and neeb, and still probably generally better than those two.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 29 2017 09:07 GMT
#37
On September 29 2017 18:06 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 17:34 Diabolique wrote:
On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote:
So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A

Not a great group for Snute.


I don't think any group is going to be good for any foreigner.

The top 8 koreans are just way better than every foreigner except serral and neeb, and still probably generally better than those two.



Serral will choke I guess, the best chance is Elazer.

Neeb can't deal with top kor ( too lazy to check but he lost to jjakji at katowice if I remember well )
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 09:10 GMT
#38
SoO keeps doing +1 hydra/ling into mutas. New build?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
September 29 2017 09:11 GMT
#39
Holy oracles batman!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 09:12 GMT
#40
Mutas into not loss, exciting new strat by soO
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
September 29 2017 09:12 GMT
#41
soOjwa is back!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12985 Posts
September 29 2017 09:13 GMT
#42
If he hadn't lost those oracles he wouldn't have been in that bad a spot, but sacrificing that for basically nothings is a punch in the gut
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
September 29 2017 09:17 GMT
#43
Ok soO T_T
i don't even!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 09:17 GMT
#44
how was that gg? soO was definitely behind but it wasn't over
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
September 29 2017 09:17 GMT
#45
I wish Lurkers were more usable atm.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 29 2017 09:17 GMT
#46
On September 29 2017 18:12 Zzzapper wrote:
Mutas into not loss, exciting new strat by soO

Mutas into delayed loss.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 09:18 GMT
#47
Dark would've teched up and won after the mutas did that much damage. No need to run hydra based armies into storm twice
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28452 Posts
September 29 2017 09:19 GMT
#48
On September 29 2017 18:17 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 18:12 Zzzapper wrote:
Mutas into not loss, exciting new strat by soO

Mutas into delayed loss.

more like lurkers into loss sadly
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
September 29 2017 09:19 GMT
#49
When he lost the muta, he just needed to go roach infestor to back up his hydra army ? Instead he went straight lurker and his hydra just getting ran at

Oh well. Was fun game though, very back and forth
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 09:20 GMT
#50
On September 29 2017 18:19 Pandemona wrote:
When he lost the muta, he just needed to go roach infestor to back up his hydra army ? Instead he went straight lurker and his hydra just getting ran at

Oh well. Was fun game though, very back and forth

infestors are hard countered by pressing F on the high templar
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 09:22:19
September 29 2017 09:22 GMT
#51
CA$H HO$T
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 09:22 GMT
#52
AVILO WAS RIGHT
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 09:23:32
September 29 2017 09:23 GMT
#53
Swarm host nydus???

yes
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28452 Posts
September 29 2017 09:24 GMT
#54
On September 29 2017 18:22 Ej_ wrote:
AVILO WAS RIGHT

was there ever ANY doubt!?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7967 Posts
September 29 2017 09:27 GMT
#55
soo could move so much closer before firing his swarm hosts, they almost expire before arriving every time
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28452 Posts
September 29 2017 09:29 GMT
#56
nice
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 09:31:23
September 29 2017 09:31 GMT
#57
Anyone showing good games yet today? With 3-0 I assume Dark just bopped Bunny?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
September 29 2017 09:31 GMT
#58
On September 29 2017 18:20 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 18:19 Pandemona wrote:
When he lost the muta, he just needed to go roach infestor to back up his hydra army ? Instead he went straight lurker and his hydra just getting ran at

Oh well. Was fun game though, very back and forth

infestors are hard countered by pressing F on the high templar

Haha now now ! But even so, the infestors taking feedback over his army getting stormed is a slight win too? :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 09:33:44
September 29 2017 09:33 GMT
#59
On September 29 2017 18:31 Elentos wrote:
Anyone showing good games yet today? With 3-0 I assume Dark just bopped Bunny?

2 games in a row, ravager queen all-ined. 3rd game 3hatch no pool beats a failed 2 base bio/hellbat all-in

SoO vs Stats has been very good.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 09:34 GMT
#60
Those 2 adepts wut
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 09:36 GMT
#61
The classic Polt void ray hunting down overlords
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 09:36 GMT
#62
he did it again
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 09:38 GMT
#63
Lurkers into win? Lurkers into lose? You choose
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 29 2017 09:38 GMT
#64
Lol, really Stats
TL+ Member
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 09:39 GMT
#65
On September 29 2017 18:38 Elentos wrote:
Lurkers into win? Lurkers into lose? You choose

Lurkers but he's already won
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 09:40 GMT
#66
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 29 2017 09:41 GMT
#67
SoOjwa
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 09:41 GMT
#68
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Well it's been 2 years, so why not?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 09:41 GMT
#69
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Gonna lose to Inno in the finals
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 29 2017 09:41 GMT
#70
Dark should be sweating
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 09:42 GMT
#71
On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Gonna lose to Inno in the finals

Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 09:42 GMT
#72
On September 29 2017 18:41 DieuCure wrote:
Dark should be sweating

His arms are already spaghetti
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 29 2017 09:42 GMT
#73
On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Gonna lose to Inno in the finals

Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.


Well, but Ryung will beat soO anyway
TL+ Member
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 09:44:15
September 29 2017 09:43 GMT
#74
Winner of soO/Dark gets Kelazhur & Elazer, loser gets Nerchio & Neeb
Liquipedia"Expert"
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 09:44 GMT
#75
On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Gonna lose to Inno in the finals

Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.

The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28452 Posts
September 29 2017 09:44 GMT
#76
nice try trevi but you're no tropicana
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 09:44 GMT
#77
On September 29 2017 18:43 Inflicted wrote:
Winner of soO/Dark gets Kelazhur/Elazer, loser gets Nerchio/Neeb

I like how they're just going to actually duel for that spot now.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 09:45:30
September 29 2017 09:45 GMT
#78
If Ryung beat sOs, DK will have balance the game to perfection.
TL+ Member
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
September 29 2017 09:46 GMT
#79
Damn Stats getting caught by the muta switch 2 times in a row while being ahead. Just one round of phoenix would prevent that.

The choice of build in game 5 was weird after its spectacular failure in game 2.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 09:51:03
September 29 2017 09:46 GMT
#80
On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Gonna lose to Inno in the finals

Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.

The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world?

Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world?

e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 29 2017 09:51 GMT
#81
jacket off, you know what it means
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 09:52 GMT
#82
On September 29 2017 18:51 Makro wrote:
jacket off, you know what it means

Time for gaming muscles
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
September 29 2017 09:53 GMT
#83
soOOOOOOOOOOOOO f yeah
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
September 29 2017 09:57 GMT
#84
Nice durnfield by herO
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 10:00 GMT
#85
On September 29 2017 18:46 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Gonna lose to Inno in the finals

Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.

The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world?

Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world?

e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"

Oh you're right, dropping games in a bo7 with long prep time to the guy who's known for having pretty much the best prep ever is a bad thing now

sOs and Zest vT are a lot better than aLive vP in any case
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36955 Posts
September 29 2017 10:04 GMT
#86
lol... herO retreats and Zest GGs...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 10:07 GMT
#87
On September 29 2017 19:00 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 18:46 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Gonna lose to Inno in the finals

Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.

The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world?

Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world?

e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"

Oh you're right, dropping games in a bo7 with long prep time to the guy who's known for having pretty much the best prep ever is a bad thing now

sOs and Zest vT are a lot better than aLive vP in any case

sOs? Best prep ever? He's not made half the GSL finals he needs to live up to that.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
September 29 2017 10:08 GMT
#88
Great snipe by herO!!
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 10:09 GMT
#89
On September 29 2017 19:07 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:00 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:46 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Gonna lose to Inno in the finals

Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.

The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world?

Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world?

e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"

Oh you're right, dropping games in a bo7 with long prep time to the guy who's known for having pretty much the best prep ever is a bad thing now

sOs and Zest vT are a lot better than aLive vP in any case

sOs? Best prep ever? He's not made half the GSL finals he needs to live up to that.


He sure has won a lot of starleagues though.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 10:12 GMT
#90
On September 29 2017 19:07 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:00 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:46 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.

Gonna lose to Inno in the finals

Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.

The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world?

Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world?

e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"

Oh you're right, dropping games in a bo7 with long prep time to the guy who's known for having pretty much the best prep ever is a bad thing now

sOs and Zest vT are a lot better than aLive vP in any case

sOs? Best prep ever? He's not made half the GSL finals he needs to live up to that.

Sorry, my internet argument prep isn't nearly as strong as + Show Spoiler +
sOs' GOAT sc2 prep
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 10:13 GMT
#91
This is top 3 most retarded high level games of the year
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
September 29 2017 10:14 GMT
#92
Zest lol
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
September 29 2017 10:15 GMT
#93
2017 Zest strikes again lol
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 10:16 GMT
#94
Zest is best (on ladder)
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:16 GMT
#95
sOs, if you beat Ryung, your favorite opponent will wait for you in the RO8!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
September 29 2017 10:18 GMT
#96
Zest win phoenix war, but herO win the game!!!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 10:19 GMT
#97
I don't think the oracle pheonix counter will become a normal thing. If the pheonixes were by the stargates at the time then herO would have lost
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 29 2017 10:21 GMT
#98
What's the electronic skateboard and how big cool factor it has?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:23 GMT
#99
On September 29 2017 19:21 deacon.frost wrote:
What's the electronic skateboard and how big cool factor it has?

Its the coolest. Artosis could tell you how cool.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 29 2017 10:25 GMT
#100
On September 29 2017 19:23 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:21 deacon.frost wrote:
What's the electronic skateboard and how big cool factor it has?

Its the coolest. Artosis could tell you how cool.

Still doesn't asnwer what is the thing. Skateboard with ABS, ESP and semi-auto pilot?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
September 29 2017 10:26 GMT
#101
hero is best
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
September 29 2017 10:26 GMT
#102
Zest still a ladder hero
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 10:26 GMT
#103
This game was just hopeless.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:26 GMT
#104
On September 29 2017 19:25 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:23 Diabolique wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:21 deacon.frost wrote:
What's the electronic skateboard and how big cool factor it has?

Its the coolest. Artosis could tell you how cool.

Still doesn't asnwer what is the thing. Skateboard with ABS, ESP and semi-auto pilot?

The one with airbags is the best.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28452 Posts
September 29 2017 10:27 GMT
#105
poor Zest, got full artosis cursed
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:27 GMT
#106
One more reason to want to see sOs progress into the next round.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
September 29 2017 10:28 GMT
#107
3-0. End of the terrible session for Zest. Hope he coming back.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
September 29 2017 10:28 GMT
#108
Tasteless was almost as excited about that fake archon as he was about game 2
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 10:28 GMT
#109
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 10:29 GMT
#110
At least sOs goes to blizzcon now
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 10:32 GMT
#111
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 10:36:51
September 29 2017 10:36 GMT
#112
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 10:39 GMT
#113
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
September 29 2017 10:40 GMT
#114
hey sOs Ryung isn't Zerg
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 10:42 GMT
#115
I'm sure Ryung's scout pattern makes sense, but this is one of those games where you need the player's commentary to understand it.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 10:43 GMT
#116
On September 29 2017 19:40 Durnuu wrote:
hey sOs Ryung isn't Zerg

He wants to give Ryung a chance to win so he placed his buildings in such a way that he can lose to a single tank.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 10:43 GMT
#117
Ryung really is the budget GuMiho.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 10:44 GMT
#118
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 10:45 GMT
#119
On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.

That's literally what happened in game 3.
In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:48 GMT
#120
This is a weird game.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 10:48:32
September 29 2017 10:48 GMT
#121
On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.

That's literally what happened in game 3.
In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest

The very definition of 'outplay'

Zest got fuking rekt, no need to sugarcoat it
Faker is the GOAT!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 10:49 GMT
#122
On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.

That's literally what happened in game 3.
In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest


I said games 1 and 2 specifically.

In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 10:50:57
September 29 2017 10:50 GMT
#123
On September 29 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.

That's literally what happened in game 3.
In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest


I said games 1 and 2 specifically.

In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way.

Was so lucky to plan all of that while Zest absolutely ignored such a possibility, right?

Eh the lucky 3-0 :/. Ro16 really needs bo7
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28452 Posts
September 29 2017 10:53 GMT
#124
does a pylon like that have a name?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 10:54 GMT
#125
On September 29 2017 19:53 Penev wrote:
does a pylon like that have a name?


Artosis referred to it as a Tasteless pylon.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:54 GMT
#126
Weird game.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 10:55 GMT
#127
On September 29 2017 19:54 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:53 Penev wrote:
does a pylon like that have a name?


Artosis referred to it as a Tasteless pylon.

Forgetting that there is on-record historical evidence that Tasteless pylons are never alone.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 10:56:30
September 29 2017 10:56 GMT
#128
On September 29 2017 19:50 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:
On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote:
This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him

He just got outplayed.


Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.

g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.

So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series?
Outplayed.


Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.

That's literally what happened in game 3.
In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest


I said games 1 and 2 specifically.

In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way.

Was so lucky to plan all of that while Zest absolutely ignored such a possibility, right?

Eh the lucky 3-0 :/. Ro16 really needs bo7


Well yeah, going for desperation oracles and DT is a game deciding risk. The results are not repeatable and entirely depend on where the opponents units happen to be and how many obvs they got. Hence it is luck dependant

g3 was Zest making mistakes while herO knew what he was doing. g1 wasn't far off a build order win for herO.

Did I say herO didn't deserve to win? Did I say it should be bo7? No. I just said that g1/2 were very lucky for herO, which they were.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 10:56 GMT
#129
On September 29 2017 19:54 Diabolique wrote:
Weird game.

It was the most standard LotV sOs PvT you'll ever see. 2 base glaive adept all-in, add DTs if it doesn't work, add super late 3rd and lose if that doesn't work.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 10:56 GMT
#130
W O L F G A T E
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 10:59 GMT
#131
These sOs rush strategies :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 10:59 GMT
#132
Wow such gameplay.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 10:59 GMT
#133
P R O T O S S E D
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 11:00:05
September 29 2017 10:59 GMT
#134
This is the saltiest build to lose to
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
slimbo1
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany228 Posts
September 29 2017 11:01 GMT
#135
best protoss build to frustrate your opponent.
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
September 29 2017 11:01 GMT
#136
that's why we hate protoss
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 29 2017 11:01 GMT
#137
On September 29 2017 19:59 Fango wrote:
This is the saltiest build to lose to

You haven't seen my patented proxy void ray in the terran natural
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 29 2017 11:02 GMT
#138
On September 29 2017 20:01 Gurbak wrote:
that's why we hate protoss

We didn;t ask for shooting pylons, I stopped playing for more than a year because of them
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 11:02 GMT
#139
On September 29 2017 20:01 slimbo1 wrote:
best protoss build to frustrate your opponent.

Every Protoss build is the best one for that.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 11:03 GMT
#140
Btw if anyone plays on the test realm, stalkers now one-shot every terran unit/building and rush builds are the worst thing I've ever experienced
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
September 29 2017 11:06 GMT
#141
M E C H A N I C
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 11:06 GMT
#142
Artosis is creaming his pants again
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 11:06 GMT
#143
As I say every time someone mechs vs protoss, sOs has already won
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 11:06 GMT
#144
Ryung so clueless he's actually trying mech.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 11:06 GMT
#145
Mech doesn't even work against zerg ffs
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 29 2017 11:07 GMT
#146
ryung should stick to the basics
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
September 29 2017 11:10 GMT
#147
hellions are not a good counter to immortals
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
September 29 2017 11:10 GMT
#148
proxy upgrades???
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 11:11 GMT
#149
Oh wow mech failed.

I for one am shocked.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 11:12 GMT
#150
Mech LOST?! No way
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28452 Posts
September 29 2017 11:12 GMT
#151
B I O

pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 29 2017 11:12 GMT
#152
I lost it when "oooh, that's so smart" and then sOs turned on the Void Ray xD
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 11:17 GMT
#153
Did the korean the terran community collectively agree to go mech in order to lose and get buffed?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 11:21:33
September 29 2017 11:21 GMT
#154
Ryung and sOs are actually so bad, wtf

Ryung more so than sOs
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 11:24 GMT
#155
Ryung actually took a map. Better than I expected from him tbh.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 11:25 GMT
#156
On September 29 2017 20:21 EatingBomber wrote:
Ryung and sOs are actually so bad, wtf

Ryung more so than sOs


I like to think of sOs as the man who puts in the least amount of effort that's possible to still win with. He always looks bad yet always does so well.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28452 Posts
September 29 2017 11:25 GMT
#157
sOs prepped too much clutchness for Ryung

gg
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 11:26 GMT
#158
BlizzCon Baby!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28452 Posts
September 29 2017 11:28 GMT
#159
ffs

RIP Rogue
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 11:29:34
September 29 2017 11:28 GMT
#160
I agree with artosis that Rogue could win. Classic will beat Inno, and Rogue is a ZvP sniper for life

(also Rogue can beat anyone on the other side of the bracket other than sOs)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 11:29:58
September 29 2017 11:29 GMT
#161
Bottom half of the bracket is basically fighting for Blizzcon seeding

herO should stop winning or he's gonna end up with INno
Liquipedia"Expert"
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 11:31 GMT
#162
Once sOs beats herO, Rogue has no blizzcon chance. Classic will have to win in order to get there, which is unlikely considering he sucks against zergs
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 29 2017 11:32 GMT
#163
innovation is gonna embrace his role as the sole savior of the whole terran race on starcraft 2
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
September 29 2017 11:33 GMT
#164
On September 29 2017 20:31 Fango wrote:
Once sOs beats herO, Rogue has no blizzcon chance. Classic will have to win in order to get there, which is unlikely considering he sucks against zergs

So like in SSL he's going to pray for Dear to do his work for him.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 29 2017 11:37 GMT
#165
If sOs wins Blizzcon i'm deleting my account.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 29 2017 11:39 GMT
#166
On September 29 2017 20:37 Phredxor wrote:
If sOs wins Blizzcon i'm deleting my account.

You're not.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 11:42:06
September 29 2017 11:40 GMT
#167
On September 29 2017 20:33 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 20:31 Fango wrote:
Once sOs beats herO, Rogue has no blizzcon chance. Classic will have to win in order to get there, which is unlikely considering he sucks against zergs

So like in SSL he's going to pray for Dear to do his work for him.


Seeing how Rogue would completely destroy Classic, I'm assuming you mean sOs wants Dear to choke vs Rogue?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 29 2017 12:09 GMT
#168
On September 29 2017 20:40 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 20:33 Elentos wrote:
On September 29 2017 20:31 Fango wrote:
Once sOs beats herO, Rogue has no blizzcon chance. Classic will have to win in order to get there, which is unlikely considering he sucks against zergs

So like in SSL he's going to pray for Dear to do his work for him.


Seeing how Rogue would completely destroy Classic, I'm assuming you mean sOs wants Dear to choke vs Rogue?


No need to choke for Dear, Rogue will destroy him anyway

INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 29 2017 12:58 GMT
#169
Rogue vs. Innovation will be a great semifinal. Too bad for Rogue that sOs will of course beat herO.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
September 29 2017 13:20 GMT
#170
On September 29 2017 21:58 Diabolique wrote:
Rogue vs. CLASSIC will be a great semifinal. Too bad for Rogue that sOs will of course beat herO.

Fixed it for you
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15878 Posts
September 29 2017 13:42 GMT
#171
Inno the only terran in the ro8.
Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP.
He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
September 29 2017 14:08 GMT
#172
I'd say all these matches went as expected. The only two evenly matched opponents were soO and Stats and that went to five games. Every other match-up had a clear favorite.
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
September 29 2017 14:34 GMT
#173
On September 29 2017 23:08 ReMinD_ wrote:
I'd say all these matches went as expected. The only two evenly matched opponents were soO and Stats and that went to five games. Every other match-up had a clear favorite.


Do you really think that Dear is favor against Gumiho ?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13967 Posts
September 29 2017 14:38 GMT
#174
On September 29 2017 22:20 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 21:58 Diabolique wrote:
Rogue vs. CLASSIC will be a great semifinal. Too bad for Rogue that sOs will of course beat herO.

Fixed it for you

Agreed. I really needed soO not to win...fucked up my liquibets
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 14:43 GMT
#175
On September 29 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Inno the only terran in the ro8.
Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP.
He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed.


He got put against a foreigner, basically autoseeded into the ro8 anyway

Watch him play mech vs Classic and lose
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
September 29 2017 15:04 GMT
#176
On September 29 2017 23:43 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Inno the only terran in the ro8.
Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP.
He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed.


He got put against a foreigner, basically autoseeded into the ro8 anyway

Watch him play mech vs Classic and lose

Wouldn't it be hilarious if he actually did play mech but won?
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1804 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 16:14:05
September 29 2017 16:13 GMT
#177
On September 30 2017 00:04 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 23:43 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Inno the only terran in the ro8.
Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP.
He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed.


He got put against a foreigner, basically autoseeded into the ro8 anyway

Watch him play mech vs Classic and lose

Wouldn't it be hilarious if he actually did play mech but won?


Classic has lost to mech in a televised match before.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3342 Posts
September 29 2017 16:19 GMT
#178
On September 30 2017 01:13 mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 00:04 Sakat wrote:
On September 29 2017 23:43 Fango wrote:
On September 29 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Inno the only terran in the ro8.
Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP.
He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed.


He got put against a foreigner, basically autoseeded into the ro8 anyway

Watch him play mech vs Classic and lose

Wouldn't it be hilarious if he actually did play mech but won?


Classic has lost to mech in a televised match before.


And it was a glorious display of bbyong's random strategies and the opponent making bad decisions repeatedly. I loved that game!
Horang2 fan
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12985 Posts
September 29 2017 16:49 GMT
#179
I think Sea beat Naniwa in a tournament match as well.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 16:54:02
September 29 2017 16:53 GMT
#180
Was the last time Inno mech'd vs toss the proleague playoffs last year? Because that was the best thing I've ever seen (as a KT fan)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 29 2017 17:40 GMT
#181
On September 30 2017 01:53 Fango wrote:
Was the last time Inno mech'd vs toss the proleague playoffs last year? Because that was the best thing I've ever seen (as a KT fan)

Speaking of Telecom Wars, ex-SKT is here in full force but ex-KT dropped out in the first round. 50% of the Ro8 vs 0%.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2017 18:24 GMT
#182
On September 30 2017 02:40 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 01:53 Fango wrote:
Was the last time Inno mech'd vs toss the proleague playoffs last year? Because that was the best thing I've ever seen (as a KT fan)

Speaking of Telecom Wars, ex-SKT is here in full force but ex-KT dropped out in the first round. 50% of the Ro8 vs 0%.


That's because Inno wasn't trying to mech against KToss this time
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 29 2017 18:37 GMT
#183
On September 30 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 02:40 pvsnp wrote:
On September 30 2017 01:53 Fango wrote:
Was the last time Inno mech'd vs toss the proleague playoffs last year? Because that was the best thing I've ever seen (as a KT fan)

Speaking of Telecom Wars, ex-SKT is here in full force but ex-KT dropped out in the first round. 50% of the Ro8 vs 0%.


That's because Inno wasn't trying to mech against KToss this time

This time, soO took care of the KToss.
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