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Poll: Dark vs BunnyDark Wins (16) 89% Bunny Wins (2) 11% 18 total votes Your vote: Dark vs Bunny (Vote): Dark Wins (Vote): Bunny Wins
Poll: soO vs StatssoO Wins (10) 53% Stats Wins (9) 47% 19 total votes Your vote: soO vs Stats (Vote): soO Wins (Vote): Stats Wins
Poll: Zest vs herOZest Wins (9) 56% herO Wins (7) 44% 16 total votes Your vote: Zest vs herO (Vote): Zest Wins (Vote): herO Wins
Poll: Ryung vs sOssOs Wins (17) 89% Ryung Wins (2) 11% 19 total votes Your vote: Ryung vs sOs (Vote): Ryung Wins (Vote): sOs Wins
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Dark has insane ZvT and sOs is such a baller, so sad to probably see only one Terran in the ro8
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This is the correct hype!
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Bunny can save us of a PvZvPvZvPvP bracket
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There is actually a good chance of the ro4 being PvPvPvP
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Artosis should use the TL sOs meme ... #NOTINTHISLIFETIME
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Bunny is underrated but Dark is the best ZvT
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On September 29 2017 17:13 Fango wrote: Bunny is underrated but Dark is the best ZvT
But it's Bunny soooo ...
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Is the idea behind the expension first on the third to make him believe that he went pool first?
edit : well, yeah. Just confirmed while typing. ^^
That was neat.
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I like this build by Bunny.
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RIP terran in this tournament
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So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A
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On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote: So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A Not a great group for Snute.
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On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote: So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A
Special and Snute have a small chance. Most likely RIP though
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As usual the korean ads makes me want to move there, find a cute korean gf, play sc2 and live happily ever after
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On September 29 2017 17:34 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote: So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A Not a great group for Snute.
All the group are really bad for foreigner I have to say.
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On September 29 2017 17:30 Fango wrote: RIP terran in this tournament
Terran are OP af atm
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On September 29 2017 17:39 Mun_Su wrote:Terran are OP af atm
I mean, making WM useless is totally justified, INno can win some match atm ...
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Good guy Stats the only one not to make mass oracle.
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Mutalisk into a loss, a classic.
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On September 29 2017 17:45 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 17:39 Mun_Su wrote:On September 29 2017 17:30 Fango wrote: RIP terran in this tournament Terran are OP af atm I mean, making WM useless is totally justified, INno can win some match atm ... That's one of the changes I like. At least for early game the mine is really strong, I would be able to agree to give T an upgrade to make it the old way later. Similar changes would be awesome for more units(e.g. Oracle & Liberator)
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On September 29 2017 17:52 Ej_ wrote: Mutalisk into a loss, a classic. A soO classic, to be precise.
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On September 29 2017 17:52 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 17:45 DieuCure wrote:On September 29 2017 17:39 Mun_Su wrote:On September 29 2017 17:30 Fango wrote: RIP terran in this tournament Terran are OP af atm I mean, making WM useless is totally justified, INno can win some match atm ... That's one of the changes I like. At least for early game the mine is really strong, I would be able to agree to give T an upgrade to make it the old way later. Similar changes would be awesome for more units(e.g. Oracle & Liberator)
TBH making them more visible (but still detection needed for firing at them) would have been good.
Also INno won 3 major tournaments in a couple months, so Terran must be heavily favored
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Would be very impresed with Stats if he won this game now.
e: as I say that
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We will not be able to damage the economy with facto and starport units anymore.
Due to the multiple libe's nerf, queens up(lol), spore buff, wm nerf during lotv and they wonder why zerg eco is so strong nowadays...
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On September 29 2017 17:37 -KG- wrote: As usual the korean ads makes me want to move there, find a cute korean gf, play sc2 and live happily ever after
Same!
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On September 29 2017 17:34 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote: So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A Not a great group for Snute.
I don't think any group is going to be good for any foreigner.
The top 8 koreans are just way better than every foreigner except serral and neeb, and still probably generally better than those two.
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On September 29 2017 18:06 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 17:34 Diabolique wrote:On September 29 2017 17:33 Inflicted wrote: So that locks TY into 5th and Stats/SpeCial/TY/Snute for Group A Not a great group for Snute. I don't think any group is going to be good for any foreigner. The top 8 koreans are just way better than every foreigner except serral and neeb, and still probably generally better than those two.
Serral will choke I guess, the best chance is Elazer.
Neeb can't deal with top kor ( too lazy to check but he lost to jjakji at katowice if I remember well )
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SoO keeps doing +1 hydra/ling into mutas. New build?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
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Mutas into not loss, exciting new strat by soO
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
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If he hadn't lost those oracles he wouldn't have been in that bad a spot, but sacrificing that for basically nothings is a punch in the gut
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
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how was that gg? soO was definitely behind but it wasn't over
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I wish Lurkers were more usable atm.
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On September 29 2017 18:12 Zzzapper wrote: Mutas into not loss, exciting new strat by soO Mutas into delayed loss.
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Dark would've teched up and won after the mutas did that much damage. No need to run hydra based armies into storm twice
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On September 29 2017 18:17 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 18:12 Zzzapper wrote: Mutas into not loss, exciting new strat by soO Mutas into delayed loss. more like lurkers into loss sadly
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On September 29 2017 18:19 Pandemona wrote:When he lost the muta, he just needed to go roach infestor to back up his hydra army ? Instead he went straight lurker and his hydra just getting ran at Oh well. Was fun game though, very back and forth infestors are hard countered by pressing F on the high templar
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On September 29 2017 18:22 Ej_ wrote: AVILO WAS RIGHT was there ever ANY doubt!?
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soo could move so much closer before firing his swarm hosts, they almost expire before arriving every time
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Anyone showing good games yet today? With 3-0 I assume Dark just bopped Bunny?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
On September 29 2017 18:20 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 18:19 Pandemona wrote:When he lost the muta, he just needed to go roach infestor to back up his hydra army ? Instead he went straight lurker and his hydra just getting ran at Oh well. Was fun game though, very back and forth infestors are hard countered by pressing F on the high templar Haha now now ! But even so, the infestors taking feedback over his army getting stormed is a slight win too? :D
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On September 29 2017 18:31 Elentos wrote: Anyone showing good games yet today? With 3-0 I assume Dark just bopped Bunny? 2 games in a row, ravager queen all-ined. 3rd game 3hatch no pool beats a failed 2 base bio/hellbat all-in
SoO vs Stats has been very good.
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The classic Polt void ray hunting down overlords
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Lurkers into win? Lurkers into lose? You choose
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On September 29 2017 18:38 Elentos wrote: Lurkers into win? Lurkers into lose? You choose Lurkers but he's already won
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SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong.
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On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Well it's been 2 years, so why not?
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On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Gonna lose to Inno in the finals
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On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Gonna lose to Inno in the finals Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.
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On September 29 2017 18:41 DieuCure wrote: Dark should be sweating His arms are already spaghetti
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On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Gonna lose to Inno in the finals Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp.
Well, but Ryung will beat soO anyway
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Australia18228 Posts
Winner of soO/Dark gets Kelazhur & Elazer, loser gets Nerchio & Neeb
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On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Gonna lose to Inno in the finals Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp. The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world?
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nice try trevi but you're no tropicana
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On September 29 2017 18:43 Inflicted wrote: Winner of soO/Dark gets Kelazhur/Elazer, loser gets Nerchio/Neeb I like how they're just going to actually duel for that spot now.
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If Ryung beat sOs, DK will have balance the game to perfection. 
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Damn Stats getting caught by the muta switch 2 times in a row while being ahead. Just one round of phoenix would prevent that.
The choice of build in game 5 was weird after its spectacular failure in game 2.
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On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Gonna lose to Inno in the finals Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp. The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world? Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world?
e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"
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jacket off, you know what it means
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On September 29 2017 18:51 Makro wrote: jacket off, you know what it means Time for gaming muscles
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On September 29 2017 18:46 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Gonna lose to Inno in the finals Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp. The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world? Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world? e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"  Oh you're right, dropping games in a bo7 with long prep time to the guy who's known for having pretty much the best prep ever is a bad thing now 
sOs and Zest vT are a lot better than aLive vP in any case
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Where dat snitch at?36955 Posts
lol... herO retreats and Zest GGs...
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On September 29 2017 19:00 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 18:46 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Gonna lose to Inno in the finals Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp. The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world? Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world? e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"  Oh you're right, dropping games in a bo7 with long prep time to the guy who's known for having pretty much the best prep ever is a bad thing now  sOs and Zest vT are a lot better than aLive vP in any case sOs? Best prep ever? He's not made half the GSL finals he needs to live up to that.
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On September 29 2017 19:07 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:00 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:46 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Gonna lose to Inno in the finals Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp. The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world? Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world? e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"  Oh you're right, dropping games in a bo7 with long prep time to the guy who's known for having pretty much the best prep ever is a bad thing now  sOs and Zest vT are a lot better than aLive vP in any case sOs? Best prep ever? He's not made half the GSL finals he needs to live up to that.
He sure has won a lot of starleagues though.
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On September 29 2017 19:07 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:00 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:46 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 18:44 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:42 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 18:41 Zzzapper wrote:On September 29 2017 18:40 Ej_ wrote: SoO going to win Super Tournament like a true kong. Gonna lose to Inno in the finals Classic will beat INnoVation into a pulp. The guy who just barely beat a tier 3 terran beats the second best TvP player in the world? Is the guy who barely beats Zest and sOs the second best TvP player in the world? e: nvm, Zest is actually "the best ladder protoss"  Oh you're right, dropping games in a bo7 with long prep time to the guy who's known for having pretty much the best prep ever is a bad thing now  sOs and Zest vT are a lot better than aLive vP in any case sOs? Best prep ever? He's not made half the GSL finals he needs to live up to that. Sorry, my internet argument prep isn't nearly as strong as + Show Spoiler +
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This is top 3 most retarded high level games of the year
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2017 Zest strikes again lol
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sOs, if you beat Ryung, your favorite opponent will wait for you in the RO8!
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Zest win phoenix war, but herO win the game!!!
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I don't think the oracle pheonix counter will become a normal thing. If the pheonixes were by the stargates at the time then herO would have lost
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What's the electronic skateboard and how big cool factor it has?
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On September 29 2017 19:21 deacon.frost wrote: What's the electronic skateboard and how big cool factor it has? Its the coolest. Artosis could tell you how cool.
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On September 29 2017 19:23 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:21 deacon.frost wrote: What's the electronic skateboard and how big cool factor it has? Its the coolest. Artosis could tell you how cool. Still doesn't asnwer what is the thing. Skateboard with ABS, ESP and semi-auto pilot?
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This game was just hopeless.
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On September 29 2017 19:25 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:23 Diabolique wrote:On September 29 2017 19:21 deacon.frost wrote: What's the electronic skateboard and how big cool factor it has? Its the coolest. Artosis could tell you how cool. Still doesn't asnwer what is the thing. Skateboard with ABS, ESP and semi-auto pilot? The one with airbags is the best.
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poor Zest, got full artosis cursed
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One more reason to want to see sOs progress into the next round.
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3-0. End of the terrible session for Zest. Hope he coming back.
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Tasteless was almost as excited about that fake archon as he was about game 2
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This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him
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At least sOs goes to blizzcon now
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On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed.
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On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed.
Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base.
g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous.
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On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed.
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I'm sure Ryung's scout pattern makes sense, but this is one of those games where you need the player's commentary to understand it.
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On September 29 2017 19:40 Durnuu wrote: hey sOs Ryung isn't Zerg He wants to give Ryung a chance to win so he placed his buildings in such a way that he can lose to a single tank.
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Ryung really is the budget GuMiho.
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On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed.
Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side.
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On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed. Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side. That's literally what happened in game 3. In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest
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On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed. Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side. That's literally what happened in game 3. In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest  The very definition of 'outplay'
Zest got fuking rekt, no need to sugarcoat it
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On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed. Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side. That's literally what happened in game 3. In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest 
I said games 1 and 2 specifically.
In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way.
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On September 29 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed. Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side. That's literally what happened in game 3. In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest  I said games 1 and 2 specifically. In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way. Was so lucky to plan all of that while Zest absolutely ignored such a possibility, right?
Eh the lucky 3-0 :/. Ro16 really needs bo7
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does a pylon like that have a name?
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On September 29 2017 19:53 Penev wrote: does a pylon like that have a name?
Artosis referred to it as a Tasteless pylon.
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On September 29 2017 19:54 Phredxor wrote:Artosis referred to it as a Tasteless pylon. Forgetting that there is on-record historical evidence that Tasteless pylons are never alone.
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On September 29 2017 19:50 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 19:49 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:45 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:44 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:39 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:36 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 19:32 Ej_ wrote:On September 29 2017 19:28 Fango wrote: This is just sad because in games 1 and 2 Zest didn't even play badly. g1 was a poor build choice, and g2 was an unrepeatable comeback from herO. g3 he just didn't know what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 archons before an attack killed him He just got outplayed. Games 1 and 2 he didn't really make any major gameplay mistakes. g1 he used a very risky strat that didn't pay off because herO had the counter, in g2 herO used a very risky strat that paid off because Zest didn't have the counter in his base. g3 was just Zest being clueless as to what herO was doing. Taking a 4th and sending out 2 immortals against an all in attack is ridiculous. So Zest made the wrong decisions all 3 games in a row while herO played an extremely clean series? Outplayed. Saying "he just got outplayed" gives the wrong impression. You make it sound like they did the same thing and herO just played better. herO got fairly lucky in games 1 and 2, they were both game deciding risks by each side. That's literally what happened in game 3. In game 2 herO was in a worse position and still beat Zest  I said games 1 and 2 specifically. In g2 herO was playing worse and got drastically behind, then went for double oracle and DTs, hoping that Zest's pheonixes would miss his oracles and that Zest didn't have detection. That's called a lucky comeback, it's a big risk, and the results are not repeatable in any way. Was so lucky to plan all of that while Zest absolutely ignored such a possibility, right? Eh the lucky 3-0 :/. Ro16 really needs bo7
Well yeah, going for desperation oracles and DT is a game deciding risk. The results are not repeatable and entirely depend on where the opponents units happen to be and how many obvs they got. Hence it is luck dependant
g3 was Zest making mistakes while herO knew what he was doing. g1 wasn't far off a build order win for herO.
Did I say herO didn't deserve to win? Did I say it should be bo7? No. I just said that g1/2 were very lucky for herO, which they were.
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On September 29 2017 19:54 Diabolique wrote: Weird game. It was the most standard LotV sOs PvT you'll ever see. 2 base glaive adept all-in, add DTs if it doesn't work, add super late 3rd and lose if that doesn't work.
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These sOs rush strategies :-)
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This is the saltiest build to lose to
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best protoss build to frustrate your opponent.
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that's why we hate protoss
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On September 29 2017 19:59 Fango wrote: This is the saltiest build to lose to You haven't seen my patented proxy void ray in the terran natural
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On September 29 2017 20:01 Gurbak wrote: that's why we hate protoss We didn;t ask for shooting pylons, I stopped playing for more than a year because of them
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On September 29 2017 20:01 slimbo1 wrote: best protoss build to frustrate your opponent. Every Protoss build is the best one for that.
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Btw if anyone plays on the test realm, stalkers now one-shot every terran unit/building and rush builds are the worst thing I've ever experienced
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Artosis is creaming his pants again
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As I say every time someone mechs vs protoss, sOs has already won
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Ryung so clueless he's actually trying mech.
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Mech doesn't even work against zerg ffs
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ryung should stick to the basics
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hellions are not a good counter to immortals
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Oh wow mech failed.
I for one am shocked.
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I lost it when "oooh, that's so smart" and then sOs turned on the Void Ray xD
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Did the korean the terran community collectively agree to go mech in order to lose and get buffed?
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Ryung and sOs are actually so bad, wtf
Ryung more so than sOs
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Ryung actually took a map. Better than I expected from him tbh.
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On September 29 2017 20:21 EatingBomber wrote: Ryung and sOs are actually so bad, wtf
Ryung more so than sOs
I like to think of sOs as the man who puts in the least amount of effort that's possible to still win with. He always looks bad yet always does so well.
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sOs prepped too much clutchness for Ryung
gg
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I agree with artosis that Rogue could win. Classic will beat Inno, and Rogue is a ZvP sniper for life
(also Rogue can beat anyone on the other side of the bracket other than sOs)
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Bottom half of the bracket is basically fighting for Blizzcon seeding
herO should stop winning or he's gonna end up with INno
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Once sOs beats herO, Rogue has no blizzcon chance. Classic will have to win in order to get there, which is unlikely considering he sucks against zergs
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innovation is gonna embrace his role as the sole savior of the whole terran race on starcraft 2
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On September 29 2017 20:31 Fango wrote: Once sOs beats herO, Rogue has no blizzcon chance. Classic will have to win in order to get there, which is unlikely considering he sucks against zergs So like in SSL he's going to pray for Dear to do his work for him.
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If sOs wins Blizzcon i'm deleting my account.
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On September 29 2017 20:37 Phredxor wrote: If sOs wins Blizzcon i'm deleting my account. You're not.
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On September 29 2017 20:33 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 20:31 Fango wrote: Once sOs beats herO, Rogue has no blizzcon chance. Classic will have to win in order to get there, which is unlikely considering he sucks against zergs So like in SSL he's going to pray for Dear to do his work for him.
Seeing how Rogue would completely destroy Classic, I'm assuming you mean sOs wants Dear to choke vs Rogue?
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On September 29 2017 20:40 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 20:33 Elentos wrote:On September 29 2017 20:31 Fango wrote: Once sOs beats herO, Rogue has no blizzcon chance. Classic will have to win in order to get there, which is unlikely considering he sucks against zergs So like in SSL he's going to pray for Dear to do his work for him. Seeing how Rogue would completely destroy Classic, I'm assuming you mean sOs wants Dear to choke vs Rogue?
No need to choke for Dear, Rogue will destroy him anyway
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Rogue vs. Innovation will be a great semifinal. Too bad for Rogue that sOs will of course beat herO.
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On September 29 2017 21:58 Diabolique wrote: Rogue vs. CLASSIC will be a great semifinal. Too bad for Rogue that sOs will of course beat herO. Fixed it for you
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Inno the only terran in the ro8. Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP. He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed.
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I'd say all these matches went as expected. The only two evenly matched opponents were soO and Stats and that went to five games. Every other match-up had a clear favorite.
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On September 29 2017 23:08 ReMinD_ wrote: I'd say all these matches went as expected. The only two evenly matched opponents were soO and Stats and that went to five games. Every other match-up had a clear favorite.
Do you really think that Dear is favor against Gumiho ?
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On September 29 2017 22:20 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 21:58 Diabolique wrote: Rogue vs. CLASSIC will be a great semifinal. Too bad for Rogue that sOs will of course beat herO. Fixed it for you Agreed. I really needed soO not to win...fucked up my liquibets
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On September 29 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote: Inno the only terran in the ro8. Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP. He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed.
He got put against a foreigner, basically autoseeded into the ro8 anyway
Watch him play mech vs Classic and lose
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On September 29 2017 23:43 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote: Inno the only terran in the ro8. Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP. He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed. He got put against a foreigner, basically autoseeded into the ro8 anyway Watch him play mech vs Classic and lose Wouldn't it be hilarious if he actually did play mech but won?
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On September 30 2017 00:04 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2017 23:43 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote: Inno the only terran in the ro8. Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP. He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed. He got put against a foreigner, basically autoseeded into the ro8 anyway Watch him play mech vs Classic and lose Wouldn't it be hilarious if he actually did play mech but won?
Classic has lost to mech in a televised match before.
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On September 30 2017 01:13 mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2017 00:04 Sakat wrote:On September 29 2017 23:43 Fango wrote:On September 29 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote: Inno the only terran in the ro8. Typical patchterran. Only wins when terran is OP. He will disappear the second terran gets nerfed. He got put against a foreigner, basically autoseeded into the ro8 anyway Watch him play mech vs Classic and lose Wouldn't it be hilarious if he actually did play mech but won? Classic has lost to mech in a televised match before.
And it was a glorious display of bbyong's random strategies and the opponent making bad decisions repeatedly. I loved that game!
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I think Sea beat Naniwa in a tournament match as well.
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Was the last time Inno mech'd vs toss the proleague playoffs last year? Because that was the best thing I've ever seen (as a KT fan)
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On September 30 2017 01:53 Fango wrote: Was the last time Inno mech'd vs toss the proleague playoffs last year? Because that was the best thing I've ever seen (as a KT fan) Speaking of Telecom Wars, ex-SKT is here in full force but ex-KT dropped out in the first round. 50% of the Ro8 vs 0%.
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On September 30 2017 02:40 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2017 01:53 Fango wrote: Was the last time Inno mech'd vs toss the proleague playoffs last year? Because that was the best thing I've ever seen (as a KT fan) Speaking of Telecom Wars, ex-SKT is here in full force but ex-KT dropped out in the first round. 50% of the Ro8 vs 0%.
That's because Inno wasn't trying to mech against KToss this time
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On September 30 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2017 02:40 pvsnp wrote:On September 30 2017 01:53 Fango wrote: Was the last time Inno mech'd vs toss the proleague playoffs last year? Because that was the best thing I've ever seen (as a KT fan) Speaking of Telecom Wars, ex-SKT is here in full force but ex-KT dropped out in the first round. 50% of the Ro8 vs 0%. That's because Inno wasn't trying to mech against KToss this time This time, soO took care of the KToss.
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