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[IEM XII] Shanghai 2017 - Championship Sunday - Page 24
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Yiome
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highsis
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Cricketer12
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Waxangel
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Heartland
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Cricketer12
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On July 30 2017 14:53 Waxangel wrote: herO conserving his energy with the fast GG? might as well, that was such a fucking checkmate play for rogue | ||
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Mun_Su
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Waxangel
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Heartland
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On July 30 2017 14:55 Waxangel wrote: LOL I guess someone went out and made the fan with the 'overly passionate' sign cut off the offensive parts #Waxleaks | ||
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Cricketer12
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On July 30 2017 14:54 Heartland wrote: How were the previous games? game 1 was hero putting on his best neeb impression game 2 was kill all the workers, and pray | ||
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Heartland
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On July 30 2017 14:57 Cricketer12 wrote: game 1 was hero putting on his best neeb impression game 2 was kill all the workers, and pray Ah, sorry, I meant the previous series. | ||
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SpaWnvERtiGO
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1. I KNEW Rogue would beat Byun, and I KNEW he would shut down the reapers. Y'all really need to analyze that build more, and stop the whining. It is NOT unbeatable, like just stop with that. Please.... 2. I really felt these Zergs keep losing to it, cause they think they have a God given right to drone to 70, tech to ultras, and win. And they think it's the ONLY way they can play the game, and if you play another way, you are bad. Kinda like how Protoss KEEP losing to horrible Hydra -Ling-Bane, cause they are stuck in an adept -immortal mind fuck. It's like they forgot Collosi kill every Zerg ground unit. It's why Broodlord Infestor became the go to comp, it's why they NERFED COLLSI IN LOTV to begin with. It was a breath of fresh air when Hurricane smashed with them in GSL, I'm like " FINNALLY!!!!!" 3. This is a theory of mine, but I think mass ladder > practice partners. Rogue is rank 1 GM, meaning he's just grinding game after game. I think you see a much greater variety of builds and gameplay when you practice like that. Reminds me of Byun when he was going to the top of the ladder at will, it seems like he was a better player when he had nothing to lose, and just played EVERY game in sight with no regard. Edit: Neeb as well, when he was rank 1 Korea, and he won Kespa during this same time period.... I suspect this is why Rogues current form is so strong... Think about it..... If you spend all your time practicing TvZ vs say, a TY, who is great at being defensive, late game, and multi-tasking, what happens when you play an Ultra aggressive player like a Byun? What happens if you practice with a Byun, then you get a Macro monster like an Innovation? That to me is bad practice regiments..... It's like when Scarlett thought she could beat any Terran cause she practices with Byun, or beats an Innovation or Maru on ladder, then loses to an aLive, it's the practice I feel..... | ||
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Cricketer12
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Cricketer12
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oh...i dunno, when I tuned in rogue was being interviewed for eliminating trash | ||
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romson87
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Durnuu
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On July 30 2017 15:02 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote: Few thoughts here... 1. I KNEW Rogue would beat Byun, and I KNEW he would shut down the reapers. Y'all really need to analyze that build more, and stop the whining. It is NOT unbeatable, like just stop with that. Please.... 2. I really felt these Zergs keep losing to it, cause they think they have a God given right to drone to 70, tech to ultras, and win. And they think it's the ONLY way they can play the game, and if you play another way, you are bad. Kinda like how Protoss KEEP losing to horrible Hydra -Ling-Bane, cause they are stuck in an adept -immortal mind fuck. It's like they forgot Collosi kill every Zerg ground unit. It's why Broodlord Infestor became the go to comp, it's why they NERFED COLLSI IN LOTV to begin with. It was a breath of fresh air when Hurricane smashed with them in GSL, I'm like " FINNALLY!!!!!" 3. This is a theory of mine, but I think mass ladder > practice partners. Rogue is rank 1 GM, meaning he's just grinding game after game. I think you see a much greater variety of builds and gameplay when you practice like that. 4. Think about it..... If you spend all your time practicing TvZ vs say, a TY, who is great at being defensive, late game, and multi-tasking, what happens when you play an Ultra aggressive player like a Byun? What happens if you practice with a Byun, then you get a Macro monster like an Innovation? 1. Nobody complained about it being unbeatable (or they were dumb), however people complained about the fact that even if it fails, terran is at worst even with Zerg. 2. Colossi are really not that good vs ling bane hydra. they cost a lot of gas and yet you still need sentries. Not to mention splitting your army in half, if the zerg decides to attack your 3rd and 4th at the same time, is a freaking nightmare to do efficiently unless you're maxed (you're likely to lose on both fronts). On the other hand, you only need a couple templars at a base to delay an attack. 3. Practice partners > ladder, otherwise people wouldn't have complained time and time again about the korean infrastructure giving an advantage to the koreans coming in NA/EU. 4. What makes you think people always do the same things in practice ? | ||
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starkiller123
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