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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 08 2017 05:29 GMT
#201
Terran's bag of tricks knows no limits. Been like this since 2010. Meanwhile Zerg has no way to punish a Terran who is ultra aggressive because Zerg can't get up a ramp until Ravagers.

User was temp banned for this post.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10098 Posts
July 08 2017 05:29 GMT
#202
after scouting the 3rd cc i thought she was going to do the nydus roach all in. i think that would have been better T.T
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
July 08 2017 05:29 GMT
#203
On July 08 2017 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:27 Solar424 wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:26 Ej_ wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:25 Solar424 wrote:
LOL Terran. Fail the cheese and still win.

he didn't fail, cut the whining

2 rax killing only 3 workers is failing? That build is meant to kill or cripple the economy, and it did next to nothing.


The drones did nothing while they were picnicking on the map, nor did the dozen lings that followed up.


The 2 rax was held pretty well by scarlett, she was ahead after that
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 08 2017 05:30 GMT
#204
Goddamnit... how do manage to have no spores or overseers?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 08 2017 05:30 GMT
#205
On July 08 2017 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:27 Solar424 wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:26 Ej_ wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:25 Solar424 wrote:
LOL Terran. Fail the cheese and still win.

he didn't fail, cut the whining

2 rax killing only 3 workers is failing? That build is meant to kill or cripple the economy, and it did next to nothing.


The drones did nothing while they were picnicking on the map, nor did the dozen lings that followed up.

The drones prevented her from losing the game outright, and the lings could do nothing because Terran can wall off their main.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 08 2017 05:30 GMT
#206
On July 08 2017 14:29 Solar424 wrote:
Terran's bag of tricks knows no limits. Been like this since 2010. Meanwhile Zerg has no way to punish a Terran who is ultra aggressive because Zerg can't get up a ramp until Ravagers.

Dude, Scarlett fucked up. Stop making this into a balance thing. Even if the rush did nothing her not reacting to the banshee was the game right there for Inno
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 08 2017 05:30 GMT
#207
On July 08 2017 14:29 Solar424 wrote:
Terran's bag of tricks knows no limits. Been like this since 2010. Meanwhile Zerg has no way to punish a Terran who is ultra aggressive because Zerg can't get up a ramp until Ravagers.

Go and rewatch the game on Newkirk, then watch the two games in VSL where Inno did the same proxy 2rax. It's not the same old WoL proxy 2rax, the point is to get an eco lead while he transitions, not to win outright.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 08 2017 05:31 GMT
#208
On July 08 2017 14:28 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:25 Solar424 wrote:
LOL Terran. Fail the cheese and still win.

She pulled more of her drones and lost some but ya it was totally terran :/

If she didn't pull drones she can't kill the marines, which then snowball and kill everything.


You don't need to chase that far though. The marines start losing equity as soon as the initial push fails.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-08 05:34:48
July 08 2017 05:31 GMT
#209
On July 08 2017 14:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:29 Solar424 wrote:
Terran's bag of tricks knows no limits. Been like this since 2010. Meanwhile Zerg has no way to punish a Terran who is ultra aggressive because Zerg can't get up a ramp until Ravagers.

Dude, Scarlett fucked up. Stop making this into a balance thing. Even if the rush did nothing her not reacting to the banshee was the game right there for Inno

They were even before the banshees even showed up, they were just the nail in the coffin. Zerg's economy is so unstable because of 3 larva that any damage snowballs exponentially.
I'd just appreciate if Zerg had any sort of way to deal early-game damage without being completely all-in, because it seems that Terran and Protoss can deal next to no damage and come out even.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
July 08 2017 05:32 GMT
#210
Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-08 05:33:14
July 08 2017 05:32 GMT
#211
On July 08 2017 14:29 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:27 Solar424 wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:26 Ej_ wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:25 Solar424 wrote:
LOL Terran. Fail the cheese and still win.

he didn't fail, cut the whining

2 rax killing only 3 workers is failing? That build is meant to kill or cripple the economy, and it did next to nothing.


The drones did nothing while they were picnicking on the map, nor did the dozen lings that followed up.


The 2 rax was held pretty well by scarlett, she was ahead after that


Nah they were even at best after the extra lings couldn't do anything.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 08 2017 05:33 GMT
#212
On July 08 2017 14:32 Durnuu wrote:
Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.

maybe just nerf innovation so foreigners can take whole 2 maps off the best player in the world
Break his wrists or something.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 08 2017 05:34 GMT
#213
On July 08 2017 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:28 Solar424 wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:25 Solar424 wrote:
LOL Terran. Fail the cheese and still win.

She pulled more of her drones and lost some but ya it was totally terran :/

If she didn't pull drones she can't kill the marines, which then snowball and kill everything.


You don't need to chase that far though. The marines start losing equity as soon as the initial push fails.

You don't need to but all the Zergs think it is an oldschool proxy 2rax allin so they think once they scout it they just kill the marines and insta-win.

That's the beauty behind the new strat, it's a greedy opener disguised as cheese.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 08 2017 05:34 GMT
#214
Hopefully for my liquibets hurricane wins the rematch with ryung but he played so poorly the first time I'm not counting on it
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 08 2017 05:36 GMT
#215
12th code s for Inno? That means he will have won 1/4 of all the GSLs he participated in. Not bad.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
July 08 2017 05:36 GMT
#216
On July 08 2017 14:34 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:28 Solar424 wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:25 Solar424 wrote:
LOL Terran. Fail the cheese and still win.

She pulled more of her drones and lost some but ya it was totally terran :/

If she didn't pull drones she can't kill the marines, which then snowball and kill everything.


You don't need to chase that far though. The marines start losing equity as soon as the initial push fails.

You don't need to but all the Zergs think it is an oldschool proxy 2rax allin so they think once they scout it they just kill the marines and insta-win.

That's the beauty behind the new strat, it's a greedy opener disguised as cheese.


But what stops the terran to keep making marines and attack?

Is a cheese but with lotv eco terran and toss dot fall so behind vs Z when cheeses fails
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 08 2017 05:36 GMT
#217
On July 08 2017 14:33 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:32 Durnuu wrote:
Clearly we need to increase bunker build time.

maybe just nerf innovation so foreigners can take whole 2 maps off the best player in the world
Break his wrists or something.


At least INno still loses to foreigners from time to time. Meanwhile Dark hasn't lost against a non-Korean in nearly 5 years.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-08 05:38:28
July 08 2017 05:38 GMT
#218
On July 08 2017 14:36 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:34 pvsnp wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:28 Solar424 wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:25 Solar424 wrote:
LOL Terran. Fail the cheese and still win.

She pulled more of her drones and lost some but ya it was totally terran :/

If she didn't pull drones she can't kill the marines, which then snowball and kill everything.


You don't need to chase that far though. The marines start losing equity as soon as the initial push fails.

You don't need to but all the Zergs think it is an oldschool proxy 2rax allin so they think once they scout it they just kill the marines and insta-win.

That's the beauty behind the new strat, it's a greedy opener disguised as cheese.


But what stops the terran to keep making marines and attack?

Is a cheese but with lotv eco terran and toss dot fall so behind vs Z when cheeses fails

LotV econ is not a new thing. This proxy 2rax is a new build. The counter (I assume) is to not overreact. Transitioning makes the cheese weaker, obviously.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 08 2017 05:39 GMT
#219
On July 08 2017 14:36 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 14:34 pvsnp wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:28 Solar424 wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 08 2017 14:25 Solar424 wrote:
LOL Terran. Fail the cheese and still win.

She pulled more of her drones and lost some but ya it was totally terran :/

If she didn't pull drones she can't kill the marines, which then snowball and kill everything.


You don't need to chase that far though. The marines start losing equity as soon as the initial push fails.

You don't need to but all the Zergs think it is an oldschool proxy 2rax allin so they think once they scout it they just kill the marines and insta-win.

That's the beauty behind the new strat, it's a greedy opener disguised as cheese.


But what stops the terran to keep making marines and attack?

Is a cheese but with lotv eco terran and toss dot fall so behind vs Z when cheeses fails


After you hold the initial push and prevent bunkers from being set up the marines aren't too threatening until stim and medivacs. And with lings you can keep an eye on marine numbers.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 08 2017 05:40 GMT
#220
In 2017, Inno 8-0 Ryung.
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