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Solar424
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Topin
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Argonauta
Spain4954 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The drones did nothing while they were picnicking on the map, nor did the dozen lings that followed up. The 2 rax was held pretty well by scarlett, she was ahead after that | ||
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TheDougler
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The drones did nothing while they were picnicking on the map, nor did the dozen lings that followed up. The drones prevented her from losing the game outright, and the lings could do nothing because Terran can wall off their main. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:29 Solar424 wrote: Terran's bag of tricks knows no limits. Been like this since 2010. Meanwhile Zerg has no way to punish a Terran who is ultra aggressive because Zerg can't get up a ramp until Ravagers. Dude, Scarlett fucked up. Stop making this into a balance thing. Even if the rush did nothing her not reacting to the banshee was the game right there for Inno | ||
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pvsnp
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On July 08 2017 14:29 Solar424 wrote: Terran's bag of tricks knows no limits. Been like this since 2010. Meanwhile Zerg has no way to punish a Terran who is ultra aggressive because Zerg can't get up a ramp until Ravagers. Go and rewatch the game on Newkirk, then watch the two games in VSL where Inno did the same proxy 2rax. It's not the same old WoL proxy 2rax, the point is to get an eco lead while he transitions, not to win outright. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:28 Solar424 wrote: If she didn't pull drones she can't kill the marines, which then snowball and kill everything. You don't need to chase that far though. The marines start losing equity as soon as the initial push fails. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Dude, Scarlett fucked up. Stop making this into a balance thing. Even if the rush did nothing her not reacting to the banshee was the game right there for Inno They were even before the banshees even showed up, they were just the nail in the coffin. Zerg's economy is so unstable because of 3 larva that any damage snowballs exponentially. I'd just appreciate if Zerg had any sort of way to deal early-game damage without being completely all-in, because it seems that Terran and Protoss can deal next to no damage and come out even. | ||
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Durnuu
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:29 Argonauta wrote: The 2 rax was held pretty well by scarlett, she was ahead after that Nah they were even at best after the extra lings couldn't do anything. | ||
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Ej_
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On July 08 2017 14:32 Durnuu wrote: Clearly we need to increase bunker build time. maybe just nerf innovation so foreigners can take whole 2 maps off the best player in the world Break his wrists or something. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote: You don't need to chase that far though. The marines start losing equity as soon as the initial push fails. You don't need to but all the Zergs think it is an oldschool proxy 2rax allin so they think once they scout it they just kill the marines and insta-win. That's the beauty behind the new strat, it's a greedy opener disguised as cheese. | ||
Shellshock
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The_Red_Viper
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Argonauta
Spain4954 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:34 pvsnp wrote: You don't need to but all the Zergs think it is an oldschool proxy 2rax allin so they think once they scout it they just kill the marines and insta-win. That's the beauty behind the new strat, it's a greedy opener disguised as cheese. But what stops the terran to keep making marines and attack? Is a cheese but with lotv eco terran and toss dot fall so behind vs Z when cheeses fails | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:33 Ej_ wrote: maybe just nerf innovation so foreigners can take whole 2 maps off the best player in the world Break his wrists or something. At least INno still loses to foreigners from time to time. Meanwhile Dark hasn't lost against a non-Korean in nearly 5 years. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:36 Argonauta wrote: But what stops the terran to keep making marines and attack? Is a cheese but with lotv eco terran and toss dot fall so behind vs Z when cheeses fails LotV econ is not a new thing. This proxy 2rax is a new build. The counter (I assume) is to not overreact. Transitioning makes the cheese weaker, obviously. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 08 2017 14:36 Argonauta wrote: But what stops the terran to keep making marines and attack? Is a cheese but with lotv eco terran and toss dot fall so behind vs Z when cheeses fails After you hold the initial push and prevent bunkers from being set up the marines aren't too threatening until stim and medivacs. And with lings you can keep an eye on marine numbers. | ||
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pvsnp
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