EPTOn June 17 2017 20:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Fairly positive that peak Innovation would still lose to DRG in that famous series or even to semifinals soO.
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On June 17 2017 19:49 Ej_ wrote:
The games vs INnoVation weren't close at all. He won first 2 with roach/bane all-in, Bogus then didn't go 3CC double ebay next 4 and crushed him. Peak INnoVation isn't in any Zerg's reach (save for the disaster against Soulkey).
I also do think it's the first time when soO's opponent isn't an overwhelming favorite.
On June 17 2017 16:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Just talking gsl finals here. As for INno, perhaps he did not look unbeatable at the time but he was far more seasoned at this level of the competition than Gumiho.
On June 17 2017 16:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
Nah, he had much better shot against Solar in that DH.
Or even Innovation simply because Innovation did not play *mostly* mech at that time yet.
On June 17 2017 16:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
You definitely have a point : this won't be a walk in the park for soO, that's for sure. I still believe this is the best chance he's ever had.
On June 17 2017 16:01 SNSeigifried wrote:
Hard to say GuMiho is an underdog his results this year have been amazing.
Top 8 at IEM Katowice losing only 2-3 to the champion TY after also destorying his group which had Dark/Innovation/ShowTime/uThermal.
Won the TING Open Season 3 with a 4-0 alive and 5-2 Neeb.
Loss in the Ro8 of the GSL Super Tournament 2-3 against the champion herO after also 3-1 Stats who had just won the GSL.
Then following this up with a dominant performance in the TAKETV Penthouse with a 4-0 vs ShowTime 3-2 Neeb 3-0 Serral and 3-2 HeroMarine.
Then finally you got this GSL run where he has 2-0 Zest 2-0 aLive 2-0 ByuL 2-0 Trap 3-2 TY and 4-2 Maru.
Anyone who thinks GuMiho is a huge underdog is very much mistaken the RESULTS NEVER LIE!!!
On June 17 2017 15:40 RKC wrote:
Any player who makes it to a Starleague final is almost by default on a 'hot streak'. Unless, of course, if he scored a walkover or two in the run up (which didn't happen). Shine was the hottest BW player too, in the recent ASL. But his lack of track record and experience puts him as an underdog. Same with Gumiho here.
All the finalists soO had faced were not underdogs (except arguably Dear, who only went on a tear after the GSL final win).
On June 17 2017 15:30 lolfail9001 wrote:
Gumiho is like the hottest player right now, actually.
And soO is unfortunate to always draw himself a player on the hot streak in every final he is in.
On June 17 2017 15:27 ParksonVN wrote:
This is the best chance so far, in previous finals he always faced the strongest ones of that time: Inno, Zest, Classic, Stats... but this time he gets Gumiho, not a weak player but definitely not the strongest, i would not put Gumiho even in top 5 players atm. Moreover Soo got Inno- the best TvZer to practice, so i think he will have a good shot against Gumiho
On June 17 2017 15:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:
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We've been saying that for too long to not know he can very well lose this finals and then get a seventh finals... certainly not what I hope will happen though.
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We've been saying that for too long to not know he can very well lose this finals and then get a seventh finals... certainly not what I hope will happen though.
This is the best chance so far, in previous finals he always faced the strongest ones of that time: Inno, Zest, Classic, Stats... but this time he gets Gumiho, not a weak player but definitely not the strongest, i would not put Gumiho even in top 5 players atm. Moreover Soo got Inno- the best TvZer to practice, so i think he will have a good shot against Gumiho
Gumiho is like the hottest player right now, actually.
And soO is unfortunate to always draw himself a player on the hot streak in every final he is in.
Any player who makes it to a Starleague final is almost by default on a 'hot streak'. Unless, of course, if he scored a walkover or two in the run up (which didn't happen). Shine was the hottest BW player too, in the recent ASL. But his lack of track record and experience puts him as an underdog. Same with Gumiho here.
All the finalists soO had faced were not underdogs (except arguably Dear, who only went on a tear after the GSL final win).
Hard to say GuMiho is an underdog his results this year have been amazing.
Top 8 at IEM Katowice losing only 2-3 to the champion TY after also destorying his group which had Dark/Innovation/ShowTime/uThermal.
Won the TING Open Season 3 with a 4-0 alive and 5-2 Neeb.
Loss in the Ro8 of the GSL Super Tournament 2-3 against the champion herO after also 3-1 Stats who had just won the GSL.
Then following this up with a dominant performance in the TAKETV Penthouse with a 4-0 vs ShowTime 3-2 Neeb 3-0 Serral and 3-2 HeroMarine.
Then finally you got this GSL run where he has 2-0 Zest 2-0 aLive 2-0 ByuL 2-0 Trap 3-2 TY and 4-2 Maru.
Anyone who thinks GuMiho is a huge underdog is very much mistaken the RESULTS NEVER LIE!!!
You definitely have a point : this won't be a walk in the park for soO, that's for sure. I still believe this is the best chance he's ever had.
Nah, he had much better shot against Solar in that DH.
Or even Innovation simply because Innovation did not play *mostly* mech at that time yet.
Just talking gsl finals here. As for INno, perhaps he did not look unbeatable at the time but he was far more seasoned at this level of the competition than Gumiho.
The games vs INnoVation weren't close at all. He won first 2 with roach/bane all-in, Bogus then didn't go 3CC double ebay next 4 and crushed him. Peak INnoVation isn't in any Zerg's reach (save for the disaster against Soulkey).
I also do think it's the first time when soO's opponent isn't an overwhelming favorite.
Fairly positive that peak Innovation would still lose to DRG in that famous series or even to semifinals soO.
That series was 3 months after INno's first GSL final and also during a season when he got eliminated in ro16 by jjakji and soO so "peak" is probably a stretch in that context
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Korea_GSL/Premier
