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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 31 2017 12:38 GMT
#221
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
May 31 2017 12:38 GMT
#222
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 31 2017 12:39 GMT
#223
On May 31 2017 21:34 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Rogue should learn ZvT from the EU Zergs. If he does that he will be unstoppable. All the korean Zergs should in fact


Yh those EU zergs with their one terran they ever to play against. Experts in the matchup
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
May 31 2017 12:41 GMT
#224
On May 31 2017 21:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.

you should stop looking in them

heh, burn
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 12:42:50
May 31 2017 12:41 GMT
#225
On May 31 2017 21:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.


Mirrors allow you to crown a "king" of each race. Only become horrible when the metas are bad (leading to rng wins). In gsl ro8 they will be playing their absolute best.

Plus its not like there's so many mirrors because of one race dominating (like gomTvT or PvP tournaments from hots). We still get to see all races


Edit: an all mirror ro8 guarantees a hype ro4/final imo
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
May 31 2017 12:42 GMT
#226
On May 31 2017 21:41 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:38 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.


Mirrors allow you to crown a "king" of each race. Only become horrible when the metas are bad (leading to rng wins). In gsl ro8 they will be playing their absolute best.

What
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 31 2017 12:42 GMT
#227
On May 31 2017 21:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.


PvP is fun
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
May 31 2017 12:44 GMT
#228
On May 31 2017 21:42 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:38 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.


PvP is fun

Late game PvP is the worst thing in the game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 31 2017 12:44 GMT
#229
Holy shit, Rogue did it?

Nice!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 31 2017 12:45 GMT
#230
All mirrors are good, only PvP is horrible when they both play disruptor ping pong.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 31 2017 12:45 GMT
#231
On May 31 2017 21:44 Musicus wrote:
Holy shit, Rogue did it?

Nice!

Yes!
Our long term fantasy team captain :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 31 2017 12:45 GMT
#232
On May 31 2017 21:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:34 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Rogue should learn ZvT from the EU Zergs. If he does that he will be unstoppable. All the korean Zergs should in fact


Yh those EU zergs with their one terran they ever to play against. Experts in the matchup


Well they certainly are more expert than those koreans keep going at the terrans with bane/ling when they have so much more powerful units in their arsenal (ravager/infestor into ultra and blord if needed).
Korean Zergs have the skill and all but are just awful at ZvT lets just finally admit it
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 31 2017 12:46 GMT
#233
On May 31 2017 21:42 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:41 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.


Mirrors allow you to crown a "king" of each race. Only become horrible when the metas are bad (leading to rng wins). In gsl ro8 they will be playing their absolute best.

What


For example, having a TvT upper bracket allows the hype of saying whoever gets to the final is the best terran (e.g. ty at iem).

Mirrors can be horrible but it depends on the meta. PvP disruptor wars and collosus balls etc aren't fun in general, but Stats and classic are the best protosses, no way that's horrible to watch. These players "should" be too good to die to mirror rng.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 31 2017 12:46 GMT
#234
On May 31 2017 21:45 Diabolique wrote:
All mirrors are good, only PvP is horrible when they both play disruptor ping pong.


Ping-pong is the only really enjoyable part of PvP. TvT is fun, ZvZ is as rubbish as ever.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 31 2017 12:47 GMT
#235
On May 31 2017 21:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:42 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.


PvP is fun

Late game PvP is the worst thing in the game.


I find watching it enjoyable and funny. Love the disruptor wars, phoenix micro, even carriers.
ZvZ just always ends after 5 mins tops and TvT is the worst, just waiting if the doom drop fails or wins the game.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 12:50:49
May 31 2017 12:50 GMT
#236
On May 31 2017 21:46 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:42 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:41 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.


Mirrors allow you to crown a "king" of each race. Only become horrible when the metas are bad (leading to rng wins). In gsl ro8 they will be playing their absolute best.

What


For example, having a TvT upper bracket allows the hype of saying whoever gets to the final is the best terran (e.g. ty at iem).

That's dumb. It only makes the person the best at their mirror (out of the available competition), not the best of their race.

And Classic vs Stats was horrible in the group stage, so sure they can have a horrible match.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 31 2017 12:50 GMT
#237
On May 31 2017 21:45 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:39 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Rogue should learn ZvT from the EU Zergs. If he does that he will be unstoppable. All the korean Zergs should in fact


Yh those EU zergs with their one terran they ever to play against. Experts in the matchup


Well they certainly are more expert than those koreans keep going at the terrans with bane/ling when they have so much more powerful units in their arsenal (rhavager/infestor into ultra and blord if needed).
Korean Zergs have the skill and all but are just awful at ZvT lets just finally admit it


No they aren't. They just have to play people like ty, inno, byun, maru, alive etc. The only eu terran worth mentioning is uthermal. Even keen, ryung, gumiho etc are far above any EU terran.

At wesg Maru either 2-0'd or 3-0'd every foreigner he met. And he's considered slumping by korean standards (and everyone on here)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 31 2017 12:55 GMT
#238
On May 31 2017 21:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:46 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:42 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:41 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Elentos wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:38 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Please no full mirror Ro8, group D pls


Full mirror ro8 would be amazing. Guarantees no mirror final and the hype of "best terran" vs "best protoss/zerg".

Except all mirrors are horrible.


Mirrors allow you to crown a "king" of each race. Only become horrible when the metas are bad (leading to rng wins). In gsl ro8 they will be playing their absolute best.

What


For example, having a TvT upper bracket allows the hype of saying whoever gets to the final is the best terran (e.g. ty at iem).

That's dumb. It only makes the person the best at their mirror (out of the available competition), not the best of their race.

And Classic vs Stats was horrible in the group stage, so sure they can have a horrible match.


It's called hype, its not always accurate but it works
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 31 2017 12:57 GMT
#239
On May 31 2017 21:50 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 21:45 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:39 Fango wrote:
On May 31 2017 21:34 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Rogue should learn ZvT from the EU Zergs. If he does that he will be unstoppable. All the korean Zergs should in fact


Yh those EU zergs with their one terran they ever to play against. Experts in the matchup


Well they certainly are more expert than those koreans keep going at the terrans with bane/ling when they have so much more powerful units in their arsenal (rhavager/infestor into ultra and blord if needed).
Korean Zergs have the skill and all but are just awful at ZvT lets just finally admit it


No they aren't. They just have to play people like ty, inno, byun, maru, alive etc. The only eu terran worth mentioning is uthermal. Even keen, ryung, gumiho etc are far above any EU terran.

At wesg Maru either 2-0'd or 3-0'd every foreigner he met. And he's considered slumping by korean standards (and everyone on here)


Yeah I see the point and I agree with uthermal being the only terran that could be considered top EU but there are a lot of mediocre zergs getting the best of not only uthermal but heromarine, sould maybe...
Korean Zergs >>> EU Zergs and if they started playing the "right way" against those korean terrans they would find much more success. Instead they are sticking to the style they are most familiar with which is dumb because they are not using those current Zerg strenghts at all in the matchup. They are great players, just not at ZvT and its their own fault.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 31 2017 12:58 GMT
#240
We just need more tourneys with Koreans vs. foreigners
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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