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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 10 2017 11:41 GMT
#321
Neosteel Enthusiast
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
May 10 2017 11:42 GMT
#322
I didnt think that LOTV would screw the game up so much that i'd end up missing colossi PvPs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
May 10 2017 11:42 GMT
#323
On May 10 2017 20:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 20:36 Durnuu wrote:
On May 10 2017 20:35 nojok wrote:
12 minutes in, still waiting for something to happen, I prefered 4 gates PvP, at least it was fast.

While I did prefer HotS PvP, the map is the one to blame here. Not LotV PvP

I'd say it's both. Mass carriers just wasn't a thing. Mass tempest was but at least ground support mattered for tempests to some extent.

Yeah, true.
Can't wait for Carriers to be viable in all 3 matchups so we can enjoy them any time a Protoss is involved
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
May 10 2017 11:43 GMT
#324
That's great and all Artosis but all the things Classic did you mentioned happened like 2 years ago. Or more.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 10 2017 11:43 GMT
#325
Just fix air armies already, nobody likes that
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 10 2017 11:43 GMT
#326
On May 10 2017 20:42 JackONeill wrote:
I didnt think that LOTV would screw the game up so much that i'd end up missing colossi PvPs


That's my cue, yes?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
May 10 2017 11:43 GMT
#327
On May 10 2017 20:42 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 20:40 Elentos wrote:
On May 10 2017 20:36 Durnuu wrote:
On May 10 2017 20:35 nojok wrote:
12 minutes in, still waiting for something to happen, I prefered 4 gates PvP, at least it was fast.

While I did prefer HotS PvP, the map is the one to blame here. Not LotV PvP

I'd say it's both. Mass carriers just wasn't a thing. Mass tempest was but at least ground support mattered for tempests to some extent.

Yeah, true.
Can't wait for Carriers to be viable in all 3 matchups so we can enjoy them any time a Protoss is involved


They are viable in all three MU:s. It's just hard to switch to them and not die in PvT. In PvZ it's doable on some maps where you can turtle on three-four bases. Carriers!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 10 2017 11:43 GMT
#328
On May 10 2017 20:43 Elentos wrote:
That's great and all Artosis but all the things Classic did you mentioned happened like 2 years ago. Or more.

Well he said "stats is the hotter pro right now"
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 10 2017 11:43 GMT
#329
Tempests do not counter carriers any more?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 10 2017 11:44 GMT
#330
On May 10 2017 20:43 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 20:42 JackONeill wrote:
I didnt think that LOTV would screw the game up so much that i'd end up missing colossi PvPs


That's my cue, yes?

Done with the rant about how blizzard fucks up their esports scenes? :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
May 10 2017 11:44 GMT
#331
On May 10 2017 20:43 opisska wrote:
Tempests do not counter carriers any more?


I would imagine it's because Tempests counter Carriers only to be countered by Blink Stalkers.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 11:47:26
May 10 2017 11:45 GMT
#332
On May 10 2017 20:43 opisska wrote:
Tempests do not counter carriers any more?

Their damage against massive air units was lowered and their supply count was increased, and carriers are much better than they used to be. So it's much harder to get a mass of tempests that kills carriers.

Also ground units can kill 10 tempests but not 10 carriers
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 10 2017 11:46 GMT
#333
On May 10 2017 20:43 opisska wrote:
Tempests do not counter carriers any more?

Also to be honest: Another long range air unit countering an air unit isn't the answer
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 10 2017 11:46 GMT
#334
On May 10 2017 20:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 20:43 opisska wrote:
Tempests do not counter carriers any more?


I would imagine it's because Tempests counter Carriers only to be countered by Blink Stalkers.


tempest + disruptors then?

anyway, elentos is probably right, he has a tendency for that
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
May 10 2017 11:47 GMT
#335
On May 10 2017 20:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 20:43 opisska wrote:
Tempests do not counter carriers any more?

Their damage against massive air units was removed and their supply count was increased, and carriers are much better than they used to be. So it's much harder to get a mass of tempests that kills carriers.

they want to give the massive vs air back tho right? But BL's make that hard to implement
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 10 2017 11:47 GMT
#336
How can we whine at somebody when we don't know David Kim's successor though

smart moves from Blizzard
Neosteel Enthusiast
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
May 10 2017 11:48 GMT
#337
On May 10 2017 20:47 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 20:45 Elentos wrote:
On May 10 2017 20:43 opisska wrote:
Tempests do not counter carriers any more?

Their damage against massive air units was removed and their supply count was increased, and carriers are much better than they used to be. So it's much harder to get a mass of tempests that kills carriers.

they want to give the massive vs air back tho right? But BL's make that hard to implement

Yes. Also I misstyped, I meant to say lowered, not removed. They're looking into a buff to fix the carrier situation but as you say, it's gonna hurt Zerg.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
May 10 2017 11:50 GMT
#338
ping pong into carriers!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
May 10 2017 11:50 GMT
#339
Oooooh yeah, Stargates
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
May 10 2017 11:50 GMT
#340
this micro must be so fucking hard
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