Koreans will expect cheese out of Scarlett and prepare accordingly. Macro against Stats/Classic is a losing proposition. Between a rock and a hard place. Maybe Classic chokes but I doubt it. Best of luck to Scarlett, she'll need it for this group.
I respect Stats and Classic, and the resurrection of Keen is really strange and interesting to me, but by god, how could I not be rooting for Scarlett? Hoping she's in good shape tonight! Go Scarlett!
Such a pity i can't watch it online, but defenitely will watch VODs! Providing I play porotoss and enjoy Scarlett playstyle so bascially every singe game is worth watching.
Stats disrespectd scarlett this game, he thought he could get away playing ultra safe and eventually win late game while letting her do what she wants.
On May 10 2017 19:01 nojok wrote: Stats disrespectd scarlett this game, he thought he could get away playing ultra safe and eventually win late game while letting her do what she wants.
I wouldn't say playing ultra safe is a sign of disrespect..
On May 10 2017 19:01 nojok wrote: Stats disrespectd scarlett this game, he thought he could get away playing ultra safe and eventually win late game while letting her do what she wants.
I wouldn't say playing ultra safe is a sign of disrespect..
Well it does say: I am good enough in late game that if we get there, I beat you. Some players play extra safe against weaker opponents because of that.
On May 10 2017 19:01 nojok wrote: Stats disrespectd scarlett this game, he thought he could get away playing ultra safe and eventually win late game while letting her do what she wants.
I wouldn't say playing ultra safe is a sign of disrespect..
Well it does say: I am good enough in late game that if we get there, I beat you. Some players play extra safe against weaker opponents because of that.
Nah it's a sign that protoss late game is imba, clearly
I think she might have expected a second round of attack right away, hence the swarm hosts not doing anything, because she somehow didn't see the 4th from Stats. Then she realized and panicked
Edit: never mind, ignore my diamond scrub commentary
On May 10 2017 19:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I think she might have expected a second round of attack right away, hence the swarm hosts not doing anything, because she somehow didn't see the 4th from Stats. Then she realized and panicked
On May 10 2017 19:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I think she might have expected a second round of attack right away, hence the swarm hosts not doing anything, because she somehow didn't see the 4th from Stats. Then she realized and panicked
yeah I think with the long delay between waves, it's a difficult decision to launch and remove such a big part of your from action for half a minute when an attack might come.
Stats totally botched that opening BO, by rearranging the 2nd Immortal for the WP and attacking. Parting does that BO in that particular order because it allows you to attack directly, quicker, and at a better supply timing. Trying to pull your opponent apart with an initial attack probably destroys most people, but I think the code S players are usually going to defend that initial attack pretty easily and so much can go wrong for your follow up push. Imagine if the WP dies, then your push is soooooooo sloooowww...
in any case tho, following that botched attack Stats just followed through on his sick macro/backup after doing sufficient damage to be able to stay in the game and just pulled it back with great multi-tasking and pretty bad opportunity capitalization from scarlet. I think she had pretty much the right idea on the follow up, just was too picky about where and when to use the SHs. I think she probably only loses in that position like 30% of the time or something, it looked quite good if she got right to it.
o well, decent game overall. i was quite happy to see the parting opener again. felt really weird still remembering the exact food timings on buildings from a HotS build in LotV hahaha
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore
The units are freer than ever now
A unit is worth as much as it kills minua its cost. I doubt SH are anywhere close HTs or even immortals.
But people love to assume the game lenght always approachea infinity and every host sends unlimited locusts.
SH are dirt cheap now though and locust DPS is great, so if you can keep them alive they will pay for themselves pretty quickly. The bigger issue is that they cut into your army size so when the locusts are on CD they are worthless in an army fight.
Also Abyssal really doesn't seem that good for the hosts.
They are called free units because they are physically present at the game with Hp bars and stuff, they doesnt behavel ike marine bullets even tho they are the sh "bullets"
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore
The units are freer than ever now
A unit is worth as much as it kills minua its cost. I doubt SH are anywhere close HTs or even immortals.
But people love to assume the game lenght always approachea infinity and every host sends unlimited locusts.
Well if you are using swarmhosts every time it's not on cooldown you can easily outdo immortals or hts, especially because in theory they are never in danger because their FREE UNITS engage the enemy while the swarmhosts are in safety
On May 10 2017 19:31 Elentos wrote: Why have these Protoss players decided it's better to have that pylon in the natural mineral line (slightly obstructing mining) than behind it?
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: The classic movecommand swarmhosts into gg
I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore
What, are they not free? Calling free units what they are is pretty damn justified...
I mean they have a cost and supply cost and have a downtime opportunity cost
swarmhosts yes, locusts don't
Again, each SH senda limited number of locusts in time intervals. Games don't go on forever.
true but trading vs locusts is always a bad trade, even if you lose 1 zealot for 20 locusts. though of course it's not as simple as that because of the cost of the SHs. I liked TLOs view on this:
It's not true that swarmhosts deal ''free'' damage tho. Making Swarmhosts is like taking a loan, If I make 10 swarmhost I'm in debt with with 1000/750 and 30 supply, the longer my swarmhosts don't deal damage the more damage they deal to myself cause I took a loan that is not paying off. Swarmhosts becoming more useless every single second that goes by and even a single wrongly send locusts wave can lose you the game. Swarmhosts styles are insanely hard to make work if Terran knows how to abuse the downtimes and knows how to deflect waves or push out during the downtimes. I've lost so many games because I send one wave to harras and then Terran a moved me and I only had one more wave at home which won't be enough to make my swarmhosts cost efficient. Swarmhosts actually need to get really close to do anything, if Locusts wave spawn from too far away you can just ignore it, lift buildings or run away workers/army.
The problem is that some mech players have planted this seeds that swarmhosts are simply too strong rather than looking at the solutions of strong players or finding their own too it. I've given you many examples how to deal with swarmhosts.
You should try to look at swarmhosts as an opportunity, because they're very gimmicky and a single mistake will kill Zerg. But if you fear a unit and think it's OP or broken design wise it's a self fulfilling prophecy cause you'll stop looking for weaknesses and solutions. I've been in that spot myself many times and once you are in that mindset you'll stop enjoying the game and just keep losing to it.
On May 10 2017 19:31 Elentos wrote: Why have these Protoss players decided it's better to have that pylon in the natural mineral line (slightly obstructing mining) than behind it?
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: The classic movecommand swarmhosts into gg
I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore
What, are they not free? Calling free units what they are is pretty damn justified...
I mean they have a cost and supply cost and have a downtime opportunity cost
swarmhosts yes, locusts don't
Again, each SH senda limited number of locusts in time intervals. Games don't go on forever.
true but trading vs locusts is always a bad trade, even if you lose 1 zealot for 20 locusts. though of course it's not as simple as that because of the cost of the SHs. I liked TLOs view on this:
It's not true that swarmhosts deal ''free'' damage tho. Making Swarmhosts is like taking a loan, If I make 10 swarmhost I'm in debt with with 1000/750 and 30 supply, the longer my swarmhosts don't deal damage the more damage they deal to myself cause I took a loan that is not paying off. Swarmhosts becoming more useless every single second that goes by and even a single wrongly send locusts wave can lose you the game. Swarmhosts styles are insanely hard to make work if Terran knows how to abuse the downtimes and knows how to deflect waves or push out during the downtimes. I've lost so many games because I send one wave to harras and then Terran a moved me and I only had one more wave at home which won't be enough to make my swarmhosts cost efficient. Swarmhosts actually need to get really close to do anything, if Locusts wave spawn from too far away you can just ignore it, lift buildings or run away workers/army.
The problem is that some mech players have planted this seeds that swarmhosts are simply too strong rather than looking at the solutions of strong players or finding their own too it. I've given you many examples how to deal with swarmhosts.
You should try to look at swarmhosts as an opportunity, because they're very gimmicky and a single mistake will kill Zerg. But if you fear a unit and think it's OP or broken design wise it's a self fulfilling prophecy cause you'll stop looking for weaknesses and solutions. I've been in that spot myself many times and once you are in that mindset you'll stop enjoying the game and just keep losing to it.
I wonder who he's talking about with "some mech players"
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: The classic movecommand swarmhosts into gg
I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore
What, are they not free? Calling free units what they are is pretty damn justified...
I mean they have a cost and supply cost and have a downtime opportunity cost
swarmhosts yes, locusts don't
Again, each SH senda limited number of locusts in time intervals. Games don't go on forever.
true but trading vs locusts is always a bad trade, even if you lose 1 zealot for 20 locusts. though of course it's not as simple as that because of the cost of the SHs. I liked TLOs view on this:
It's not true that swarmhosts deal ''free'' damage tho. Making Swarmhosts is like taking a loan, If I make 10 swarmhost I'm in debt with with 1000/750 and 30 supply, the longer my swarmhosts don't deal damage the more damage they deal to myself cause I took a loan that is not paying off. Swarmhosts becoming more useless every single second that goes by and even a single wrongly send locusts wave can lose you the game. Swarmhosts styles are insanely hard to make work if Terran knows how to abuse the downtimes and knows how to deflect waves or push out during the downtimes. I've lost so many games because I send one wave to harras and then Terran a moved me and I only had one more wave at home which won't be enough to make my swarmhosts cost efficient. Swarmhosts actually need to get really close to do anything, if Locusts wave spawn from too far away you can just ignore it, lift buildings or run away workers/army.
The problem is that some mech players have planted this seeds that swarmhosts are simply too strong rather than looking at the solutions of strong players or finding their own too it. I've given you many examples how to deal with swarmhosts.
You should try to look at swarmhosts as an opportunity, because they're very gimmicky and a single mistake will kill Zerg. But if you fear a unit and think it's OP or broken design wise it's a self fulfilling prophecy cause you'll stop looking for weaknesses and solutions. I've been in that spot myself many times and once you are in that mindset you'll stop enjoying the game and just keep losing to it.
I wonder who he's talking about with "some mech players"
:
Literally everyone with Terran icon in the general forum
On May 10 2017 19:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: The classic movecommand swarmhosts into gg
I wish they would stop calling it 'free units' though it's not hots anymore
What, are they not free? Calling free units what they are is pretty damn justified...
I mean they have a cost and supply cost and have a downtime opportunity cost
swarmhosts yes, locusts don't
Again, each SH senda limited number of locusts in time intervals. Games don't go on forever.
true but trading vs locusts is always a bad trade, even if you lose 1 zealot for 20 locusts. though of course it's not as simple as that because of the cost of the SHs. I liked TLOs view on this:
It's not true that swarmhosts deal ''free'' damage tho. Making Swarmhosts is like taking a loan, If I make 10 swarmhost I'm in debt with with 1000/750 and 30 supply, the longer my swarmhosts don't deal damage the more damage they deal to myself cause I took a loan that is not paying off. Swarmhosts becoming more useless every single second that goes by and even a single wrongly send locusts wave can lose you the game. Swarmhosts styles are insanely hard to make work if Terran knows how to abuse the downtimes and knows how to deflect waves or push out during the downtimes. I've lost so many games because I send one wave to harras and then Terran a moved me and I only had one more wave at home which won't be enough to make my swarmhosts cost efficient. Swarmhosts actually need to get really close to do anything, if Locusts wave spawn from too far away you can just ignore it, lift buildings or run away workers/army.
The problem is that some mech players have planted this seeds that swarmhosts are simply too strong rather than looking at the solutions of strong players or finding their own too it. I've given you many examples how to deal with swarmhosts.
You should try to look at swarmhosts as an opportunity, because they're very gimmicky and a single mistake will kill Zerg. But if you fear a unit and think it's OP or broken design wise it's a self fulfilling prophecy cause you'll stop looking for weaknesses and solutions. I've been in that spot myself many times and once you are in that mindset you'll stop enjoying the game and just keep losing to it.
I wonder who he's talking about with "some mech players"
:
Literally everyone with Terran icon in the general forum
KeeN in excellent form today. If his TvZ is as good, he has a decent shot at getting out. Also Classic playing sloppy, letting the initial harass do too much and then missing the doom drop.
On May 10 2017 19:46 pvsnp wrote: KeeN in excellent form today. If his TvZ is as good, he has a decent shot at getting out. Also Classic playing sloppy, letting the initial harass do too much and then missing the doom drop.
if he beats Classic he'll need to face Stats so he'll be pretty tired before being up against Scarlett, if she beats Classic.
the real realism would be that in the middle of the game, you as the commander would have to go to a senate committee hearing about the legitimacy of the war
On May 10 2017 20:35 nojok wrote: 12 minutes in, still waiting for something to happen, I prefered 4 gates PvP, at least it was fast.
While I did prefer HotS PvP, the map is the one to blame here. Not LotV PvP
I'd say it's both. Mass carriers just wasn't a thing. Mass tempest was but at least ground support mattered for tempests to some extent.
Yeah, true. Can't wait for Carriers to be viable in all 3 matchups so we can enjoy them any time a Protoss is involved
They are viable in all three MU:s. It's just hard to switch to them and not die in PvT. In PvZ it's doable on some maps where you can turtle on three-four bases. Carriers!
On May 10 2017 20:43 opisska wrote: Tempests do not counter carriers any more?
Their damage against massive air units was lowered and their supply count was increased, and carriers are much better than they used to be. So it's much harder to get a mass of tempests that kills carriers.
Also ground units can kill 10 tempests but not 10 carriers
On May 10 2017 20:43 opisska wrote: Tempests do not counter carriers any more?
Their damage against massive air units was removed and their supply count was increased, and carriers are much better than they used to be. So it's much harder to get a mass of tempests that kills carriers.
they want to give the massive vs air back tho right? But BL's make that hard to implement
On May 10 2017 20:43 opisska wrote: Tempests do not counter carriers any more?
Their damage against massive air units was removed and their supply count was increased, and carriers are much better than they used to be. So it's much harder to get a mass of tempests that kills carriers.
they want to give the massive vs air back tho right? But BL's make that hard to implement
Yes. Also I misstyped, I meant to say lowered, not removed. They're looking into a buff to fix the carrier situation but as you say, it's gonna hurt Zerg.
On May 10 2017 20:53 Elentos wrote: I hate this meme match-up
I didn't have that in mind when i said pvp is great
What did you have in mind though? PvP has no good parts.
Dunno without these air armies it's not that bad imo. Ping pong is decent
Ping pong is garbage
It makes the game slower in a lot of cases which could be seen as garbage i guess, but usually there is still trading going on and counter attacks, etc
On May 10 2017 20:53 Elentos wrote: I hate this meme match-up
I didn't have that in mind when i said pvp is great
What did you have in mind though? PvP has no good parts.
Dunno without these air armies it's not that bad imo. Ping pong is decent
Ping pong is garbage
It makes the game slower in a lot of cases which could be seen as garbage i guess, but usually there is still trading going on and counter attacks, etc
It's also full of trickery and if you're smart and good at micro you can make sick comebacks.
So is Stats retarded or what? He sees Classic going into Carriers, sees the numbers knows whats up and his response is get 6 more disruptors before actually dropping down his own Stargates? :D And then once he sees Classic has like 10 more Carriers than him he tries to catch up instead of transitioning to something else? :D
OMG, so bad... And Classic is playing poorly as well, I wish none of these 2 would make it out really. Its embarrassing to watch
On May 10 2017 21:08 MarianoSC2 wrote: And then once he sees Classic has like 10 more Carriers than him he tries to catch up instead of transitioning to something else? :DAnd Classic is playing poorly as well, I wish none of these 2 would make it out really. Its embarrassing to watch
On May 10 2017 21:08 MarianoSC2 wrote: So is Stats retarded or what? He sees Classic going into Carriers, sees the numbers knows whats up and his response is get 6 more disruptors before actually dropping down his own Stargates? :D And then once he sees Classic has like 10 more Carriers than him he tries to catch up instead of transitioning to something else? :D
OMG, so bad... And Classic is playing poorly as well, I wish none of these 2 would make it out really. Its embarrassing to watch
He hadn't seen the carriers yet when he was still making disruptors. There is no transition to anything else because mass carrier beats everything. Your comment was embarrassing to read.
On May 10 2017 21:08 MarianoSC2 wrote: So is Stats retarded or what? He sees Classic going into Carriers, sees the numbers knows whats up and his response is get 6 more disruptors before actually dropping down his own Stargates? :D And then once he sees Classic has like 10 more Carriers than him he tries to catch up instead of transitioning to something else? :D
OMG, so bad... And Classic is playing poorly as well, I wish none of these 2 would make it out really. Its embarrassing to watch
If someone here is "retarded", it's definitely neither of Stats or Classic.
On May 10 2017 21:08 MarianoSC2 wrote: And then once he sees Classic has like 10 more Carriers than him he tries to catch up instead of transitioning to something else? :DAnd Classic is playing poorly as well, I wish none of these 2 would make it out really. Its embarrassing to watch
what else are you going to make than carriers
Voids/Archon? Or try to go for basetrade / detection snipes... Anything but start making carriers when your opponent has 6 out already. And its his own fault. He overmade disruptors in both games against mass Carrier :D
On May 10 2017 21:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Was it pure numbers game or does Classic do a better job of targeting? He seemed to win every carrier vs carrier fight with large margin
He always had about twice the carriers minimum. No amount of targeting fixes that, unfortunately.
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
You'll just end up storming your own interceptors just as much, and Carriers don't really care about storm.
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
Yeah, I think there might be some combos like Storm/archon/carrier combos that could maybe do something.
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
You'll just end up storming your own interceptors just as much, and Carriers don't really care about storm.
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
Bad vs disruptors
maybe making disruptors feedbackable could be thing worth testing
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
Bad vs disruptors
maybe making disruptors feedbackable could be thing worth testing
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
Bad vs disruptors
maybe making disruptors feedbackable could be thing worth testing
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
Bad vs disruptors
maybe making disruptors feedbackable could be thing worth testing
Making Carrier feedbackable would be better
heh
but making interceptors mana dependable seems a bit harder than the disruptor ball :p
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
Bad vs disruptors
maybe making disruptors feedbackable could be thing worth testing
Making Carrier feedbackable would be better
heh
but making interceptors mana dependable seems a bit harder than the disruptor ball :p
they don't need have any spells, just give them the bar
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
Bad vs disruptors
maybe making disruptors feedbackable could be thing worth testing
Making Carrier feedbackable would be better
heh
but making interceptors mana dependable seems a bit harder than the disruptor ball :p
Don't just give them 1000 mana with a new spell, the Logarithmic Organization Logic, the spell give the Carrier a /dance that he can do while attacking
On May 10 2017 21:11 Solar424 wrote: Carrier vs Carrier is like Muta vs Muta except there's zero comeback potential. At least in Muta v Muta you can get a lucky fungal and come back.
what about storm?
Bad vs disruptors
maybe making disruptors feedbackable could be thing worth testing
Making Carrier feedbackable would be better
heh
but making interceptors mana dependable seems a bit harder than the disruptor ball :p
Don't just give them 1000 mana with a new spell, the Logarithmic Organization Logic, the spell give the Carrier a /dance that he can do while attacking
I just want a special ability to be able to suicide a damaged Carrier into a Hive and make it explode.
Pretty impressive from Keen, kinda disappointing from Scarlett though. There was definitely some room for Scarlett to counter or shut down Keen's harass (esp those Ravens).
Terran's role is it to harass and make sure the Zerg economy doesn't spiral out of control. Zerg's role is it to protect, maintain and grow their economy.
What kind of unit do you want? Zerg's production method doesn't allow it quite frankly.
The game has become more and more harass focused over time. Wince WoL Terran has gotten Liberators, Mine drops, and Reaper grenade. Protoss has gotten Adepts and Oracles. Zerg has only gotten easier Overlord drop, and has had it's comeback ability destroyed by 3 larva.
On May 10 2017 21:40 pvsnp wrote: This is deja vu back to when 2/1/1 was new and cool and super-effective.
Well, games like this are the reason why people still play it. Sure, you can hold the first attack completely if you're in position but if you slip up just a bit, it can do immense damage
What kind of unit do you want? Zerg's production method doesn't allow it quite frankly.
The game has become more and more harass focused over time. Wince WoL Terran has gotten Liberators, Mine drops, and Reaper grenade. Protoss has gotten Adepts and Oracles. Zerg has only gotten easier Overlord drop, and has had it's comeback ability destroyed by 3 larva.
The point is that the larva mechanic allows for zerg to produce a lot of units at once with just one tech building. You simply cannot give zerg units like oracles/liberators/etc
On May 10 2017 21:44 Solar424 wrote: Not sure why they're surprised by the Greater Spire, this has been the meta in Europe for a while.
If by a while you mean 'Greater Spire was the standard follow-up to roach/ravager in the foreign scene back in 2015 just after LotV came out', I totally agree.
Well, that was a good try, but Scarlett just kept eating EMP's throughout the entire game, losing more drones than what was acceptable early on and that nuke... holy shit. She would have won the game otherwise for sure.
Normally I'd now said "and that's what I stayed home for", but since I have a flu or something, not to mention that I can't really walk very well and basically live in my bed now, I have to consider this reasonable entertainment
On May 10 2017 22:03 pvsnp wrote: And now after that incredible effort from Keen, Stats is just gonna stomp him 2-0 with Adepts. Or maybe 2-0 without Adepts, because he's Stats.
On May 10 2017 22:03 pvsnp wrote: And now after that incredible effort from Keen, Stats is just gonna stomp him 2-0 with Adepts. Or maybe 2-0 without Adepts, because he's Stats.
There's a decent amount of tradition though to GSL champions dropping out in the Ro32 after their big win against players you'd consider far inferior.
On May 10 2017 22:03 pvsnp wrote: And now after that incredible effort from Keen, Stats is just gonna stomp him 2-0 with Adepts. Or maybe 2-0 without Adepts, because he's Stats.
There's a decent amount of tradition though to GSL champions dropping out in the Ro32 after their big win against players you'd consider far inferior.
On May 10 2017 22:03 pvsnp wrote: And now after that incredible effort from Keen, Stats is just gonna stomp him 2-0 with Adepts. Or maybe 2-0 without Adepts, because he's Stats.
There's a decent amount of tradition though to GSL champions dropping out in the Ro32 after their big win against players you'd consider far inferior.
TvP is just such a weird matchup. Doesn't matter who wins, always feels like imba in favor of the winning race. I guess balance through imbalance is a thing though.
I mean Stats is clearly the superior player by a large degree (GSL title kinda shows that) but this is still really stupid to watch. But hey, my liquibets
It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
And I don't mean they should've switched to YT :p
I know people like twitch monopoly for some reason, but I like YT SSL stream better because you can rewind more easily
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
And I don't mean they should've switched to YT :p
Almost nobody watches SSL Challenge though
The Adept-Phoenix league has some flaws in atractivness
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
And I don't mean they should've switched to YT :p
I know people like twitch monopoly for some reason, but I like YT SSL stream better because you can rewind more easily
I like it too but for viewer count, as you know, the should have a twitch stream as well
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
And I don't mean they should've switched to YT :p
Almost nobody watches SSL Challenge though
99% because it's on youtube.
Why would anyone care on what platform it is, as long as ti works?
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
And I don't mean they should've switched to YT :p
Almost nobody watches SSL Challenge though
99% because it's on youtube.
Why would anyone care on what platform it is, as long as ti works?
they're not aware of streams outside of twitch for some reason
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
And I don't mean they should've switched to YT :p
Almost nobody watches SSL Challenge though
99% because it's on youtube.
Why would anyone care on what platform it is, as long as ti works?
Well youtube's livestreaming simply doesn't have the reach
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
And I don't mean they should've switched to YT :p
Almost nobody watches SSL Challenge though
99% because it's on youtube.
Why would anyone care on what platform it is, as long as ti works?
Well youtube's livestreaming simply doesn't have the reach
you also can't fullscreen it in tab which is terrible
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
And I don't mean they should've switched to YT :p
Almost nobody watches SSL Challenge though
99% because it's on youtube.
Why would anyone care on what platform it is, as long as ti works?
Well youtube's livestreaming simply doesn't have the reach
Some things I guess are beyond my intellectual capacity. I just click the link ....
I don't know how can people blame Blizzard for their support of KR SC2 esports. There are probably more pros than kr viewers,but the company is still throwing a lot of money to keep GSL alive. The community should thank Blizzard for their effort to sustain a korean show that is obviuosly watched only by the foreign people
On May 10 2017 22:22 Penev wrote: It was comendable from them to try to cater to the Americas timezones but it might have backfired, they tried to get new viewers but instead they lost old ones? If they sceduled the weekend broadcast like SSL did it might have been better
And I don't mean they should've switched to YT :p
Almost nobody watches SSL Challenge though
99% because it's on youtube.
Why would anyone care on what platform it is, as long as ti works?
Well youtube's livestreaming simply doesn't have the reach
Some things I guess are beyond my intellectual capacity. I just click the link ....
Well you know about it already, i guess in general SSL never had the numbers of GSL but only streaming on youtube doesn't help at all. I don't think it's a problem for people on TL
On May 10 2017 22:34 stuchiu wrote: Also the round robin league format is more boring. Nothing gets your attention like immediate death in the tourney.
While that might be a factor, it's one of the least important ones i think
Actually i might even argue against it, with that round robin format you can see your favorite player regularly. So in theory lots of players playing the same day = more viewers
On May 10 2017 22:34 stuchiu wrote: Also the round robin league format is more boring. Nothing gets your attention like immediate death in the tourney.
Except if it's the immediate death of a player you like and instantly kills all your interest.
On May 10 2017 22:30 raff100 wrote: I don't know how can people blame Blizzard for their support of KR SC2 esports. There are probably more pros than kr viewers,but the company is still throwing a lot of money to keep GSL alive. The community should thank Blizzard for their effort to sustain a korean show that is obviuosly watched only by the foreign people
I might have missed a post but I didn't see anyone blame Blizzard
On May 10 2017 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Actually i might even argue against it, with that round robin format you can see your favorite player regularly. So in theory lots of players playing the same day = more viewers
I agree,I would have paid to watch this format years ago @penev: there was a reddit post where lots of people complained about Blizzard let SC2 die because they didn't support ProLeague with their money anymore. People really don't realize or refuse to realize that SC2 is completely gone in Korea.
On May 10 2017 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Actually i might even argue against it, with that round robin format you can see your favorite player regularly. So in theory lots of players playing the same day = more viewers
I agree,I would have paid to watch this format years ago
There was Proleague, which was kinda similar in principle
On May 10 2017 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Actually i might even argue against it, with that round robin format you can see your favorite player regularly. So in theory lots of players playing the same day = more viewers
I agree,I would have paid to watch this format years ago
There was Proleague, which was kinda similar in principle
On May 10 2017 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Actually i might even argue against it, with that round robin format you can see your favorite player regularly. So in theory lots of players playing the same day = more viewers
I agree,I would have paid to watch this format years ago
There was Proleague, which was kinda similar in principle
Proleague was a best of one,here you can see at least 2 maps of your favourite players every week. Shame that both Life and Rain are gone
OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
On May 10 2017 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Actually i might even argue against it, with that round robin format you can see your favorite player regularly. So in theory lots of players playing the same day = more viewers
I agree,I would have paid to watch this format years ago
There was Proleague, which was kinda similar in principle
Proleague was a best of one,here you can see at least 2 maps of your favourite players every week. Shame that both Life and Rain are gone
On May 10 2017 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Actually i might even argue against it, with that round robin format you can see your favorite player regularly. So in theory lots of players playing the same day = more viewers
I agree,I would have paid to watch this format years ago
There was Proleague, which was kinda similar in principle
Proleague was a best of one,here you can see at least 2 maps of your favourite players every week. Shame that both Life and Rain are gone
Rain plays tomorrow in SSL classic
Yes,it's one of the reason why I'm following BW way more than SC2!Some casters say he was boring to watch ,but I really loved it.I can't forget the GSL trophy despite being in a non KR team
On May 10 2017 22:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form.
I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...
On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form.
I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...
I wonder if Zest would be as bad as he is right now with proleague going on
On May 10 2017 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Actually i might even argue against it, with that round robin format you can see your favorite player regularly. So in theory lots of players playing the same day = more viewers
I agree,I would have paid to watch this format years ago
There was Proleague, which was kinda similar in principle
Proleague was a best of one,here you can see at least 2 maps of your favourite players every week. Shame that both Life and Rain are gone
Rain plays tomorrow in SSL classic
Yes,it's one of the reason why I'm following BW way more than SC2!Some casters say he was boring to watch ,but I really loved it.I can't forget the GSL trophy despite being in a non KR team
On May 10 2017 22:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form.
I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...
On May 10 2017 22:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
On May 10 2017 22:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
On May 10 2017 22:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
On May 10 2017 22:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
Again, really glad I didn't watch that live, not sure what I would have done
Sigh... Is drinking at 8am an acceptable thing to do. I think I need one right now....
You have to know that she played without sound because apparently the white noise made it impossible for her to hear it anyway. It's weird to me though, i wonder if other players feel the same way
On May 10 2017 22:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
Again, really glad I didn't watch that live, not sure what I would have done
Sigh... Is drinking at 8am an acceptable thing to do. I think I need one right now....
You have to know that she played without sound because apparently the white noise made it impossible for her to hear it anyway. It's weird to me though, i wonder if other players feel the same way
I don't think I've heard any players say the white noise was so bad that you couldn't hear anything. Other players are using in game sounds so it can't be that bad, right? Its very weird
On May 10 2017 22:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
Again, really glad I didn't watch that live, not sure what I would have done
Sigh... Is drinking at 8am an acceptable thing to do. I think I need one right now....
You have to know that she played without sound because apparently the white noise made it impossible for her to hear it anyway. It's weird to me though, i wonder if other players feel the same way
I don't think I've heard any players say the white noise was so bad that you couldn't hear anything. Other players are using in game sounds so it can't be that bad, right? Its very weird
Yeah not sure about the whole situation Though tbf she dealt with other nukes before that moment, though it's obviously way easier if you hear the sound.
On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form.
I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...
I wonder if Zest would be as bad as he is right now with proleague going on
On May 10 2017 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Actually i might even argue against it, with that round robin format you can see your favorite player regularly. So in theory lots of players playing the same day = more viewers
I agree,I would have paid to watch this format years ago
There was Proleague, which was kinda similar in principle
Proleague was a best of one,here you can see at least 2 maps of your favourite players every week. Shame that both Life and Rain are gone
Rain plays tomorrow in SSL classic
Yes,it's one of the reason why I'm following BW way more than SC2!Some casters say he was boring to watch ,but I really loved it.I can't forget the GSL trophy despite being in a non KR team
Rain was a beast, that's for sure.
I wonder how long GSL would've gone on tonight if Rain was playing PvP Skytoss...
Why do you keep relating that nuke to the sound? She was obviously looking right at the place where the nuke was planted, how else would she fungal the ghosts standing next to it? So she must have known about it.
Well it's also kinda unusual to put your nuke right on the army because those are usually the ones that never go off. Generally when you get a nuke alert you'd be more inclined to check on your expansions to make sure you don't lose all your workers.
On May 10 2017 23:19 opisska wrote: Why do you keep relating that nuke to the sound? She was obviously looking right at the place where the nuke was planted, how else would she fungal the ghosts standing next to it? So she must have known about it.
If you're not looking for a nuke dot and are focused on microing, it is probably very easy to miss.
On May 10 2017 23:19 opisska wrote: Why do you keep relating that nuke to the sound? She was obviously looking right at the place where the nuke was planted, how else would she fungal the ghosts standing next to it? So she must have known about it.
I mean sure maybe she knew about it but then it's just a massive mistake. Still, without sound it's way harder
On May 10 2017 23:19 opisska wrote: Why do you keep relating that nuke to the sound? She was obviously looking right at the place where the nuke was planted, how else would she fungal the ghosts standing next to it? So she must have known about it.
If you're not looking for a nuke dot and are focused on microing, it is probably very easy to miss.
The nuke dot is hard to see when you're looking for it, let alone when you're not.
On May 10 2017 22:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: OUT 0-2 TO KEEN!? REALLY!? If you had asked me what was one possible result I completely didn't expect that would have been it. How the fuck? Sigh... I'm very, very fucking glad I didn't watch live. That's really heartbreaking
KeeN might be a low tier KR player but he is still a KR terran so it should have been expected.
I was expecting Stats came first place and KeeN or Classic came second but I guess either way Stats and Classic got out as expected. Never thought Scarlett would get out but I was hoping she wouldn't finish last. But oh well, KR ladder is all she does these days so this is as good as it gets.
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form.
I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...
If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
Iirc at IEM the guys played without booths in front of a whole arena. No way they didn't hear the crowd
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form.
I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...
If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha
You don't know KT coaches. They let Flash play every week when he had like 7 losses in the row.
On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form.
I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...
If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha
Come on now. We all know he'd be fielded every game and play as the ace when the other KT super ace Leenock needed a rest.
On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form.
I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...
If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha
You don't know KT coaches. They let Flash play every week when he had like 7 losses in the row.
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game.
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game.
I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra?
On May 11 2017 08:04 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches?
Stats vs Scarlett Game 3 was pretty good. KeeN vs Scarlett Game 2, a great lategame TvZ, most especially The Nuke that everyone has been talking about.
On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form.
I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...
If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha
Come on now. We all know he'd be fielded every game and play as the ace when the other KT super ace Leenock needed a rest.
That's so true. I remember there was a period of time Zest was in one of his bad 'slumps', yet he still being fielded. Maybe it's to please the sponsors (just as some pro sports teams are pressured to for marketing reasons)? Or maybe some players can perform worlds apart in practice and live matches?
Or maybe Zest's play is really suffering from the lack of team-house environment. Which is kinda funny in a way, considering Stats always seem more like the team player, one who puts Proleague first before Starleague. Then again, it maybe explains why Stats is absolutely smashing now, being free from his KT shackles? And maybe Zest being kinda the aloof badass guy doesn't have as many close friends as some of the other pros have (contrast with Flash-Rain and soO-Classic bromances), hence now lack stable practice partners that team-houses have. (Yes, I know I'm really spouting speculations right now.)
Would be great to hear interviews from the Korean pros on how the disbandment of KeSPA teams have positively (or negatively) impacted their overall preparation and performance!
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game.
I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra?
thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something?
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game.
I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra?
thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something?
Wow, did I get that mixed up somehow? Thinking about it, logically it would make a lot of sense if it was vs someone like Idra rather than MC. I remember there was a victory vs MC that really stood out for me from that era (I think he was at full strength at the time and was beaten with mech?). Maybe somehow my memory has just crossed some wires in the intervening time. Kinda hilarious if so, given that it's "the one I always remember". Haha. Oh dear...
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game.
I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra?
thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something?
Wow, did I get that mixed up somehow? Thinking about it, logically it would make a lot of sense if it was vs someone like Idra rather than MC. I remember there was a victory vs MC that really stood out for me from that era (I think he was at full strength at the time and was beaten with mech?). Maybe somehow my memory has just crossed some wires in the intervening time. Kinda hilarious if so, given that it's "the one I always remember". Haha. Oh dear...
Don't worry about it, this mixing of memories happens to everyone. Sports are a good way for this to happen because you'll see a lot of matches and they're all relatively similar (as well as the circumstances around them).
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game.
I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra?
thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something?
Wow, did I get that mixed up somehow? Thinking about it, logically it would make a lot of sense if it was vs someone like Idra rather than MC. I remember there was a victory vs MC that really stood out for me from that era (I think he was at full strength at the time and was beaten with mech?). Maybe somehow my memory has just crossed some wires in the intervening time. Kinda hilarious if so, given that it's "the one I always remember". Haha. Oh dear...
Don't worry about it, this mixing of memories happens to everyone. Sports are a good way for this to happen because you'll see a lot of matches and they're all relatively similar (as well as the circumstances around them).
Yeah, my memory isn't always the best anyhow. Still... I'm going to assume that it's a Mandela effect thing and I just jumped between timelines. MarineKing still GOAT, right?
On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players.
I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game.
I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra?
thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something?
Wow, did I get that mixed up somehow? Thinking about it, logically it would make a lot of sense if it was vs someone like Idra rather than MC. I remember there was a victory vs MC that really stood out for me from that era (I think he was at full strength at the time and was beaten with mech?). Maybe somehow my memory has just crossed some wires in the intervening time. Kinda hilarious if so, given that it's "the one I always remember". Haha. Oh dear...
that happened too but when he beat MC he went into his booth and put his hand on MC's shoulder and everyone made Jesus pics out of Jinro
Another fun memory from back then. TL hated Polt around this time period because he said Jinro wasn't that good. Then everyone forgot about Polt when he became the forgotten GSL champ and even Blizzard Cup didn't have him in the opening credits. Then he came all the way around to being beloved
good first two series besides the 1st game bwtween scarlett and stats. then the PvP... man what a nightmare to watch that series... its even funny to play???!! i just want to have all air unis nerfed, they are too strong overall. Scarlett vs Keen was also good... that nuke though
On May 11 2017 08:04 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches?
stats vs scarlett was exciting and scarlett vs keen g2 was really good too
EPT
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