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On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago.
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On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
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On May 10 2017 22:54 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form. I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year... 
If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha
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On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct
Iirc at IEM the guys played without booths in front of a whole arena. No way they didn't hear the crowd
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On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
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On May 11 2017 02:21 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice,
I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
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On May 11 2017 01:58 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2017 22:54 RKC wrote:On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form. I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...  If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha You don't know KT coaches. They let Flash play every week when he had like 7 losses in the row.
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On May 11 2017 01:58 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2017 22:54 RKC wrote:On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form. I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...  If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha
Come on now. We all know he'd be fielded every game and play as the ace when the other KT super ace Leenock needed a rest.
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On May 11 2017 03:57 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 01:58 Fango wrote:On May 10 2017 22:54 RKC wrote:On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form. I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...  If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha You don't know KT coaches. They let Flash play every week when he had like 7 losses in the row. The only game Flash won in that round of Proleague was when BboongBboong was actually trying to lose.
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juicyjames
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On May 11 2017 03:34 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 02:21 Elentos wrote:On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice, I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him.
The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game.
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On May 11 2017 09:14 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 03:34 Fango wrote:On May 11 2017 02:21 Elentos wrote:On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice, I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him. The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game. I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra?
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On May 11 2017 08:04 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? Stats vs Scarlett Game 3 was pretty good. KeeN vs Scarlett Game 2, a great lategame TvZ, most especially The Nuke that everyone has been talking about.
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On May 11 2017 06:47 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 01:58 Fango wrote:On May 10 2017 22:54 RKC wrote:On May 10 2017 22:41 stuchiu wrote: Yea, I think that was what Proleague was for. And Proleague had the benefit of seeing more rotation in players if they drop off in form. I wonder if Zest would've been dropped if Proleague had been going on this year...  If proleague was still going on Zest would probably still have a team and be in form. But if he was still this bad he probably wouldn't be in the main season roster. KT would have been jjakji losira TY and Stats haha Come on now. We all know he'd be fielded every game and play as the ace when the other KT super ace Leenock needed a rest.
That's so true. I remember there was a period of time Zest was in one of his bad 'slumps', yet he still being fielded. Maybe it's to please the sponsors (just as some pro sports teams are pressured to for marketing reasons)? Or maybe some players can perform worlds apart in practice and live matches?
Or maybe Zest's play is really suffering from the lack of team-house environment. Which is kinda funny in a way, considering Stats always seem more like the team player, one who puts Proleague first before Starleague. Then again, it maybe explains why Stats is absolutely smashing now, being free from his KT shackles? And maybe Zest being kinda the aloof badass guy doesn't have as many close friends as some of the other pros have (contrast with Flash-Rain and soO-Classic bromances), hence now lack stable practice partners that team-houses have. (Yes, I know I'm really spouting speculations right now.)
Would be great to hear interviews from the Korean pros on how the disbandment of KeSPA teams have positively (or negatively) impacted their overall preparation and performance!
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United States97274 Posts
On May 11 2017 09:22 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 09:14 neutralrobot wrote:On May 11 2017 03:34 Fango wrote:On May 11 2017 02:21 Elentos wrote:On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice, I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him. The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game. I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra? thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something?
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On May 11 2017 11:38 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 09:22 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 11 2017 09:14 neutralrobot wrote:On May 11 2017 03:34 Fango wrote:On May 11 2017 02:21 Elentos wrote:On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice, I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him. The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game. I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra? thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something?
Wow, did I get that mixed up somehow? Thinking about it, logically it would make a lot of sense if it was vs someone like Idra rather than MC. I remember there was a victory vs MC that really stood out for me from that era (I think he was at full strength at the time and was beaten with mech?). Maybe somehow my memory has just crossed some wires in the intervening time. Kinda hilarious if so, given that it's "the one I always remember". Haha. Oh dear...
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On May 11 2017 13:51 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 11:38 Shellshock wrote:On May 11 2017 09:22 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 11 2017 09:14 neutralrobot wrote:On May 11 2017 03:34 Fango wrote:On May 11 2017 02:21 Elentos wrote:On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice, I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him. The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game. I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra? thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something? Wow, did I get that mixed up somehow? Thinking about it, logically it would make a lot of sense if it was vs someone like Idra rather than MC. I remember there was a victory vs MC that really stood out for me from that era (I think he was at full strength at the time and was beaten with mech?). Maybe somehow my memory has just crossed some wires in the intervening time. Kinda hilarious if so, given that it's "the one I always remember". Haha. Oh dear... Don't worry about it, this mixing of memories happens to everyone. Sports are a good way for this to happen because you'll see a lot of matches and they're all relatively similar (as well as the circumstances around them).
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On May 11 2017 17:52 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 13:51 neutralrobot wrote:On May 11 2017 11:38 Shellshock wrote:On May 11 2017 09:22 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 11 2017 09:14 neutralrobot wrote:On May 11 2017 03:34 Fango wrote:On May 11 2017 02:21 Elentos wrote:On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice, I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him. The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game. I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra? thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something? Wow, did I get that mixed up somehow? Thinking about it, logically it would make a lot of sense if it was vs someone like Idra rather than MC. I remember there was a victory vs MC that really stood out for me from that era (I think he was at full strength at the time and was beaten with mech?). Maybe somehow my memory has just crossed some wires in the intervening time. Kinda hilarious if so, given that it's "the one I always remember". Haha. Oh dear... Don't worry about it, this mixing of memories happens to everyone. Sports are a good way for this to happen because you'll see a lot of matches and they're all relatively similar (as well as the circumstances around them).
Yeah, my memory isn't always the best anyhow. Still... I'm going to assume that it's a Mandela effect thing and I just jumped between timelines. MarineKing still GOAT, right?
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United States97274 Posts
On May 11 2017 13:51 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 11:38 Shellshock wrote:On May 11 2017 09:22 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On May 11 2017 09:14 neutralrobot wrote:On May 11 2017 03:34 Fango wrote:On May 11 2017 02:21 Elentos wrote:On May 11 2017 01:54 Ej_ wrote:On May 11 2017 01:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 11 2017 01:32 FarmI3oy wrote: I wish they would bring back booths for the players. I remember TB saying that booths don't really do much anyway. I hope i don't make that up but i am pretty sure he commented on that booth issue some time ago. booths never functioned as soundproothing, that is correct At least they didn't work. What was it, Rain vs herO? IIRC afterwards Rain complained that the crowd was audible through the booths and gave away a proxy but he had to keep playing pretending like he didn't notice, I remember the herO vs Byul finals, herO paused the game because he could hear the crowd or something and it gave away that Byul was rushing him. The one I always remember was Jinro vs MC, where Jinro said in the interview afterward that he made a point of scouting extra hard early on because he heard the crowd getting louder at the start of the game. I dont remember this. You sure you arent thinking of me vs idra? thats what I remember it as. wasn't it the 6 pool game on jungle basin or something? Wow, did I get that mixed up somehow? Thinking about it, logically it would make a lot of sense if it was vs someone like Idra rather than MC. I remember there was a victory vs MC that really stood out for me from that era (I think he was at full strength at the time and was beaten with mech?). Maybe somehow my memory has just crossed some wires in the intervening time. Kinda hilarious if so, given that it's "the one I always remember". Haha. Oh dear... that happened too but when he beat MC he went into his booth and put his hand on MC's shoulder and everyone made Jesus pics out of Jinro
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Another fun memory from back then. TL hated Polt around this time period because he said Jinro wasn't that good. Then everyone forgot about Polt when he became the forgotten GSL champ and even Blizzard Cup didn't have him in the opening credits. Then he came all the way around to being beloved
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good first two series besides the 1st game bwtween scarlett and stats. then the PvP... man what a nightmare to watch that series... its even funny to play???!! i just want to have all air unis nerfed, they are too strong overall. Scarlett vs Keen was also good... that nuke though 
On May 11 2017 08:04 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? stats vs scarlett was exciting and scarlett vs keen g2 was really good too
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