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On March 02 2017 22:06 snow2.0 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2017 21:32 Ramiz1989 wrote:On March 02 2017 21:26 snow2.0 wrote:
I have been away from SC2 for a while, and these games have left me confused.
Protoss still have Zealots, right? Why are people shading these new, more expensive, less DPS units on top of terran armies in their stead? You will understand after you watch 20+ PvX how strong Adepts are. Basically unit starts with shade ability, it doesn't need to upgrade it, it costs more than Zealot but less than a Stalker, has bonus damage against light units so it shreds Marines into pieces, has attack speed upgrade and it is ranged unit, which means that Zealots will always block each other out, are easy to kite and focus down while majority of Adepts will be able to attack. i understand their use against light units. But in these games they are being shaded on top of tanks, and in general just being neglectfully thrown away. I'm not saying build a billion zealots instead, but this adept spam looks and feels like a terran trying to win games by building nothing but reapers. Sure it's good to start with, but en masse the cute tricks just don't work anymore.
They can shade. They teleport on top of tanks. Zealots get shredded before they can close onto anything. They have ranged attack instead of melee. Adepts are more cost efficient vs any Terran unit, really.
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On March 02 2017 22:06 snow2.0 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2017 21:32 Ramiz1989 wrote:On March 02 2017 21:26 snow2.0 wrote:
I have been away from SC2 for a while, and these games have left me confused.
Protoss still have Zealots, right? Why are people shading these new, more expensive, less DPS units on top of terran armies in their stead? You will understand after you watch 20+ PvX how strong Adepts are. Basically unit starts with shade ability, it doesn't need to upgrade it, it costs more than Zealot but less than a Stalker, has bonus damage against light units so it shreds Marines into pieces, has attack speed upgrade and it is ranged unit, which means that Zealots will always block each other out, are easy to kite and focus down while majority of Adepts will be able to attack. i understand their use against light units. But in these games they are being shaded on top of tanks, and in general just being neglectfully thrown away. I'm not saying build a billion zealots instead, but this adept spam looks and feels like a terran trying to win games by building nothing but reapers. Sure it's good to start with, but en masse the cute tricks just don't work anymore.
These aren't exactly the best games to show it. But the shading on top is extremely useful. They can trap units between each other so the Terran can't use the bio units' superior range to kite. They draw insane amounts of friendly fire into the Terran armies. You can't get engagements like this with zealots, adepts are just so much easier to get on top of the Terran army.
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herO is getting ownt by a reaper lol
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On March 02 2017 22:09 Ej_ wrote:
herO is getting ownt by a reaper lol
He's not looking great today.
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lmfao, artosis curse strikes again
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On March 02 2017 22:06 Elentos wrote:
Heromarine might get out of this group
That is
unexpected
still got to play Ryung and herO though, gonna be tough
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Artosis you just need to not say things like that. 2017 and you still haven't learnt.
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On March 02 2017 22:11 munch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2017 22:06 Elentos wrote:
Heromarine might get out of this group
That is
unexpected still got to play Ryung and herO though, gonna be tough
herO is looking pretty bad today so he has a shot. But Heromarine vs Korean Protoss is usually not a good thing for sure.
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Ryung not meching it work
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Turns out God bleeds. Nice attack by Solar
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On March 02 2017 22:12 Penev wrote:
Ryung not meching it work
the CC cancel did work
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Mine-shifting meta.....seems legit.
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Solar has got every edge in this game, he's gonna tilt off the face of the planet if he doesn't win
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On March 02 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
These aren't exactly the best games to show it. But the shading on top is extremely useful. They can trap units between each other so the Terran can't use the bio units' superior range to kite. They draw insane amounts of friendly fire into the Terran armies. You can't get engagements like this with zealots, adepts are just so much easier to get on top of the Terran army.
These are exactly the right games, because it was even supply and the mass adepts turned out to trade terribly, in consequence losing the games.
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the curse is even stronger when he has a cold
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adepts exploding into widow mines in 3 2 1
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On March 02 2017 22:13 snow2.0 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
These aren't exactly the best games to show it. But the shading on top is extremely useful. They can trap units between each other so the Terran can't use the bio units' superior range to kite. They draw insane amounts of friendly fire into the Terran armies. You can't get engagements like this with zealots, adepts are just so much easier to get on top of the Terran army. These are exactly the right games, because it was even supply and the mass adepts turned out to trade terribly, in consequence losing the games.
yeah mass adept is pretty bad vs bio/tank/lib, but mass stalker and mass chargelot are even worse :p. You need tech units vs Terran or a tempo advantage.
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