The very first WCS Global event of the year 2017 is here, Intel Extreme Masters World Championship in Katowice, a tournament featuring 76 total players, $250.000,00 in prize and a format last seen on IEMs in the 7th season.
The secound day of action will include the games from the Brackets 3 and 4, featuring 32 contenders to join the already 12 players defined for the group stage.
10:30AM Preshow 11:00AM Ro64 Bracket III 12:10PM Ro64 Bracket III 01:20PM Ro64 Bracket III 02:30PM Ro64 Bracket III 03:40PM Ro64 Bracket III 04:50PM Ro64 Bracket III 06:05PM Ro64 Bracket IV 07:15PM Ro64 Bracket IV 08:25PM Ro64 Bracket IV 09:30PM Ro64 Bracket IV
*All times are in CET, local time. Matches will be play continuously, starting time may vary.
On February 28 2017 07:36 sickkkciiityyy wrote: Nerchio got 1 shot vs Bunny/Impact in upper bracket. If he fall down he is doomed.
it would be brutal if nerchio was knocked out, in his own country, by the B-tier koreans
I suppose we're at that moment in time when a ro16 GSL finish means you're a B-tier Korean. Bunny has actually been playing pretty decently, so I wouldn't necessarily call it an upset if Bunny took out Nerchio.
On February 28 2017 07:36 sickkkciiityyy wrote: Nerchio got 1 shot vs Bunny/Impact in upper bracket. If he fall down he is doomed.
it would be brutal if nerchio was knocked out, in his own country, by the B-tier koreans
I suppose we're at that moment in time when a ro16 GSL finish means you're a B-tier Korean. Bunny has actually been playing pretty decently, so I wouldn't necessarily call it an upset if Bunny took out Nerchio.
A-list Korean means you're at least contender to win GSL surely? No disrespect to Bunny but I wouldn't predict him to get beyond ro16.
edit: I wouldn't be suprised either, bunny is very good. But losing to him does seem a bit worse than to TY, Stats, Inno, soO etc, who almost everyone is favoured to lose against
I know I'm posting this a lot of places, but it'd be cool to see TL's comprehensive feedback on how we, as a community, like long quals vs. short quals/traditional 3-day events.
edit: that's not to say that'd change much, but you never know.
This is for the best. When Nerchio wins the championship, we do not want anyone to say that he had an easy road. Probably is rigged this way on purpose to show the might of the one true saviour of foreign SC2.
On February 28 2017 18:06 opisska wrote: This is for the best. When Nerchio wins the championship, we do not want anyone to say that he had an easy road. Probably is rigged this way on purpose to show the might of the one true saviour of foreign SC2.
On February 28 2017 18:06 opisska wrote: This is for the best. When Nerchio wins the championship, we do not want anyone to say that he had an easy road. Probably is rigged this way on purpose to show the might of the one true saviour of foreign SC2.
The Polish casts is pretty solid. So far I have watched only Emil, who is fun, but these two are a little more serious and it sounds quite professional - also they speak with a really clean accent, so it's well understandable for non-native speakers.
On February 28 2017 19:24 opisska wrote: The Polish casts is pretty solid. So far I have watched only Emil, who is fun, but these two are a little more serious and it sounds quite professional - also they speak with a really clean accent, so it's well understandable for non-native speakers.
Found a person who enjoys Emil :o
Paranoid will continue casting on ESL PL after he is eliminated today
On February 28 2017 19:24 opisska wrote: The Polish casts is pretty solid. So far I have watched only Emil, who is fun, but these two are a little more serious and it sounds quite professional - also they speak with a really clean accent, so it's well understandable for non-native speakers.
Found a person who enjoys Emil :o
Paranoid will continue casting on ESL PL after he is eliminated today
You just don't have any means to understand how funny it is for me to listen to anyone casting SC2 in polish. Like if people just speaking polish wasn't funny enough, mixing in the sc2 terms is absolutely hilarious and that definitely skews my opinion on any polish caster
On February 28 2017 20:14 bulya wrote: Who did advance, Impact or Bunny?
The desk didn't say anything about it and none of the streams are covering it. But I presume if the series is already over it would have to be Impact since he was up 1-0.
On February 28 2017 21:35 D-light wrote: rofl impact, embarrassing
Is it really embarrassing for a player who didn't make Code S to lose to the best foreign Zerg who is trying to qualify for a tournament in his home country? Don't think it is.
On February 28 2017 21:35 D-light wrote: rofl impact, embarrassing
Is it really embarrassing for a player who didn't make Code S to lose to the best foreign Zerg who is trying to qualify for a tournament in his home country? Don't think it is.
Just how he played. And not sure if it being in nerchio's home country makes it more difficult for impact...
On February 28 2017 21:58 Penev wrote: one of the sillier things in SC2; infantry gunning down tanks with machine guns :p
At least the tanks can also kill the infantry. In C&C Tanks literally did no damage to infantry, so you had to drive them over.
But it was super satisfying.
you are evil
also, marines (stim) are too good and there should be more discussion about them
Nah
Making marines weaker is too troublesome because you'd have to rebalance literally every other unit in the game.
You might be overreacting but as long it isn't discussed or, better, experimented with we'll never know for sure. I hope at least Blizz consider nerfing marines (stim) for the next big end of the year patch.
On February 28 2017 21:58 Penev wrote: one of the sillier things in SC2; infantry gunning down tanks with machine guns :p
At least the tanks can also kill the infantry. In C&C Tanks literally did no damage to infantry, so you had to drive them over.
But it was super satisfying.
you are evil
also, marines (stim) are too good and there should be more discussion about them
Nah
Making marines weaker is too troublesome because you'd have to rebalance literally every other unit in the game.
You might be overreacting but as long it isn't discussed or, better, experimented with we'll never know for sure. I hope at least Blizz consider nerfing marines (stim) for the next big end of the year patch.
Every unit is balanced around the strength of marines. Well almost every unit. And I hope they don't do such a big patch again this year.
On February 28 2017 21:58 Penev wrote: one of the sillier things in SC2; infantry gunning down tanks with machine guns :p
At least the tanks can also kill the infantry. In C&C Tanks literally did no damage to infantry, so you had to drive them over.
But it was super satisfying.
you are evil
also, marines (stim) are too good and there should be more discussion about them
Nah
Making marines weaker is too troublesome because you'd have to rebalance literally every other unit in the game.
You might be overreacting but as long it isn't discussed or, better, experimented with we'll never know for sure. I hope at least Blizz consider nerfing marines (stim) for the next big end of the year patch.
Every unit is balanced around the strength of marines.
On February 28 2017 21:58 Penev wrote: one of the sillier things in SC2; infantry gunning down tanks with machine guns :p
At least the tanks can also kill the infantry. In C&C Tanks literally did no damage to infantry, so you had to drive them over.
But it was super satisfying.
you are evil
also, marines (stim) are too good and there should be more discussion about them
Nah
Making marines weaker is too troublesome because you'd have to rebalance literally every other unit in the game.
You might be overreacting but as long it isn't discussed or, better, experimented with we'll never know for sure. I hope at least Blizz consider nerfing marines (stim) for the next big end of the year patch.
Every unit is balanced around the strength of marines.
On February 28 2017 21:58 Penev wrote: one of the sillier things in SC2; infantry gunning down tanks with machine guns :p
At least the tanks can also kill the infantry. In C&C Tanks literally did no damage to infantry, so you had to drive them over.
But it was super satisfying.
you are evil
also, marines (stim) are too good and there should be more discussion about them
Nah
Making marines weaker is too troublesome because you'd have to rebalance literally every other unit in the game.
You might be overreacting but as long it isn't discussed or, better, experimented with we'll never know for sure. I hope at least Blizz consider nerfing marines (stim) for the next big end of the year patch.
Every unit is balanced around the strength of marines.
On February 28 2017 21:58 Penev wrote: one of the sillier things in SC2; infantry gunning down tanks with machine guns :p
At least the tanks can also kill the infantry. In C&C Tanks literally did no damage to infantry, so you had to drive them over.
But it was super satisfying.
you are evil
also, marines (stim) are too good and there should be more discussion about them
Nah
Making marines weaker is too troublesome because you'd have to rebalance literally every other unit in the game.
You might be overreacting but as long it isn't discussed or, better, experimented with we'll never know for sure. I hope at least Blizz consider nerfing marines (stim) for the next big end of the year patch.
Every unit is balanced around the strength of marines.
On February 28 2017 22:00 Musicus wrote: [quote] At least the tanks can also kill the infantry. In C&C Tanks literally did no damage to infantry, so you had to drive them over.
But it was super satisfying.
you are evil
also, marines (stim) are too good and there should be more discussion about them
Nah
Making marines weaker is too troublesome because you'd have to rebalance literally every other unit in the game.
You might be overreacting but as long it isn't discussed or, better, experimented with we'll never know for sure. I hope at least Blizz consider nerfing marines (stim) for the next big end of the year patch.
Every unit is balanced around the strength of marines.
"The panel seems split PiG, who do you think will win?" "Well, I think the player who will win is the one who is going to win Maynarde!" "Thanks for the insight PiG, now back to the games!"
On February 28 2017 22:00 Musicus wrote: [quote] At least the tanks can also kill the infantry. In C&C Tanks literally did no damage to infantry, so you had to drive them over.
But it was super satisfying.
you are evil
also, marines (stim) are too good and there should be more discussion about them
Nah
Making marines weaker is too troublesome because you'd have to rebalance literally every other unit in the game.
You might be overreacting but as long it isn't discussed or, better, experimented with we'll never know for sure. I hope at least Blizz consider nerfing marines (stim) for the next big end of the year patch.
Every unit is balanced around the strength of marines.
so what
So they'll never touch it.
They still should
But they won't.
However unlikely it is they did meddle with stim before. Also the notion that small changes to marines (and/ or stim!) is immediately affecting all other units in the game is an exaggeration. Maybe things should be tested first before stating something so final as this.
Weaker marines/ stim could finally make terrans follow a proper tech path instead of massing tier 1 units all game.
I have seen this unwillingness to change things while saying "Blizz will never do it, it is virtually impossible" etc before with the lurker. What I do know is that if it's never discussed it is unlike to be changed idd.
On February 28 2017 22:24 Elentos wrote: "The panel seems split PiG, who do you think will win?" "Well, I think the player who will win is the one who is going to win Maynarde!" "Thanks for the insight PiG, now back to the games!"
On February 28 2017 22:24 Elentos wrote: "The panel seems split PiG, who do you think will win?" "Well, I think the player who will win is the one who is going to win Maynarde!" "Thanks for the insight PiG, now back to the games!"
On February 28 2017 22:01 Elentos wrote: [quote] But it was super satisfying.
you are evil
also, marines (stim) are too good and there should be more discussion about them
Nah
Making marines weaker is too troublesome because you'd have to rebalance literally every other unit in the game.
You might be overreacting but as long it isn't discussed or, better, experimented with we'll never know for sure. I hope at least Blizz consider nerfing marines (stim) for the next big end of the year patch.
Every unit is balanced around the strength of marines.
so what
So they'll never touch it.
They still should
But they won't.
However unlikely it is they did meddle with stim before. Also the notion that small changes to marines (and/ or stim!) is immediately affecting all other units in the game is an exaggeration. Maybe things should be tested first before stating something so final as this.
Weaker marines/ stim could finally make terrans follow a proper tech path instead of massing tier 1 units all game.
I have seen this unwillingness to change things while saying "Blizz will never do it, it is virtually impossible" etc before with the lurker. What I do know is that if it's never discussed it is unlike to be changed idd.
You're right, depending on the change you make it won't affect every unit.
But affecting lings, banes, roaches, zealots, adepts, stalkers and sentries is inevitable.
On February 28 2017 22:26 Phredxor wrote: Alright so we need to nerf marines, nerf medivacs and nerf reapers. Terran OP.
Nah nerfing/redesigning the medivac will instantly change bio play, no need to nerf marines at that point most likely. Reapers are just stupid though
Yes, just changes to medivacs might revise our perception of bio. Probably the healthiest change for Terran would be to split medivac into medic and dropship and then adjust boosters accordingly. There would bo more room for other strategies than drop'n'stim then repeat.
On February 28 2017 22:26 Phredxor wrote: Alright so we need to nerf marines, nerf medivacs and nerf reapers. Terran OP.
Nah nerfing/redesigning the medivac will instantly change bio play, no need to nerf marines at that point most likely. Reapers are just stupid though
Yes, just changes to medivacs might revise our perception of bio. Probably the healthiest change for Terran would be to split medivac into medic and dropship and then adjust boosters accordingly. There would bo more room for other strategies than drop'n'stim then repeat.
Yeah that's what i would want as well. The problem is that everything in sc2 is balanced around hyper mobile bio drop play. Would be a lot of work to change everything else around that.
On February 28 2017 22:33 intotheheart wrote: Low blows are pretty funny though.
not below stomach low tho, It hurts me even not done to myself when I see below stomach blows
and I'm not talking about the other kind of blow :p
I get those a lot on the internet unfortunately.
your balls are virtually flattened
Oh yeah, especially with how the other shitposters tend to cut into me. ;__;
they're salty cuz you didn't put em high enough on the list
speaking of which, Heartland really wants to be No1 this year. I think we should give it to him
we're all pretty close to each other anyway
Ej_'s also pretty high up... or at least I see him on just about every LR.
yeah but Heartland wants it more, give the guy a break
Ej_ has won enough already
Shit I need to publish my grand council of shitposting so that we have a democratic process for voting shitposting quality and shitposting LR power ranks.
Also wanting it more is fine, but performance is what matters at the end of the day, no? We don't wanna cheapen shitposting.
On February 28 2017 22:33 intotheheart wrote: Low blows are pretty funny though.
not below stomach low tho, It hurts me even not done to myself when I see below stomach blows
and I'm not talking about the other kind of blow :p
I get those a lot on the internet unfortunately.
your balls are virtually flattened
Oh yeah, especially with how the other shitposters tend to cut into me. ;__;
they're salty cuz you didn't put em high enough on the list
speaking of which, Heartland really wants to be No1 this year. I think we should give it to him
we're all pretty close to each other anyway
Ej_'s also pretty high up... or at least I see him on just about every LR.
yeah but Heartland wants it more, give the guy a break
Ej_ has won enough already
Shit I need to publish my grand council of shitposting so that we have a democratic process for voting shitposting quality and shitposting LR power ranks.
It is a bit early still or are you doing more than one contest this year?
On February 28 2017 22:50 intotheheart wrote: Wasn't he 2nd place last time? Can't believe I can't remember.
Well I actually have the blog for signing up if you wanna be a shitposting Councillor which lets you vote on who's a recognized shitposter, and what tier of shitposting you think they are.
Did you go back and read the blog, or..? But with his recent form I don't think I"d put him below top 4 and with my recent form, I wouldn't put myself higher than top 12...
On February 28 2017 22:52 intotheheart wrote: Well I actually have the blog for signing up if you wanna be a shitposting Councillor which lets you vote on who's a recognized shitposter, and what tier of shitposting you think they are.
I'd like that
That's the one you mention that is not up yet yes?
On February 28 2017 22:26 Phredxor wrote: Alright so we need to nerf marines, nerf medivacs and nerf reapers. Terran OP.
Nah nerfing/redesigning the medivac will instantly change bio play, no need to nerf marines at that point most likely. Reapers are just stupid though
Yes, just changes to medivacs might revise our perception of bio. Probably the healthiest change for Terran would be to split medivac into medic and dropship and then adjust boosters accordingly. There would bo more room for other strategies than drop'n'stim then repeat.
Yeah that's what i would want as well. The problem is that everything in sc2 is balanced around hyper mobile bio drop play. Would be a lot of work to change everything else around that.
That would require changing a lot of units for all races, I agree but on the other hand we more or less already know what these changes would be. There was WoL which did not involve medivac boost and when it was introduced in HotS there were also other changes to some units specifically aimed for that change (mostly speed for other races units). So even though there would be a lot of changes most of them is just "backpedaling" and/or are quite obvious changes imho.
On February 28 2017 22:52 intotheheart wrote: Well I actually have the blog for signing up if you wanna be a shitposting Councillor which lets you vote on who's a recognized shitposter, and what tier of shitposting you think they are.
I'd like that
That's the one you mention that is not up yet yes?
Not only is it not up, it's been written for about 2 weeks.
On February 28 2017 22:52 intotheheart wrote: Well I actually have the blog for signing up if you wanna be a shitposting Councillor which lets you vote on who's a recognized shitposter, and what tier of shitposting you think they are.
I'd like that
That's the one you mention that is not up yet yes?
Not only is it not up, it's been written for about 2 weeks.
just to be clear: You have written it but just didn't post it. Procrastination attack?
On February 28 2017 22:52 intotheheart wrote: Well I actually have the blog for signing up if you wanna be a shitposting Councillor which lets you vote on who's a recognized shitposter, and what tier of shitposting you think they are.
I'd like that
That's the one you mention that is not up yet yes?
Not only is it not up, it's been written for about 2 weeks.
just to be clear: You have written it but just didn't post it. Procrastination attack?
Yeah it's written but not published. Wanted to wait until a lot of shitposters were active simultaneously so my blog wouldn't get buried.
Not sure if ESL does something different than GSL but I often have a hard time to distinquish which units belong to which player in mirror matches (ZvZ but also TvT). I love Abyssal Reaf but on that map it feels even worse.
Anyone else feeling like the colors are a bit off?
On February 28 2017 23:04 Hildegard wrote: Not sure if ESL does something different than GSL but I often have a hard time to distinquish which units belong to which player in mirror matches (ZvZ but also TvT). I love Abyssal Reaf but on that map it feels even worse.
Anyone else feeling like the colors are a bit off?
On February 28 2017 23:04 Hildegard wrote: Not sure if ESL does something different than GSL but I often have a hard time to distinquish which units belong to which player in mirror matches (ZvZ but also TvT). I love Abyssal Reaf but on that map it feels even worse.
Anyone else feeling like the colors are a bit off?
Abyssal reef is just harder to spectate on :[
Or think about... why isn't every unit a flying unit?
On February 28 2017 23:04 Hildegard wrote: Not sure if ESL does something different than GSL but I often have a hard time to distinquish which units belong to which player in mirror matches (ZvZ but also TvT). I love Abyssal Reaf but on that map it feels even worse.
Anyone else feeling like the colors are a bit off?
Abyssal reef is just harder to spectate on :[
Or think about... why isn't every unit a flying unit?
On February 28 2017 23:04 Hildegard wrote: Not sure if ESL does something different than GSL but I often have a hard time to distinquish which units belong to which player in mirror matches (ZvZ but also TvT). I love Abyssal Reaf but on that map it feels even worse.
Anyone else feeling like the colors are a bit off?
Abyssal reef is just harder to spectate on :[
Or think about... why isn't every unit a flying unit?
On February 28 2017 23:04 Hildegard wrote: Not sure if ESL does something different than GSL but I often have a hard time to distinquish which units belong to which player in mirror matches (ZvZ but also TvT). I love Abyssal Reaf but on that map it feels even worse.
Anyone else feeling like the colors are a bit off?
Abyssal reef is just harder to spectate on :[
No I think he's right, I think GSL uses a version of the map where the colors look brighter/better.
On February 28 2017 23:04 Hildegard wrote: Not sure if ESL does something different than GSL but I often have a hard time to distinquish which units belong to which player in mirror matches (ZvZ but also TvT). I love Abyssal Reaf but on that map it feels even worse.
Anyone else feeling like the colors are a bit off?
Abyssal reef is just harder to spectate on :[
No I think he's right, I think GSL uses a version of the map where the colors look brighter/better.
On February 28 2017 23:04 Hildegard wrote: Not sure if ESL does something different than GSL but I often have a hard time to distinquish which units belong to which player in mirror matches (ZvZ but also TvT). I love Abyssal Reaf but on that map it feels even worse.
Anyone else feeling like the colors are a bit off?
Abyssal reef is just harder to spectate on :[
No I think he's right, I think GSL uses a version of the map where the colors look brighter/better.
On February 28 2017 23:20 intotheheart wrote: I'm NA trash though.
Yeah I guess that is a whole nother level of trash.
I think if I played Z I might be able to jerry-rig a couple games out from better players.
It's pretty obscene tbh. It's called 3rd division so you'd assume Diamond or lower. But it's Diamond+. A lot of Masters players and sadly a bunch of GMs too.
On February 28 2017 23:20 intotheheart wrote: I'm NA trash though.
Yeah I guess that is a whole nother level of trash.
I think if I played Z I might be able to jerry-rig a couple games out from better players.
It's pretty obscene tbh. It's called 3rd division so you'd assume Diamond or lower. But it's Diamond+. A lot of Masters players and sadly a bunch of GMs too.
Maybe they got GM during the season. Not very likely, but hey... I went from M3 to M1 during the season for example
On February 28 2017 23:40 The_Red_Viper wrote: I mean jjakji plays terran, he has this
He has access to all the broken things - marines, reapers, medivacs, liberators and MULEs.
Hes also jjakji so leta not get ahead of ourselves.
I wanted to make a comment to make jjakji look better but then he pulled all his workers from his natural because of 2 zerglings so I thought better of it.
On March 01 2017 00:21 CrimeCat wrote: Really happy with the race distribution so far
with the most likely outcomes in bracket #4 this should end up in a 9 P 9 T 6 Z (probably Ryung and 2 P in bracket #4) that is kinda ok and reflects how Z currently trails a tad behind
wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If he wants to go deeper into the tournament Ryung can't keep hiding strats anyway. Might as well bust them out now to make sure you get that money.
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If he wants to go deeper into the tournament Ryung can't keep hiding strats anyway. Might as well bust them out now to make sure you get that money.
I guess so yeah. It's not like Stats will avoid T either anyway.
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If I followed correctly PvT is now P favored so PtitDrogo can win relatively easily given Ryung is primarily good in TvT
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If I followed correctly PvT is now P favored so PtitDrogo can win relatively easily given Ryung is primarily good in TvT
with the mine nerf not in game atm PvT is rather balanced atm and even with a P favored mu I wouldn't say PtitDrogo can win vs Ryung "easily"
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If I followed correctly PvT is now P favored so PtitDrogo can win relatively easily given Ryung is primarily good in TvT
with the mine nerf not in game atm PvT is rather balanced atm and even with a P favored mu I wouldn't say PtitDrogo can win vs Ryung "easily"
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If I followed correctly PvT is now P favored so PtitDrogo can win relatively easily given Ryung is primarily good in TvT
with the mine nerf not in game atm PvT is rather balanced atm and even with a P favored mu I wouldn't say PtitDrogo can win vs Ryung "easily"
What there is a mine nerf? What is it
+shields lowered to +25 I think. It's not through atm and the feedback on it was rather underwhelming, so I'm unsure it will make it to the live game.
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If I followed correctly PvT is now P favored so PtitDrogo can win relatively easily given Ryung is primarily good in TvT
with the mine nerf not in game atm PvT is rather balanced atm and even with a P favored mu I wouldn't say PtitDrogo can win vs Ryung "easily"
What there is a mine nerf? What is it
+shields lowered to +25 I think. It's not through atm and the feedback on it was rather underwhelming, so I'm unsure it will make it to the live game.
Less +shields on splash. I think a lot of people would rather wait with another nerf until it's clear whether the lib nerf was enough or not.
Regardless, PtiltThrowgo will never have an easy time against any Terran.
On March 01 2017 01:07 [PkF] Wire wrote: I think it won't be enough but seriously there was a point where the supplies actually got close, if only MaNa could keep more workers alive
you could see the jinx working but it has limits
On March 01 2017 01:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Time to borrow a pink TL shirt Mana
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If I followed correctly PvT is now P favored so PtitDrogo can win relatively easily given Ryung is primarily good in TvT
with the mine nerf not in game atm PvT is rather balanced atm and even with a P favored mu I wouldn't say PtitDrogo can win vs Ryung "easily"
What there is a mine nerf? What is it
+shields lowered to +25 I think. It's not through atm and the feedback on it was rather underwhelming, so I'm unsure it will make it to the live game.
Less +shields on splash. I think a lot of people would rather wait with another nerf until it's clear whether the lib nerf was enough or not.
Regardless, PtiltThrowgo will never have an easy time against any Terran.
- yeah I think it's really hard to assess if the lib nerf actually balanced of mu or even switched the balance in favor of P so I'm all for waiting ; - last time I checked his stream PtiltThrowgo seemed to have improved his PvT quite a bit
On March 01 2017 01:07 [PkF] Wire wrote: I think it won't be enough but seriously there was a point where the supplies actually got close, if only MaNa could keep more workers alive
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If I followed correctly PvT is now P favored so PtitDrogo can win relatively easily given Ryung is primarily good in TvT
with the mine nerf not in game atm PvT is rather balanced atm and even with a P favored mu I wouldn't say PtitDrogo can win vs Ryung "easily"
What there is a mine nerf? What is it
+shields lowered to +25 I think. It's not through atm and the feedback on it was rather underwhelming, so I'm unsure it will make it to the live game.
Less +shields on splash. I think a lot of people would rather wait with another nerf until it's clear whether the lib nerf was enough or not.
Regardless, PtiltThrowgo will never have an easy time against any Terran.
- yeah I think it's really hard to assess if the lib nerf actually balanced of mu or even switched the balance in favor of P so I'm all for waiting ; - last time I checked his stream PtiltThrowgo seemed to have improved his PvT quite a bit
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If I followed correctly PvT is now P favored so PtitDrogo can win relatively easily given Ryung is primarily good in TvT
with the mine nerf not in game atm PvT is rather balanced atm and even with a P favored mu I wouldn't say PtitDrogo can win vs Ryung "easily"
What there is a mine nerf? What is it
+shields lowered to +25 I think. It's not through atm and the feedback on it was rather underwhelming, so I'm unsure it will make it to the live game.
Less +shields on splash. I think a lot of people would rather wait with another nerf until it's clear whether the lib nerf was enough or not.
Regardless, PtiltThrowgo will never have an easy time against any Terran.
- yeah I think it's really hard to assess if the lib nerf actually balanced of mu or even switched the balance in favor of P so I'm all for waiting ; - last time I checked his stream PtiltThrowgo seemed to have improved his PvT quite a bit
Who was he playing against though
Hopefully it's true
the highest MMRs T on EU so probably uThermal, but ofc Ryung should be on a higher level
On March 01 2017 01:07 [PkF] Wire wrote: I think it won't be enough but seriously there was a point where the supplies actually got close, if only MaNa could keep more workers alive
you could see the jinx working but it has limits
On March 01 2017 01:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Time to borrow a pink TL shirt Mana
ofc, that's probably what happened
Penev, do you think Patience is winning easily vs Guru ?
On March 01 2017 00:27 [PkF] Wire wrote: wonder how Ryung will do vs Ptitdrogo. If he plays suboptimal things to hide his assets before his gsl semifinal I can sort of picture him losing that one.
If I followed correctly PvT is now P favored so PtitDrogo can win relatively easily given Ryung is primarily good in TvT
with the mine nerf not in game atm PvT is rather balanced atm and even with a P favored mu I wouldn't say PtitDrogo can win vs Ryung "easily"
What there is a mine nerf? What is it
+shields lowered to +25 I think. It's not through atm and the feedback on it was rather underwhelming, so I'm unsure it will make it to the live game.
Less +shields on splash. I think a lot of people would rather wait with another nerf until it's clear whether the lib nerf was enough or not.
Regardless, PtiltThrowgo will never have an easy time against any Terran.
- yeah I think it's really hard to assess if the lib nerf actually balanced of mu or even switched the balance in favor of P so I'm all for waiting ; - last time I checked his stream PtiltThrowgo seemed to have improved his PvT quite a bit
Who was he playing against though
Hopefully it's true
the highest MMRs T on EU so probably uThermal, but ofc Ryung should be on a higher level
On March 01 2017 01:25 [PkF] Wire wrote: Isn't Artur quite a lot thinner ?
seriously am I the only one that notices this ? Nerchio has never been fat or anything but he looks a lot thinner to me than I remembered
yeah seems so
if you were true Starcraft fans, you'd know that he's been running in marathons now that he's sponsored by Red Bull
I have to concede I'm not a true SC2 fan since I uninstalled and didn't watch a single game for like 5 months... I know I failed...
Was that serious ?
Why did you uninstall?
was frustrated with the game. It was after the hydra range buff. It was already a time when I was questioning why I was still interested in SC2 and playing it and the hydra range + tanks buffs really killed the little will I had to still play the game.
I reinstalled like four weeks ago because I started watching GSL again and that made me realize I actually missed the game and the community. I easily got the ranks I was used to with zero alteration to the builds I was using and very sloppy play in general, so I guess the overall level dropped quite a bit.
On March 01 2017 01:25 [PkF] Wire wrote: Isn't Artur quite a lot thinner ?
seriously am I the only one that notices this ? Nerchio has never been fat or anything but he looks a lot thinner to me than I remembered
yeah seems so
if you were true Starcraft fans, you'd know that he's been running in marathons now that he's sponsored by Red Bull
I have to concede I'm not a true SC2 fan since I uninstalled and didn't watch a single game for like 5 months... I know I failed...
Was that serious ?
Why did you uninstall?
was frustrated with the game. It was after the hydra range buff. It was already a time when I was questioning why I was still interested in SC2 and playing it and the hydra range + tanks buffs really killed the little will I had to still play the game.
I reinstalled like four weeks ago because I started watching GSL again and that made me realize I actually missed the game and the community. I easily got the ranks I was used to with zero alteration to the builds I was using and very sloppy play in general, so I guess the overall level dropped quite a bit.
No that's not what I was asking. You're French, no? You run the risk of your internet going out all the damn time. Why'd you ever uninstall a game this big?
On March 01 2017 01:25 [PkF] Wire wrote: Isn't Artur quite a lot thinner ?
seriously am I the only one that notices this ? Nerchio has never been fat or anything but he looks a lot thinner to me than I remembered
yeah seems so
if you were true Starcraft fans, you'd know that he's been running in marathons now that he's sponsored by Red Bull
I have to concede I'm not a true SC2 fan since I uninstalled and didn't watch a single game for like 5 months... I know I failed...
Was that serious ?
Why did you uninstall?
was frustrated with the game. It was after the hydra range buff. It was already a time when I was questioning why I was still interested in SC2 and playing it and the hydra range + tanks buffs really killed the little will I had to still play the game.
I reinstalled like four weeks ago because I started watching GSL again and that made me realize I actually missed the game and the community. I easily got the ranks I was used to with zero alteration to the builds I was using and very sloppy play in general, so I guess the overall level dropped quite a bit.
No that's not what I was asking. You're French, no? You run the risk of your internet going out all the damn time. Why'd you ever uninstall a game this big?
ha ha ha ha ha ha
The reinstallation process was indeed pretty long (10 hrs). But when I uninstalled I genuinely thought I would never play the game again so I didn't see the point in keeping it. I'm quite obsessive with things and I can't stand having useless things on my PC even if I have like 1000 free GBs.
nah he used almost every each one, but it was already over anyway. For me it seems that a zerg of his level should see that it's no use in that situation. Go basetrade and make two hatcheries in opposite sides of the map.
On March 01 2017 02:05 [PkF] Wire wrote: in fact Guru came quite close in both games, can he make it to the group stage through the LB ?
Maybe. Gonna be hard though. Ryung and Drogo are pretty rough.
Didn't even realize he would more or less have to play vs one of those... he probably missed his chance if there ever was one. He still has a slim chance left for instance PtitDrogo loses vs MaNa after getting in the LB. Otherwise I think he's doomed because PtitDrogo will 100% beat him, same for Ryung.
Ryung discovering the grenade doesn't hit the msc (or more likely hoping to hit a probe that would pop out at that exact time, which would have been useless but beautiful)
On March 01 2017 02:28 Elentos wrote: This push is so late but going so well still?
I think both blink and glaives / charge and 1/1 are pivotal to the hold normally and with his build Drogo didn't have what he needed
But I almost never see anyone lose to a tank push at 9 minutes. I mean they both reached 150 supply, when does that ever happen?
It was a pretty unusually high amount of tanks though, but yeah I was surprised as well. Another mistake by Drogo is to never have contested Ryung's positioning, you can move around with colo and stalkers to force sieges
On March 01 2017 02:32 Elentos wrote: Man Kaelaris play-by-play is so much fun.
We should do a caster power ranking :O
Great way to upset a lot of people.
You'd have to differentiate between play-by-play and analytic casters though.
Hm i guess. But that's too much work
You give people a list of casters and ask them to rank them. Participants make one list for play-by-play, one for analytical casting. You add the points together and make an overall list.
On March 01 2017 02:32 Elentos wrote: Man Kaelaris play-by-play is so much fun.
We should do a caster power ranking :O
Great way to upset a lot of people.
You'd have to differentiate between play-by-play and analytic casters though.
Hm i guess. But that's too much work
You give people a list of casters and ask them to rank them. Participants make one list for play-by-play, one for analytical casting. You add the points together and make an overall list.
Well not so much the concept, more like creating a list. Way harder than for players tbh, especially because you have to seperate the casters
a lot of misreads by Drogo in the series, overall he didn't play that bad but he got caught surprised by many of Ryung's moves. He nearly turned it around when he caught Ryung not watching his army with 5 medivacs worth of units around the map, but going into the PF was the mistake that ended it.
On March 01 2017 02:51 [PkF] Wire wrote: ouch ouch ouch
what a slaughter of a last fight
a lot of misreads by Drogo in the series, overall he didn't play that bad but he got caught surprised by many of Ryung's moves. He nearly turned it around when he caught Ryung not watching his army with 5 medivacs worth of units around the map, but going into the PF was the mistake that ended it.
He still should get through via the LB.
He has to beat mana then he's fine...but bo3 pvp man idk, scary
On March 01 2017 02:51 [PkF] Wire wrote: ouch ouch ouch
what a slaughter of a last fight
a lot of misreads by Drogo in the series, overall he didn't play that bad but he got caught surprised by many of Ryung's moves. He nearly turned it around when he caught Ryung not watching his army with 5 medivacs worth of units around the map, but going into the PF was the mistake that ended it.
He still should get through via the LB.
He has to beat mana then he's fine...but bo3 pvp man idk, scary
yeah that's the one thing that has me scared... lower part of LB is freewin since he's so good at PvZ but he can lose vs MaNa - who will then lose to whichever Z he'll play
On March 01 2017 02:32 Elentos wrote: Man Kaelaris play-by-play is so much fun.
We should do a caster power ranking :O
Root did one once
Wolf was considered worst caster
I really like wolf. He oftentimes fails with his calls but i think the atmosphere a caster creates is way more important. He is great.
I think Wolf is a really nice guy who tries really hard and is nice to listen to. But he's not amazing at telling people things about SC2.
I think most casters ever won't be able to present deep analysis tbh. And i also do not think that they should do what while the game is going on. I would rather have analysis segments after the game is done by actual analysts, casting is more about helping the viewer to have an enjoyable experience. Hyping, pointing some things out for people who aren't completely focused, stuff like that. Basically like commentators in real sports.
On March 01 2017 02:58 ShAd_1337 wrote: these group stages are gonna be so damm stacked. there will most cetain no free pass. just group c could end up weak'ish
I'm so excited for that, the competition is gonna be fierce and most EU/NA players everyone wants to see tested vs the Koreans are here and going to get a run for their money
On March 01 2017 02:58 ShAd_1337 wrote: these group stages are gonna be so damm stacked. there will most cetain no free pass. just group c could end up weak'ish
At worst it could be: zest true serral harstem pilipili guru
On March 01 2017 02:58 ShAd_1337 wrote: these group stages are gonna be so damm stacked. there will most cetain no free pass. just group c could end up weak'ish
At worst it could be: zest true serral harstem pilipili guru
I have to say I'd be a shade less excited to watch such a group ^^
I am a little sad that I don't have time to shitpost and watch properly as I am just mainly listening to the stream on background and watching from time to time when it sounds interesting while working. But I have to say that this kind of background, I could really get used to. Shame there isn't more of such greatly produced SC2 daily!
On March 01 2017 03:13 opisska wrote: I am a little sad that I don't have time to shitpost and watch properly as I am just mainly listening to the stream on background and watching from time to time when it sounds interesting while working. But I have to say that this kind of background, I could really get used to. Shame there isn't more of such greatly produced SC2 daily!
On March 01 2017 03:13 opisska wrote: I am a little sad that I don't have time to shitpost and watch properly as I am just mainly listening to the stream on background and watching from time to time when it sounds interesting while working. But I have to say that this kind of background, I could really get used to. Shame there isn't more of such greatly produced SC2 daily!
Now it is time to watch! PvP!
Yeah, it's ping pong that's the variety I actually enjoy!
But honestly, this was fun but not very good play. Or are these "European disruptors" different from the Korean ones? Because in GSL we very rarely see them doing that much damage to blink stalkers ...
On March 01 2017 03:13 opisska wrote: I am a little sad that I don't have time to shitpost and watch properly as I am just mainly listening to the stream on background and watching from time to time when it sounds interesting while working. But I have to say that this kind of background, I could really get used to. Shame there isn't more of such greatly produced SC2 daily!
Now it is time to watch! PvP!
Yeah, it's ping pong that's the variety I actually enjoy!
On March 01 2017 03:23 opisska wrote: But honestly, this was fun but not very good play. Or are these "European disruptors" different from the Korean ones? Because in GSL we very rarely see them doing that much damage to blink stalkers ...
they played more agressive than players usually do vs disruptors. also the map makes it hard to dodge disruptor shots.
On March 01 2017 03:23 opisska wrote: But honestly, this was fun but not very good play. Or are these "European disruptors" different from the Korean ones? Because in GSL we very rarely see them doing that much damage to blink stalkers ...
they played more agressive than players usually do vs disruptors. also the map makes it hard to dodge disruptor shots.
Yeah, this probably came out overly negative, but I still think that there were too many mistakes for this level of play and that makes it painful to watch, because I cheer for these players to really become competitive against Koreans. But maybe I was too critical and your points are valid and I saw too much into it. I would certainly never be able to play even this good, that much is clear (that's why I play the a-move no-skill make-t3-to-win race)
On March 01 2017 03:23 opisska wrote: But honestly, this was fun but not very good play. Or are these "European disruptors" different from the Korean ones? Because in GSL we very rarely see them doing that much damage to blink stalkers ...
so in other words what you're saying is foreigners trash?
MaNa, well mannered, well articulated, well dressed, veteran macro player on Team Liquid.
Guru, xenophobic, dimwitted F2 abuser in a Vatican City cap that he wears so he the Sun doesn't shine at his eyes when he's playing SC2 in his room. Masses Zerglings in half of his games.
On March 01 2017 03:49 Ej_ wrote: MaNa, well mannered, well articulated, well dressed, veteran macro player on Team Liquid.
Guru, xenophobic, dimwitted F2 abuser in a Vatican City cap that he wears so he the Sun doesn't shine at his eyes when he's playing SC2 in his room. Masses Zerglings in half of his games.
On March 01 2017 03:49 Ej_ wrote: MaNa, well mannered, well articulated, well dressed, veteran macro player on Team Liquid.
Guru, xenophobic, dimwitted F2 abuser in a Vatican City cap that he wears so he the Sun doesn't shine at his eyes when he's playing SC2 in his room. Masses Zerglings in half of his games.
On March 01 2017 03:49 Ej_ wrote: MaNa, well mannered, well articulated, well dressed, veteran macro player on Team Liquid.
Guru, xenophobic, dimwitted F2 abuser in a Vatican City cap that he wears so he the Sun doesn't shine at his eyes when he's playing SC2 in his room. Masses Zerglings in half of his games.
On March 01 2017 03:49 Ej_ wrote: MaNa, well mannered, well articulated, well dressed, veteran macro player on Team Liquid.
Guru, xenophobic, dimwitted F2 abuser in a Vatican City cap that he wears so he the Sun doesn't shine at his eyes when he's playing SC2 in his room. Masses Zerglings in half of his games.
good groups. A and B are awfully stacked, C a bit weaker and D looks to be very uneven (the Koreans should dominate). Still looking forward to all those ggs.
Some pretty stacked groups all told. Group A looks the hardest though. Group B will be interesting, since TY is strong but the other two Terrans aren't as good as Stats or Neeb. C is weaksauce. Group D is gonna be the grave of foreigners. Dark and Inno gonna roflstomp so hard.
On March 01 2017 04:49 Elentos wrote: C was the weakest group from the start.
Oh boy we're in for a lot of mirrors this week.
quite hard to avoid with round robin groups of 6 players but yeah the B and C groups with their 3 mus better produce some good games and generate suspense, otherwise they'll become boring pretty fast
Byun and hero ahead of Ryung?! Blasphemy! But nope, it's going to happen. This map pool is a lot different from the GSL map pool and I believe both Byun and hero play on it better. Snute will also be very close to beating Ryung for 3rd place but will probably lose out in the head to head. I do really want to place Snute at 3rd though but in this group it too hard to do. Sorry HeroMarine.
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Group B:
1)Stats 2)TY 3)Harstem 4)Alive 5)Jjakji 6)Neeb
The hell is this? Herstem...3rd? I believe! Stats and TY both won't lose to anyone else until Stats beats TY in their games. Harstem is looking stronger than Neeb currently and I think will out PvP him. This just leaves Harstem beating both Jjakji and Alive...do I sound crazy yet? Believe my brothers! Honestly, Alive will probably be 3rd in this group but I'll be rooting for Harstem to pull through. =)
Zest is best. Strong protoss that can out PvP and PvZ everybody in this group. Nerchio stands a good chance against Zest but in the end, Zest can get abusive which will get into Nerchio's head. Nerchio can out ZvZ both True & Serral and shouldn't have problem with Pilipili. Patience could out edge True but I think with the current map pool (and the correct map bans!) True should be able to beat Patience. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Patience instead of True for 3rd.
I want to place somebody else at 1st, I really do...but I can't. Innovation is too good to bet against. I'm taking a calculated risk with Mana taking 3rd in this group. It will come down to him and Gumiho but I believe Mana can out edge Gumiho by the slightest of margins. Showtime, as much as he rocks, will unfortunately bomb out of this group. But at least he'll beat uThermal! <3
Byun and hero ahead of Ryung?! Blasphemy! But nope, it's going to happen. This map pool is a lot different from the GSL map pool and I believe both Byun and hero play on it better. Snute will also be very close to beating Ryung for 3rd place but will probably lose out in the head to head. I do really want to place Snute at 3rd though but in this group it too hard to do. Sorry HeroMarine.
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Group B:
1)Stats 2)TY 3)Harstem 4)Alive 5)Jjakji 6)Neeb
The hell is this? Herstem...3rd? I believe! Stats and TY both won't lose to anyone else until Stats beats TY in their games. Harstem is looking stronger than Neeb currently and I think will out PvP him. This just leaves Harstem beating both Jjakji and Alive...do I sound crazy yet? Believe my brothers! Honestly, Alive will probably be 3rd in this group but I'll be rooting for Harstem to pull through. =)
Zest is best. Strong protoss that can out PvP and PvZ everybody in this group. Nerchio stands a good chance against Zest but in the end, Zest can get abusive which will get into Nerchio's head. Nerchio can out ZvZ both True & Serral and shouldn't have problem with Pilipili. Patience could out edge True but I think with the current map pool (and the correct map bans!) True should be able to beat Patience. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Patience instead of True for 3rd.
I want to place somebody else at 1st, I really do...but I can't. Innovation is too good to bet against. I'm taking a calculated risk with Mana taking 3rd in this group. It will come down to him and Gumiho but I believe Mana can out edge Gumiho by the slightest of margins. Showtime, as much as he rocks, will unfortunately bomb out of this group. But at least he'll beat uThermal! <3
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Not bad, but you totally underestimate Showtime .
Edit: And sadly overestimate Harstem, especially in this group full of Terrans. I feel bad for him.
ByuN and herO fight for 1st, fight for 3rd between Solar, Ryung and possibly Snute. Heromarine is kinda rekt here. Note: I'm not indicating exact results, just likelihood of winning.
If actual TY shows up, Stats is his only competitor for 1st place but he's still the favorite. If foreign tournament TY shows up, he's gonna have to fight for top 2. Still Stats and TY should be top 2. aLive looks to be the favorite for 3rd but he's not really been doing great at offline events so he could get upset. Harstem... Harstem never asked for this. He never asked for any of this.
Zest is the favorite but shouldn't underestimate Patience and TRUE if he wants 1st place. Nerchio has a decent shot at advancing but needs to work on his ZvP confidence. Serral has to really, really show up if he wants to have a chance and PiLiPiLi seems fucked.
Inno and Dark are the obvious favorites, Dark beating Inno is probably the only way Inno doesn't get first. Could see a decent fight for 3rd between Gumi, Showtime and perhaps uThermal. But even with the home crowd advantage I don't see much hope for MaNa.
Byun and hero ahead of Ryung?! Blasphemy! But nope, it's going to happen. This map pool is a lot different from the GSL map pool and I believe both Byun and hero play on it better. Snute will also be very close to beating Ryung for 3rd place but will probably lose out in the head to head. I do really want to place Snute at 3rd though but in this group it too hard to do. Sorry HeroMarine.
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Group B:
1)Stats 2)TY 3)Harstem 4)Alive 5)Jjakji 6)Neeb
The hell is this? Herstem...3rd? I believe! Stats and TY both won't lose to anyone else until Stats beats TY in their games. Harstem is looking stronger than Neeb currently and I think will out PvP him. This just leaves Harstem beating both Jjakji and Alive...do I sound crazy yet? Believe my brothers! Honestly, Alive will probably be 3rd in this group but I'll be rooting for Harstem to pull through. =)
Zest is best. Strong protoss that can out PvP and PvZ everybody in this group. Nerchio stands a good chance against Zest but in the end, Zest can get abusive which will get into Nerchio's head. Nerchio can out ZvZ both True & Serral and shouldn't have problem with Pilipili. Patience could out edge True but I think with the current map pool (and the correct map bans!) True should be able to beat Patience. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Patience instead of True for 3rd.
I want to place somebody else at 1st, I really do...but I can't. Innovation is too good to bet against. I'm taking a calculated risk with Mana taking 3rd in this group. It will come down to him and Gumiho but I believe Mana can out edge Gumiho by the slightest of margins. Showtime, as much as he rocks, will unfortunately bomb out of this group. But at least he'll beat uThermal! <3
I think that the MaNa and Harstem predictions make zero sense (Harstem is abysmal at PvT and will get destroyed by all the Ts and MaNa didn't look any good today, at least not good enough for such an unbelievably hard group), but I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
I think you're just too optimistic about harstem. And apparently you have no faith in Uthermal or showtime, I mean it seems that they have a better chance of getting through than harstem (but with dark and inno unlikely that both will). Why would Mana be placed at #3 spot? ;o. I'm right on board for the Neeb fail though, he looks out of place here .
On March 01 2017 07:44 Alarak89 wrote: Hmm...such an easy group for Zest, there is even no Terran in the group at all. Must be ez pz to advance for him.
Well it would have been, but genius Zest forgot his passport and thus missed his flight, meaning he'll only arrive in Katowice about half a day or so before he has to play.
On March 01 2017 07:44 Alarak89 wrote: Hmm...such an easy group for Zest, there is even no Terran in the group at all. Must be ez pz to advance for him.
Well it would have been, but genius Zest forgot his passport and thus missed his flight, meaning he'll only arrive in Katowice about half a day or so before he has to play.
would IEM delay one of the groups if he doesn't arrive in time? His name is on the trophy after all
On March 01 2017 07:44 Alarak89 wrote: Hmm...such an easy group for Zest, there is even no Terran in the group at all. Must be ez pz to advance for him.
Well it would have been, but genius Zest forgot his passport and thus missed his flight, meaning he'll only arrive in Katowice about half a day or so before he has to play.
Arriving half a day before play? Well I think it's OK, although sOs had similar situation in NW and he choked, Zest will not because he is best as the slogan says.
On March 01 2017 07:44 Alarak89 wrote: Hmm...such an easy group for Zest, there is even no Terran in the group at all. Must be ez pz to advance for him.
Well it would have been, but genius Zest forgot his passport and thus missed his flight, meaning he'll only arrive in Katowice about half a day or so before he has to play.
would IEM delay one of the groups if he doesn't arrive in time? His name is on the trophy after all
Would IEM add one extra spot to group stage since sOs didn't have a chance to fly to offline qualifiers? His name is on the trophy after all and he even got 100K with that trophy
On March 01 2017 07:44 Alarak89 wrote: Hmm...such an easy group for Zest, there is even no Terran in the group at all. Must be ez pz to advance for him.
Well it would have been, but genius Zest forgot his passport and thus missed his flight, meaning he'll only arrive in Katowice about half a day or so before he has to play.
would IEM delay one of the groups if he doesn't arrive in time? His name is on the trophy after all
On March 01 2017 07:44 Alarak89 wrote: Hmm...such an easy group for Zest, there is even no Terran in the group at all. Must be ez pz to advance for him.
Well it would have been, but genius Zest forgot his passport and thus missed his flight, meaning he'll only arrive in Katowice about half a day or so before he has to play.
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IEM Season XI - World Championship
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DmC, 
Impact 2-? 
Bunny
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