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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 17 2017 20:20 GMT
#21
On February 18 2017 02:53 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 02:47 Ej_ wrote:
On February 18 2017 02:03 NonY wrote:
On February 18 2017 01:35 CynicalDeath wrote:
On February 17 2017 18:24 Pandemona wrote:
... it's saturday really early remember for us Europeans as GSL wanted to cater for the North Americans that dont watch

...truer words were rarely spoken... I hope that from s2 they switch back to EU timing since the "NA experiment" seems to have been quite a fail tbh...

The only bad thing about it is that Friday night is a popular time to make other plans but I don't see how it's a failure. It's great for me. It's the only one that I can watch live with my sleep schedule. That's exactly what they set out to provide and it provides it.

GSL at NA-friendly times has had lower viewer numbers entire season

How does that affect whether the time is better for NA viewers or not? I feel like we're talking about two different things here. If you've got 5000 viewers who can watch at time Y and 2000 viewers that can watch at time Z, and you want to vary broadcast times so both groups of viewers get to watch some broadcasts live, the success or failure of that is based on whether both groups get to watch live. The viewer count of each particular broadcast is a product of the size of the groups. It's not an indication of whether or not you're succeeding.

GSL knows that there is an optimal time to do their broadcast. They chose to broadcast at varying times so that there's a greater number of people that get to watch a live GSL broadcast. Seeing varying viewer counts is not surprising or indicative of anything except of a fact that they already knew.

I think the success or failure of it is determined by the number of unique people that have watched GSL live this season. If it's higher than it would've been without varying the schedule, then they succeeded.


Yeah sorry i didn't want to start a debate it just said that both of Maru's groups have been at awful times for me so im super salty about it :D
Plus i even more salty when i see the view numbers are around 10-12k for NA and its 15k plus for EU times group which is a midweek! However again it just me venting :D
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 17 2017 20:23 GMT
#22
lets go sOs and Maru
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-17 20:43:43
February 17 2017 20:42 GMT
#23
On February 18 2017 02:59 CynicalDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 02:47 Ej_ wrote:
On February 18 2017 02:03 NonY wrote:
On February 18 2017 01:35 CynicalDeath wrote:
On February 17 2017 18:24 Pandemona wrote:
... it's saturday really early remember for us Europeans as GSL wanted to cater for the North Americans that dont watch

...truer words were rarely spoken... I hope that from s2 they switch back to EU timing since the "NA experiment" seems to have been quite a fail tbh...

The only bad thing about it is that Friday night is a popular time to make other plans but I don't see how it's a failure. It's great for me. It's the only one that I can watch live with my sleep schedule. That's exactly what they set out to provide and it provides it.

GSL at NA-friendly times has had lower viewer numbers entire season

..yep, this and quite a bit lower tbh... ofc I get that my pov is "corrupted" of having difficulties to watch GSL on saturday super early morning and that many NA people can now watch it at a fair time but supporting evidence clearly shows that EU watchers double (and often triple) the NA one and, watching it from a marketing/incoming money/ads stuff pov it can be accounted only as a failed experiment, not a catastrophic one ofc but, imo, not something I'do again if I were in charge...

I would like to see them experiment some more and have a GSL broadcast at an EU friendly time but in the weekend instead of during a workweek.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 17 2017 20:45 GMT
#24
On February 18 2017 05:42 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 02:59 CynicalDeath wrote:
On February 18 2017 02:47 Ej_ wrote:
On February 18 2017 02:03 NonY wrote:
On February 18 2017 01:35 CynicalDeath wrote:
On February 17 2017 18:24 Pandemona wrote:
... it's saturday really early remember for us Europeans as GSL wanted to cater for the North Americans that dont watch

...truer words were rarely spoken... I hope that from s2 they switch back to EU timing since the "NA experiment" seems to have been quite a fail tbh...

The only bad thing about it is that Friday night is a popular time to make other plans but I don't see how it's a failure. It's great for me. It's the only one that I can watch live with my sleep schedule. That's exactly what they set out to provide and it provides it.

GSL at NA-friendly times has had lower viewer numbers entire season

..yep, this and quite a bit lower tbh... ofc I get that my pov is "corrupted" of having difficulties to watch GSL on saturday super early morning and that many NA people can now watch it at a fair time but supporting evidence clearly shows that EU watchers double (and often triple) the NA one and, watching it from a marketing/incoming money/ads stuff pov it can be accounted only as a failed experiment, not a catastrophic one ofc but, imo, not something I'do again if I were in charge...

I would like to see them experiment some more and have a GSL broadcast at an EU friendly time but in the weekend instead of during a workweek.

what time would that be, 5 in the morning in Korea? don't think that would work
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
February 17 2017 20:47 GMT
#25
On February 18 2017 05:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 05:42 Penev wrote:
On February 18 2017 02:59 CynicalDeath wrote:
On February 18 2017 02:47 Ej_ wrote:
On February 18 2017 02:03 NonY wrote:
On February 18 2017 01:35 CynicalDeath wrote:
On February 17 2017 18:24 Pandemona wrote:
... it's saturday really early remember for us Europeans as GSL wanted to cater for the North Americans that dont watch

...truer words were rarely spoken... I hope that from s2 they switch back to EU timing since the "NA experiment" seems to have been quite a fail tbh...

The only bad thing about it is that Friday night is a popular time to make other plans but I don't see how it's a failure. It's great for me. It's the only one that I can watch live with my sleep schedule. That's exactly what they set out to provide and it provides it.

GSL at NA-friendly times has had lower viewer numbers entire season

..yep, this and quite a bit lower tbh... ofc I get that my pov is "corrupted" of having difficulties to watch GSL on saturday super early morning and that many NA people can now watch it at a fair time but supporting evidence clearly shows that EU watchers double (and often triple) the NA one and, watching it from a marketing/incoming money/ads stuff pov it can be accounted only as a failed experiment, not a catastrophic one ofc but, imo, not something I'do again if I were in charge...

I would like to see them experiment some more and have a GSL broadcast at an EU friendly time but in the weekend instead of during a workweek.

what time would that be, 5 in the morning in Korea? don't think that would work

Huh? The same time they broadcast now ofc but on a Saturday instead of a wednesday
I Protoss winner, could it be?
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3425 Posts
February 17 2017 20:49 GMT
#26
11pm on Friday night isnt what I call NA friendly. Sure it s ok for the west coast but still pretty bad for the East coast. 12EU is 6pm korea and 6am east coast (acceptable).

Anyways I hope to see sos vs maru
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egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
February 17 2017 21:45 GMT
#27
(P)sOs 1-2 (T)KeeN
(T)Maru 2-0 (T)Bunny
(T)KeeN 0-2 (T)Maru
(P)sOs 2-1 (T)Bunny
(P)sOs 2-1 (T)KeeN

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sOs TY PartinG
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
February 17 2017 22:17 GMT
#28
Really excited to see what sOs brings to the table. Protoss playing lots of different ways atm.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 17 2017 23:56 GMT
#29
On February 18 2017 02:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 02:03 NonY wrote:
On February 18 2017 01:35 CynicalDeath wrote:
On February 17 2017 18:24 Pandemona wrote:
... it's saturday really early remember for us Europeans as GSL wanted to cater for the North Americans that dont watch

...truer words were rarely spoken... I hope that from s2 they switch back to EU timing since the "NA experiment" seems to have been quite a fail tbh...

The only bad thing about it is that Friday night is a popular time to make other plans but I don't see how it's a failure. It's great for me. It's the only one that I can watch live with my sleep schedule. That's exactly what they set out to provide and it provides it.

GSL at NA-friendly times has had lower viewer numbers entire season

Losing Scarlett's friday night series didn't help.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 18 2017 01:22 GMT
#30
Losing Scarlett's friday night series didn't help.


Not like you can blame Afreeca for that one though.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10100 Posts
February 18 2017 03:59 GMT
#31
la cucaracha!!!!!!!!!!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
February 18 2017 04:02 GMT
#32
On February 18 2017 12:59 Topin wrote:
la cucaracha!!!!!!!!!!

He might be finally eliminated by human being
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
February 18 2017 04:03 GMT
#33
La cucaracha never dies!
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 18 2017 04:11 GMT
#34
Hope for some tight games but hard to see someone other than sOs and Maru advancing personally. Don't mind being proven wrong though.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 18 2017 04:13 GMT
#35
Maru doesn't like TvT, but he's really, really good at it, so yeah.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-18 04:16:50
February 18 2017 04:14 GMT
#36
On February 18 2017 07:17 NonY wrote:
Really excited to see what sOs brings to the table. Protoss playing lots of different ways atm.


Curious to see what his answers are for PvT are considering all the concerns about balance/win rates
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 18 2017 04:26 GMT
#37
Keen scouts sOs's play but sOs seizes back control through some good pickoffs.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 18 2017 04:27 GMT
#38
KeeN messed up that attack. You really need widow mines to protect your tanks.
ruypture
Profile Joined May 2014
United States367 Posts
February 18 2017 04:31 GMT
#39
well i mean, fun game to watch i guess. pretty vanilla.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10100 Posts
February 18 2017 04:31 GMT
#40
manner mule xD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
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