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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 14 2017 12:32 GMT
#341
Lol Maru man handled Scarlett so hard holy crap lol. Lets go maru!
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 14 2017 12:35 GMT
#342
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 14 2017 12:46 GMT
#343
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 14 2017 12:53 GMT
#344
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
January 14 2017 13:03 GMT
#345
Haha did Stephano really 3-0 MLorD? I know he is on OW now but still, a bit shameful. Especially with the taunts from Ilyes about MLorD.
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 13:10:16
January 14 2017 13:08 GMT
#346
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
January 14 2017 13:17 GMT
#347
On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.

Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 14 2017 13:32 GMT
#348
On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.

Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.

Did he say why?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
January 14 2017 13:35 GMT
#349
On January 14 2017 19:46 digmouse wrote:
We are starting an hour later tomorrow, at 11:30pm EST/5:30am CET. Grand finals are scheduled at 9:30am CET.

K thanks, should be able to watch the finals live then
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 13:41:41
January 14 2017 13:41 GMT
#350
On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.

Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.

Did he say why?

delusional foreigner bias
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 14 2017 13:43 GMT
#351
On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.

Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.

Did he say why?


Maru is one of the most agressive terran of all tine. Showtime has shown almost unbreakable defence vs terran harass so it makes sense. Of course if maru prepares properly he should have builds lined up.

Marus still favoured but if he isnt familiar with showtimes style he could lose
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 14 2017 13:45 GMT
#352
Also, nerchio threw that game 5 so badly :D
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
January 14 2017 13:52 GMT
#353
On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.

Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.

Did he say why?

He said ShowTime created the current PvT meta and every other pro has been copying his style.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 13:57:57
January 14 2017 13:56 GMT
#354
On January 14 2017 22:52 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.

Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.

Did he say why?

He said ShowTime created the current PvT meta and every other pro has been copying his style.

yeah the collossus -> disruptor transition was first done by him.

doesn't mean he's good enough at it to beat maru though.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
January 14 2017 13:57 GMT
#355
On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.

Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.

Did he say why?


one of the great oracles of our time does not need to explain himself to the plebeians
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 14:04:28
January 14 2017 14:00 GMT
#356
On January 14 2017 22:52 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.

Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.

Did he say why?

He said ShowTime created the current PvT meta and every other pro has been copying his style.

Aside from the fact that I disagree with that statement...

So? That really doesn't mean anything for his match against Maru. Even if he was the first, that doesn't necessarily mean he's the best now.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
January 14 2017 14:07 GMT
#357
On January 14 2017 23:00 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 22:52 digmouse wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:
On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG

Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.


Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.

I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.

Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.

Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.

Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.

Did he say why?

He said ShowTime created the current PvT meta and every other pro has been copying his style.

Aside from the fact that I disagree with that statement...

So? That really doesn't mean anything for his match against Maru. Even if he was the first, that doesn't necessarily mean he's the best now.

I think he explained something else but I couldn't remember
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 14 2017 14:11 GMT
#358
maru will win because tvp is at 60% right now


skill cant overcome race
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 14 2017 14:22 GMT
#359
On January 14 2017 23:11 Ej_ wrote:
maru will win because tvp is at 60% right now


skill cant overcome race


Well skill wise Maru is above showtime right now anyway. I would favor Maru against any protoss other than stats or sOs
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12377 Posts
January 14 2017 14:22 GMT
#360
Showtime's PvZ is something. I'm not sure what it is, but it's something.

Not a lot of people win that Daybreak game.
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