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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Lol Maru man handled Scarlett so hard holy crap lol. Lets go maru!
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I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG
Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.
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On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all.
Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.
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Haha did Stephano really 3-0 MLorD? I know he is on OW now but still, a bit shameful. Especially with the taunts from Ilyes about MLorD.
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On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again.
I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals.
Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself.
Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.
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On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again. I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals. Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself. Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself.
Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.
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On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again. I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals. Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself. Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself. Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru.
Did he say why?
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On January 14 2017 19:46 digmouse wrote:
We are starting an hour later tomorrow, at 11:30pm EST/5:30am CET. Grand finals are scheduled at 9:30am CET.
K thanks, should be able to watch the finals live then
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On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again. I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals. Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself. Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself. Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru. Did he say why?
delusional foreigner bias
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On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again. I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals. Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself. Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself. Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru. Did he say why?
Maru is one of the most agressive terran of all tine. Showtime has shown almost unbreakable defence vs terran harass so it makes sense. Of course if maru prepares properly he should have builds lined up.
Marus still favoured but if he isnt familiar with showtimes style he could lose
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Also, nerchio threw that game 5 so badly :D
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On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again. I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals. Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself. Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself. Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru. Did he say why?
He said ShowTime created the current PvT meta and every other pro has been copying his style.
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On January 14 2017 22:52 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again. I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals. Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself. Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself. Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru. Did he say why? He said ShowTime created the current PvT meta and every other pro has been copying his style.
yeah the collossus -> disruptor transition was first done by him.
doesn't mean he's good enough at it to beat maru though.
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On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again. I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals. Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself. Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself. Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru. Did he say why?
one of the great oracles of our time does not need to explain himself to the plebeians
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On January 14 2017 22:52 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again. I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals. Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself. Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself. Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru. Did he say why? He said ShowTime created the current PvT meta and every other pro has been copying his style.
Aside from the fact that I disagree with that statement...
So? That really doesn't mean anything for his match against Maru. Even if he was the first, that doesn't necessarily mean he's the best now.
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On January 14 2017 23:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 22:52 digmouse wrote:On January 14 2017 22:32 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 22:17 digmouse wrote:On January 14 2017 22:08 Elentos wrote:On January 14 2017 21:53 ZiggyPG wrote:On January 14 2017 21:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 14 2017 21:35 ZiggyPG wrote:
I wonder if Maru practiced TvT to beat TY in the finals or if we're going to get a repeat of the Asian finals of WESG Maru said before and after his GSL group he "hates" and is "bad" at TvT but then went and dismantled Gumiho 2-0 but who knows i think he doesn't like the matchup at all. Wish I still had enough passion to listen to those pre and post game interviews :d Thanks for the info, though, will have to wait and see. Him defeating Gumi wasn't a big surprise, given the skill disparity between the two. Might be different when Maru has to face TY yet again. I don't think TY really likes TvT after the patch either. It's his worst MU on ladder by quite a margin and he lost 0-2 to Maru in the IEM qualifiers. Although regardless of the score, the games were very even and TY definitely could (should) have one won of them. If those games are any indicator, it could be a really good grand finals. Early game in TvT is quite volatile now, what with reaper grenades, 30 DPS cyclones and auto turrets that 2-shot workers. That and the tankivac removal and I can see why some pros such as TY and Maru wouldn't be big fans of TvT right now. But Maru is also kinda bullshitting imo, he beat TY, ByuN and GuMiho in TvT after the patch, can't feel that bad about himself. Who knows, maybe we get an upset and one of the Protoss players makes it to the finals. Showtime definitely believes in himself. Was talking to the casters after today's matches and PiG said he believes ShowTime will win vs Maru. Did he say why? He said ShowTime created the current PvT meta and every other pro has been copying his style. Aside from the fact that I disagree with that statement... So? That really doesn't mean anything for his match against Maru. Even if he was the first, that doesn't necessarily mean he's the best now.
I think he explained something else but I couldn't remember 
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maru will win because tvp is at 60% right now
skill cant overcome race
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On January 14 2017 23:11 Ej_ wrote:
maru will win because tvp is at 60% right now
skill cant overcome race
Well skill wise Maru is above showtime right now anyway. I would favor Maru against any protoss other than stats or sOs
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Showtime's PvZ is something. I'm not sure what it is, but it's something.
Not a lot of people win that Daybreak game.
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