EPT[IEM XI] Gyeonggi - Day 1 - Page 22
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Elentos
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starkiller123
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DJHelium
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Nice games from Maru, looking solid. | ||
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Elentos
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On December 14 2016 17:24 DJHelium wrote: Good morning, how was jjakji vs Dark? Slaughter? Nice games from Maru, looking solid. jjakji started out really well in both games and did a lot of good things (lots of drop harass damage for example) but as the games went on Dark ended up rolling over him. | ||
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DJHelium
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On December 14 2016 17:26 Elentos wrote: jjakji started out really well in both games and did a lot of good things (lots of drop harass damage for example) but as the games went on Dark ended up rolling over him. Sounds like jjakji alright  Hope he can squeeze out of this group! | ||
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EatingBomber
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On December 14 2016 17:15 Elentos wrote: I really don't like Habitation for Zerg at all because of the terrain. I guess Solar must have vetoed Echo and Vaani (although vs bio I don't think Echo is that bad). The problem is that the location of the critical fourth base for Zerg is very vulnerable, and this combined with the fact that it is quite easy to bounce between the 3rd and the main with Medivacs makes it actually quite hard for Zergs to defend against aggressive, multitask-heavy Terrans. Vaani is quite hard for Zergs to spread creep past the fourth, which, as numerous HotS series showed us (Polt vs Hydra and Bogus vs Life come to mind), can make it impossible to play | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
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ZigguratOfUr
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Elentos
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Charoisaur
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Brutaxilos
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Charoisaur
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Elentos
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On December 14 2016 17:33 Charoisaur wrote: I think classics mistake was not making an oracle. observers just don't cut it vs lurkers, he lost so many units for free because he had no detection and then he had to use his robotics build time for obs instead of immos. Yeah I thought we'd already established months ago that the optimal detection for lurkers is oracles. Then again after the first time he saw lurkers he didn't have much time to get a stargate. | ||
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Ej_
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ZigguratOfUr
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On December 14 2016 17:35 Elentos wrote: Yeah I thought we'd already established months ago that the optimal detection for lurkers is oracles. Then again after the first time he saw lurkers he didn't have much time to get a stargate. He had the time to get 3 robos and power several cycles of immortals, so he could have gotten a stargate and oracles. I think he forgot considering the fact that he stuck to a single observer for so long after the lurkers were out. | ||
Pandemona
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Charoisaur
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On December 14 2016 17:35 Elentos wrote: Yeah I thought we'd already established months ago that the optimal detection for lurkers is oracles. Then again after the first time he saw lurkers he didn't have much time to get a stargate. he could have made a stargate and a robo instead of 2 robos, then make up for it by producing 100% immortals out of his robos instead of obs + immos like he did. | ||
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Elentos
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On December 14 2016 17:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote: He had the time to get 3 robos and power several cycles of immortals, so he could have gotten a stargate and oracles. I think he forgot considering the fact that he stuck to a single observer for so long after the lurkers were out. I remember in HSC there were a bunch of late game PvPs were high level Protoss players died because Patience had a mothership and they only had one observer. I feel like outside of PvT they just don't bother with multiple obs anymore. | ||
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