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On November 05 2016 07:38 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 07:16 Poopi wrote:On November 05 2016 07:11 opisska wrote:On November 05 2016 07:10 Rollora wrote:On November 05 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
Hahaha Neeb got rekt so badly XD.
This feels so fucking good, the Neeb/US/foreign hype, especially by the casters, was so fucking annoying.
:D
The #2 TL Power Rank is down :o.
Rekt? The result says 3-0 but 2 of these three games were total coinflips/cheeses. Everyone can lose to cheese. Maru, Dark, Innovation, sOs (ok not sOs), even God lost to cheese several times. A problem of SC2 is that there is simply too much cheese, you can simply prevent the macro game if you want. Without cheese this would have been a different series, and even Dark knows it. If he was confident, he would have played a macro game Have you seen the fucking games? He got rightfully rekt for being insanely greedy when faced with cheese. His reaction was terrible. The thing that people don't understand is that allins/cheeses aren't some easy guaranteed win. If you overreact to things in sc2 you get screwed in the macro game, so players tend to be as tight as possible defending, so you can still lose to such plays, but it's still very difficult to win and Dark executes these games with ease. Cheesing or playing a macro game when you are equally/better skilled has nothing to do with confidence about your own skill. Thx for pointing that out captain obvious. So execution is part of a strategy? And the part of "not a guaranteed win"... yeah when I see my quote there, i totally said it is a guranteed win by calling it a coinflip stragey...
There is strategy also involved but you probably didn't cheese high level players successfully ever so I'm not sure if you would understand.
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On November 05 2016 07:44 Sent. wrote:
Can you dodge tank shots with medivac micro?
nope
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this series will be crazy
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Dat micro tho...
This series is living up to the hype so far 
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On November 05 2016 07:41 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 07:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 05 2016 07:30 Hider wrote:On November 05 2016 07:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 05 2016 07:23 Hider wrote:On November 05 2016 07:20 Cricketer12 wrote:On November 05 2016 07:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So what is your opinion on the announced blizzcon stuff guys? All the games, etc? pretty underwhelming overall, no sc3,wc4,d4 No updated BW. Could have been cool if done correctly. How would "correctly" look like? No details, just the general idea i guess. Well the goal should be to make a version of the game that koreans would play while also making westerens alot more interested in the game as well. Definitely easier said than done, but I wonder if there is some type of solution that just adresses both target groups. They should definitely work closely with Koreans in the proces though. Yeah makes sense. WHat do you think about having basically two modes. One with all the things sc2 has (unlimited building selection, control groups with unlimited selection, smartcast, etc) and one with original bw mechanics. Matchmaking, etc is a given ofc. I also thought about two modes, but I am not really sure tbh. Also if you stuffs like MBS/unlimited unit selection, then it changes balance quite a lot. That means you have two actually distinct games, and I think its important that the normal playerbase can relate to the esport scene.
Yeah balance would probably change and thus you would likely need to change things. But i think if you communicate it well enough it wouldn't be a big deal to have two somewhat different games tbh. Not the easiest problem to solve though, that's for sure
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On November 05 2016 07:44 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 07:44 Sent. wrote:
Can you dodge tank shots with medivac micro? nope
Could you dodge like marauder or stalker shots (those with travel time) this way? If yes, is that the ultimate AI micro?
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On November 05 2016 07:45 Shellshock wrote:
Byun just lost
if TY pushes yeah, but looks like he's falling back games not over
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On November 05 2016 07:45 Shellshock wrote:
Byun just lost
In this match up anything is possible
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TY is a god, best player in the world
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On November 05 2016 07:46 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 07:44 Jer99 wrote:On November 05 2016 07:44 Sent. wrote:
Can you dodge tank shots with medivac micro? nope Could you dodge like marauder or stalker shots (those with travel time) this way? If yes, is that the ultimate AI micro?
Pros have used medivacs in exactly that way before.
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ByuN will win this game. Calling it.
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On November 05 2016 07:43 usopsama wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 07:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On November 05 2016 07:38 lastride wrote:On November 05 2016 07:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On November 05 2016 07:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On November 05 2016 07:28 Penev wrote:On November 05 2016 07:22 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 07:21 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2016 07:20 Cricketer12 wrote:On November 05 2016 07:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So what is your opinion on the announced blizzcon stuff guys? All the games, etc? pretty underwhelming overall, no sc3,wc4,d4 no bwhd FUCk but we got loot chests/compediums in sc2 now do u even need anything else Blizzard has micro transactions in pay to play games, the worst always online DRM yet everyone just seem to accept it t's weird you know what felt weird to me? playing 3845738923423427 games of 1v1 and 2v2 Brood War for $20 and Blizzard never ever asking for another nickel. that was weird. You're lucky. My CDs got worn out, so I paid Blizzard more money for Brood War than I did for SC2. haha same here. I have bought at least 8 bw's and a couple of cd roms. Good times!! Honestly it felt disappointing that the CD for LotV was useless since it needed a 10gig patch anyway Rip CD era My home has no CD-rom drive anywhere. Not on my custom PC, nor laptop. I have no blu-ray player. I was given a free music CD recently and I don't know how to listen to it.
hehe i have like 5 things that can play them
Just a good feeling to put on an album by using a disk
But yeah haven't used the CD player in my laptop more than twice I think
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On November 05 2016 07:46 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 07:44 Jer99 wrote:On November 05 2016 07:44 Sent. wrote:
Can you dodge tank shots with medivac micro? nope Could you dodge like marauder or stalker shots (those with travel time) this way? If yes, is that the ultimate AI micro?
Yes. And you could technically avoid tank shots by not letting the tank shoot at all by abusing the swivel speed of the turret I think.
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On November 05 2016 07:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 07:41 Hider wrote:On November 05 2016 07:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 05 2016 07:30 Hider wrote:On November 05 2016 07:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 05 2016 07:23 Hider wrote:On November 05 2016 07:20 Cricketer12 wrote:On November 05 2016 07:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So what is your opinion on the announced blizzcon stuff guys? All the games, etc? pretty underwhelming overall, no sc3,wc4,d4 No updated BW. Could have been cool if done correctly. How would "correctly" look like? No details, just the general idea i guess. Well the goal should be to make a version of the game that koreans would play while also making westerens alot more interested in the game as well. Definitely easier said than done, but I wonder if there is some type of solution that just adresses both target groups. They should definitely work closely with Koreans in the proces though. Yeah makes sense. WHat do you think about having basically two modes. One with all the things sc2 has (unlimited building selection, control groups with unlimited selection, smartcast, etc) and one with original bw mechanics. Matchmaking, etc is a given ofc. I also thought about two modes, but I am not really sure tbh. Also if you stuffs like MBS/unlimited unit selection, then it changes balance quite a lot. That means you have two actually distinct games, and I think its important that the normal playerbase can relate to the esport scene. Yeah balance would probably change and thus you would likely need to change things. But i think if you communicate it well enough it wouldn't be a big deal to have two somewhat different games tbh. Not the easiest problem to solve though, that's for sure
Well but if you have a different balance for one game, then the normal playerbase can't copy builds from the esport scene and be inspired by them (to the same degre). In my opinion one of the best parts of Sc2 is that I as a player can learn while watching the game. You can be motivated by the top players because you play the same game as them and you see some impressive shit.
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