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IEM XI Shanghai
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_XI_-_Shanghai
Casters & Hosts
Streams
Format
- Single Elimination Bracket
- Each Game Best of 5 Until Bo7 Finals!
- 4 Day Lan
- Pro League Round 3 Final
[IEM XI] Shanghai Grand Finals
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
 Neeb 4 - 0  uThermalI wasn't impressed by uthermal in his games and i really want to see an undefeated run to the championship. | ||
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Radicalness
United States271 Posts
That said, this tournament run by Neeb has been so incredible. Has there been an undefeated tournament run since TaeJa did in it in a Dreamhack in 2014? (forget which one it was) | ||
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Ej_
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On July 30 2016 21:08 Ej_ wrote: I want uThermal to win, just because he didn't even qualify for this. And if he wins he's going to have a Progamer tag on TL too. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 21:08 Ej_ wrote: I want uThermal to win, just because he didn't even qualify for this. will he get honorary Danish citizenship for that? | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On July 30 2016 21:03 Radicalness wrote: I voted Neeb, but with his collapse against MarineLord fresh in my mind, I honestly wouldn't be surprised either way. That said, this tournament run by Neeb has been so incredible. Has there been an undefeated tournament run since TaeJa did in it in a Dreamhack in 2014? (forget which one it was) $o$ won MSI last year without losing a single game after group stage. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 30 2016 22:55 Alarak89 wrote: $o$ won MSI last year without losing a single game after group stage. Which means it isn't an undefeated run  That tourney was mostly BO3's too which is less impressive. But then this one is also only 4 matches so it wouldn't compare either. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Deathstar
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On July 30 2016 23:04 Phredxor wrote: Which means it isn't an undefeated run That tourney was mostly BO3's too which is less impressive. But then this one is also only 4 matches so it wouldn't compare either. Well, the question is if there was a undefeated tournament run like taeja did, so we are talking about existence, not quality, right? | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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Penev
28481 Posts
Head: Neeb | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Except MVP. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On July 30 2016 21:57 Aeromi wrote: And if he wins he's going to have a Progamer tag on TL too. Shouldn't he have one anyway? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 30 2016 23:34 Alarak89 wrote: Well, the question is if there was a undefeated tournament run like taeja did, so we are talking about existence, not quality, right? yea and sOs' run doesn't exist because he dropped maps, how is this still a discussion... | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 00:57 RKC wrote: No one, of course, can compare to Taeja. Except Mvp FTFY, it's a very important distinction | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On July 30 2016 22:52 Shellshock wrote: will he get honorary Danish citizenship for that? ^^ heart : uThermal for the story of one hell of an opportunistic run, though Neeb at last living up to the hype would be pretty good too. head : torn. Should we believe Neeb when he said he played on his normal level vs Mlord ? I'd say definitely no. So yeah, I think Neeb takes it 4-2. | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On July 31 2016 01:09 Cricketer12 wrote: yea and sOs' run doesn't exist because he dropped maps, how is this still a discussion... My bad, I mean his run exists at playoffs stage, satisfied now? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 02:40 Alarak89 wrote: My bad, I mean his run exists at playoffs stage, satisfied now? not really, the discussion is about making flawless runs of the tournament. sOs' run only covered half that. | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On July 31 2016 03:04 Cricketer12 wrote: not really, the discussion is about making flawless runs of the tournament. sOs' run only covered half that. But that half is much more important the "the other half" | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 03:17 Alarak89 wrote: But that half is much more important the "the other half" You are the sOs fanboy right? And no that other half is not more important for it being an undefeated tournament run. It either is one or it's not. Not losing a map to viOLet, Innovation and Solar is surely impressive on its own though, we can agree on that  | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On July 31 2016 03:17 Alarak89 wrote: But that half is much more important the "the other half" if # maps dropped > 0, nothing to discuss. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
Sup | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
You argued against him, he surely is the bigger fanboy | ||
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Kashim
Poland1209 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 04:03 The_Red_Viper wrote: You argued against him, he surely is the bigger fanboy fanboy does not necessarily have to equate to blind love and dumb claims unworthy of discussion | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 04:33 Cricketer12 wrote: fanboy does not necessarily have to equate to blind love and dumb claims unworthy of discussion If people would be reasonable i would agree with you, hehe. But sure i respect you as the #1 sOs fan here  I will never forget what he did to JD though -.- | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 04:39 The_Red_Viper wrote: If people would be reasonable i would agree with you, hehe. But sure i respect you as the #1 sOs fan here I will never forget what he did to JD though -.- Nor will I, it was pretty glorious seeing all those people who had no idea who sOs was. | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On July 31 2016 03:47 The_Red_Viper wrote: You are the sOs fanboy right? And no that other half is not more important for it being an undefeated tournament run. It either is one or it's not. Not losing a map to viOLet, Innovation and Solar is surely impressive on its own though, we can agree on that I mean I don't care if the run was "impressive" or not, but there is no big difference between dropping one map on earlier stage and dropping no map, so I'm just offering some suggestions to him, unless you can find another premier event with dropping maps less than or equal to one. | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
Well, that was not a "discussion", that was a "suggestion". Because only dropping one map in a premier event is also very rare, right? Maybe you can tell me another example with some top Korean players in the participating list? | ||
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Andamanen
Netherlands915 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 05:05 Alarak89 wrote: Well, that was not a "discussion", that was a "suggestion". Because only dropping one map in a premier event is also very rare, right? Maybe you can tell me another example with some top Korean players in the participating list? sOs in his MSI won 7 maps in a row Life won 8 maps in a row during his royal road in GSL. That was the first and only player I had to check. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Global_StarCraft_II_League_July/Code_S Taeja can't compare to that | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 05:20 Ej_ wrote: sOs in his MSI won 7 maps in a row Life won 8 maps in a row during his royal road in GSL. That was the first and only player I had to check. That's actually not true | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
He does not want one until he wins a Premier tournament. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
Question, is he qualifying for blizzcon? I would like to see him make it there. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 05:26 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Neeb is definitely a strong player, and his pvt is impressive. He has yet to prove himself against echelon Korean players, but definitely one of the strongest amongst foreigners. Question, is he qualifying for blizzcon? I would like to see him make it there. Neeb is currently is in a solid 6th (5th if he wins). uThermal though is in a bit more of a scary spot (he's currently at 11th, and remains that way even if he wins). | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On July 31 2016 05:20 Ej_ wrote: sOs in his MSI won 7 maps in a row Life won 8 maps in a row during his royal road in GSL. That was the first and only player I had to check. I guess the point is how many maps he lost during the entire tournament, not how many maps he won in a row. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
3 versus MarineKing, 3 versus Taeja, 2 versus Mvp | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 05:42 Ej_ wrote: 3 versus MarineKing, 3 versus Taeja, 2 versus Mvp Damn nvm i didn't check the end of the run. You got me there! The thing is though, do we really count simply wins in succession or is it kinda important to not lose any map to the players while doing so? But yeah your statement was right | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
First USA IEM since I belive Idra in 2011? First undefeated tournament in a while too. Head: Neeb... But I've been wrong before. | ||
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XPA
Germany242 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
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XPA
Germany242 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:03 fezvez wrote: Where it the english stream? https://www.twitch.tv/esl_sc2 | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:02 GumBa wrote: I was told I would see the best starcraft on the planet here. Am I in the right place? No that's in a few hours | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:02 GumBa wrote: I was told I would see the best starcraft on the planet here. Am I in the right place? sOs is in 3 hours, sorry bud. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:02 GumBa wrote: I was told I would see the best starcraft on the planet here. Am I in the right place? no | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12177 Posts
Or watch Neeb win his first tournament. Those were my choices. And this is where I am. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:02 GumBa wrote: I was told I would see the best starcraft on the planet here. Am I in the right place? ABSOLUTELY | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Yeah in like 9 hours | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
Poor nonkoreans -_- | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Stephano and Nerchio showed wcs > kespa in shoutcraft KotH therefore this is the best finals FACT | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
real tears in a few hours, you mean | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 09:58 XPA wrote: Staying awake for this, then sleeping like on an hour or so before getting up for proleague. and that after partying yesterday until 7am. Passion is real :D Let's wait until you wake up to PL before confirming the passion. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:10 Cricketer12 wrote: btw who is casting PL? Wolf and Tasteless, probably | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:10 Cricketer12 wrote: btw who is casting PL? I'd guess Valdez and the WCS casters rotating in | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
Afaik only Spicy Salmon is here. It'd be weird to have Tasteless and Wolf here doing nothing but one series and not participate in WCS stuff | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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messioso
Denmark635 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Nathanias tweeted he was gonna cast it at least Spicy Salmon Memes incoming? | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
goooooo | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:13 Parrek wrote: Afaik only Spicy Salmon is here. It'd be weird to have Tasteless and Wolf here doing nothing but one series and not participate in WCS stuff hmmm, haven't even thought of that | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Nathanias tweeted he was gonna cast it at least aw, well we can't win them all | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On the right, uThermal, a guy who didn't qualify for this, but 3rax reapered 3 zergs in a row, fighting for memes. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:20 The_Red_Viper wrote: chobra got chubby it's sad that you mistake MC for Chobra | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:23 Ej_ wrote: On the left, Neeb, the new hope of NA, one of the best foreigners, the Protoss hope, fighting for a perfect run and his first offline championship. On the right, uThermal, a guy who didn't qualify for this, but 3rax reapered 3 zergs in a row, fighting for memes. I like the uThermal guy already. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:22 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: uThermal is also young damn he's only 20? he's been around for fucking ever | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:24 Cricketer12 wrote: damn he's only 20? he's been around for fucking ever It's funny because I also just discovered that 30 minutes ago. I thought he was like 23-24 or something like that. The "Demuslim hair" also makes him look older. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Didn't know MC is hosting events | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
he's learnign the ropes before the imminent disband of CJ Entus | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:26 Ej_ wrote: he's learnign the ropes before the imminent disband of CJ Entus who gets herO? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
EG | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:23 Ej_ wrote: On the left, Neeb, the new hope of NA, one of the best foreigners, the Protoss fleet beacon of light, fighting for a perfect run and his first offline championship. On the right, uThermal, a guy who didn't qualify for this, but 3rax reapered 3 zergs in a row, fighting for memes. uThermal will be blessed by the Light of TaeJa to deny that filthy protoss joining Him in the Pantheon of Perfection | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Prison | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
We'll bite the bullet and take him. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
afreeca, the streaming service not the team | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:26 Ej_ wrote: he's learnign the ropes before the imminent disband of CJ Entus MC ate CJ into bankruptcy | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:27 Noonius wrote: uThermal will be blessed by the Light of NesTeato deny that filthy protoss joining Him in the Pantheon of Perfection FTFY | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:29 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: What is the other tournament? ;o NSL International http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NEO_Star_League_2016_Season_1/International Also has Parting, shocking enough | ||
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Ej_
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:31 GumBa wrote: Did the crowd think this is LoL or why are they there? These are the millions of Chinese fans that I've been hearing about all these years. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:31 GumBa wrote: Did the crowd think this is LoL or why are they there? free swag | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:31 Ej_ wrote: These are the millions of Chinese fans that I've been hearing about all these years. we should region lock foreigners out of china so they dont lose their passion. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:32 stuchiu wrote: we should region lock foreigners out of china so they dont lose their passion. It's too late, Nerchio, Showtime and Neeb already killed it. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: NSL International http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NEO_Star_League_2016_Season_1/International Also has Parting, shocking enough and Has! holy shit this tournament looks fun | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:33 LongShot27 wrote: the stream numbers are abysmal, crap. it's like 4 AM in EU | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:33 LongShot27 wrote: the stream numbers are abysmal, crap. I'm sure there's like 100k people watching on Douyu /s | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
gogo Neeb | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:34 Hider wrote: Where does uthermal being danish meme come from? What meme, it's just sports history analogy. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: NSL International http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NEO_Star_League_2016_Season_1/International Also has Parting, shocking enough wow pretty sick, so uThermal can win 2 in a row | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
I watch proleague at 5AM every day. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:33 LongShot27 wrote: the stream numbers are abysmal, crap. Well, this is the first foreigner finals I've watched since WoL... | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:35 Alchemik wrote: I just played against mech, so my hate for Terran has immediately multiplied gogo Neeb I didn't know there existed mech players past Platinum 1. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:35 Ej_ wrote: I didn't know there existed mech players past Platinum 1. mech is good | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:33 LongShot27 wrote: the stream numbers are abysmal, crap. this is just a warm-up showmatch as a set up for the PL finals so of course viewer numbers are low. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
back in our day you had to wake up at 1am and walk up and down the hill and use the shitty gomplayer to watch legalmind vs bonsbons at 2am | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Clearly you have more passion than those weak Europeans. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:35 Ej_ wrote: I didn't know there existed mech players past Platinum 1. this is what you do when you want to humiliate an inferior player | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:37 stuchiu wrote: back in our day you had to wake up at 1am and walk up and down the hill and use the shitty gomplayer to watch legalmind vs bonsbons at 2am And it's worth pointing out that the quality of that gomplayer was so bad so you could not even see the supply count of the players. It was 240P quality at best. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:37 Alchemik wrote: uThermal trying to imitate Miszu, didn't work as well though Needs to pray to Jarek now. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:37 stuchiu wrote: back in our day you had to wake up at 1am and walk up and down the hill and use the shitty gomplayer to watch legalmind vs bonsbons at 2am I had a great summer job once where my best friend and I were basically paid to work a graveyard shift consisting mostly of watching Brood War GSL games live. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:38 Charoisaur wrote: this is what you do when you want to humiliate an inferior player pretty decent bait | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:38 Hider wrote: And it's worth pointing out that the quality of that gomplayer was so bad so you could not even see the supply count of the players. It was 240P quality at best. Which only increased the suspense and thus the enjoyment! | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:40 The_Red_Viper wrote: Which only increased the suspense and thus the enjoyment! more people watched cause it looked like BW | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
1-0 3 more to go | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:40 The_Red_Viper wrote: Which only increased the suspense and thus the enjoyment! I'm open to the argument that less information is better for the viewing experience | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:41 Phredxor wrote: Neeb can die Nate. Neeb can die. he is a nice young boy STOPPIT TT | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
I'm very scared that this will be exactly like the Marinelord series ;( | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:40 The_Red_Viper wrote: Which only increased the suspense and thus the enjoyment! At least you could squint and guess unlike ASL... | ||
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Kovzirg
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coolprogrammingstuff
906 Posts
no, the best part was hearing the troll interview question names. i remember when they canned it because of the "exterminatealljuice" name. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:42 Deathstar wrote: I'm open to the argument that less information is better for the viewing experience this discussion is how you figure out who watches BW and who doesn't | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:42 Cricketer12 wrote: TaeJa and NesTea breathe a sigh of relief nestea and TaeJa got their undefeated runs against actual good players. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:44 Charoisaur wrote: nestea and TaeJa got their undefeated runs against actual good players. Nestea showed Ensnare who was the boss. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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On July 31 2016 10:42 Deathstar wrote: I'm open to the argument that less information is better for the viewing experience I actually think so tbh. Maybe not without any supply but sc2 has too much imo. Probably the wrong place to discuss this though :D I hope we get 7 games, the less waiting time between IEM and proleague the better | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:44 Charoisaur wrote: nestea and TaeJa got their undefeated runs against actual good players. Prebs and MorroW were indeed fearsome opponents | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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United States13974 Posts
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coolprogrammingstuff
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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United States6700 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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VengefulTree
Canada637 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:49 Phredxor wrote: Nice to see foreigners converting to the church of inca. 1 MORE POST 1 MORE POST 1 MORE POST | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:49 Noonius wrote: this is why people hate fucking protoss no mouth | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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On July 31 2016 10:49 Noonius wrote: this is why people hate fucking protoss | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
how can you scout a no upgrade TC and not immediately get an ebay and bank scans | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:49 Noonius wrote: this is why people hate fucking protoss but widow mines and libs are pure skill and loved by everyone /s | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
GET HYPE | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Neeb comes back from a tilt inducing game with a tilt inducing game of his own Yeah... not too awe inspiring at this point. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:50 VengefulTree wrote: Game of the year right there Yes amazing game. I mean if David Kim didn't think this type of game was amazing, he surely wouldn't have reverted the ebay-requirement removal to produce turrets. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Neeb comes back from a tilt inducing game with a tilt inducing game of his own out-tilting each other | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
SACRIFICE YOUR TEN THOUSANDTH POST TO BASED GOD NEEB | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:51 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Yeah... not too awe inspiring at this point. maybe they just wanted it to be as good as a classic gsl final. | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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On July 31 2016 10:50 OsaX Nymloth wrote: but widow mines and libs are pure skill and loved by everyone /s actually got to press e and time your burrows though. plus depends on build, rather than "fuck i hope he just muled!" | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:51 Hider wrote: Yes amazing game. I mean if David Kim didn't think this type of game was amazing, he surely wouldn't have reverted the ebay-requirement removal to produce turrets. exciting moment right there | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:51 Hider wrote: Yes amazing game. I mean if David Kim didn't think this type of game was amazing, he surely wouldn't have reverted the ebay-requirement removal to produce turrets. now that i think of it, what is even the goddamn point of having that requirement? its ludicrous | ||
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usopsama
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On July 31 2016 10:49 Noonius wrote: this is why people hate fucking protoss | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:51 Hider wrote: Yes amazing game. I mean if David Kim didn't think this type of game was amazing, he surely wouldn't have reverted the ebay-requirement removal to produce turrets. its not overpowered if its fun | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Also USA USA USA USA! | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:53 Sif_ wrote: now that i think of it, what is even the goddamn point of having that requirement? its ludicrous because BW has the same requirement? | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
I mean I had fun that game | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:53 Phredxor wrote: I hope Maru gets crushed into retirement today. Also USA USA USA USA! sick cattlebruiser bud | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
why does a spine crawler require a spawning pool why do cannons require a forge ?! | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
discussion settled | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:53 Sif_ wrote: now that i think of it, what is even the goddamn point of having that requirement? its ludicrous to create more exciting moments. "having no detection and losing to DTs is not gimmicky, it's just starcraft" -DK | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:53 Sif_ wrote: now that i think of it, what is even the goddamn point of having that requirement? its ludicrous So we can have build-order losses in the game because rock-scissor-paper is so fun. Or to be fair, without that requirement banshee's and oracle openings would also be unviable. But surely you could tweak various stuff to make that viable. | ||
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babyrage
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this why terrans should hate themselves. being super greedy and send a 2nd drop and not realizing the protoss isn't upgrading in his twilight council and throw mules... 100% deserved lose | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:54 las91 wrote: why does a spine crawler require a spawning pool why do cannons require a forge ?! because BW has the same requirement? | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:54 las91 wrote: why does a spine crawler require a spawning pool why do cannons require a forge ?! really? | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:55 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: All the races have a tech requirement to detection, right? Zerg even needs a drone, fucking joke | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
yea i know sarcasm in the internet | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:55 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: All the races have a tech requirement to detection, right? in sc2 yes they do | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:55 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: All the races have a tech requirement to detection, right? spores only require a spawning pool | ||
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Deathstar
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On July 31 2016 10:53 Phredxor wrote: I hope Maru gets crushed into retirement today. Also USA USA USA USA! What a waste. Maru will manhandle whoever he plays against. This is a given. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:53 Ej_ wrote: the best part about DT drops is Terran tears thats the second best. The best is the prayer to inca. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:54 Hider wrote: So we can have build-order losses in the game because rock-scissor-paper is so fun. Or to be fair, without that requirement banshee's and oracle openings would also be unviable. But surely you could tweak various stuff to make that viable. "Build-order loss" should only be applied to situations where players have to make the game-deciding decisions before the opportunity to scout the opponent's tech. | ||
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Noonius
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Ej_
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On July 31 2016 10:57 Noonius wrote: we need a petition to have hi-sec to be baseline. It hurts to see oracles surviving with just one hit away avilo drooling somewhere | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:56 Deathstar wrote: What a waste. Maru will manhandle whoever he plays against. This is a given. hahahaaaaa, he's in a foreign land now. He will lose | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:56 Deathstar wrote: What a waste. Maru will manhandle whoever he plays against. This is a given. I see you too ignore his record against Zest. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:57 Noonius wrote: we need a petition to have hi-sec to be baseline. It hurts to see oracles surviving with just one hit away I remember one tournament accidentally hosted a game on a modded map that had infinite range missile turrets lol | ||
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47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:59 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: I feel ya, Neeb, I accidentally killed my own muta earlier tonight. oh god I used to do that so often | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: "Build-order loss" should only be applied to situations where players have to make the game-deciding decisions before the opportunity to scout the opponent's tech. Nah that definition doesn't really make sense becasue there are always ways you hypotehtically could have scouted and thus reacted. Instead, the proper definition of build order losses is a loss in the early game and not related to execution/mechanics. And there is no other real sport or esport where this phenomena exist to as extreme degree as in Starcraft. It would be pretty easy to almost get rid of it/minimize it if it was a priority of David Kim, but it appears he loves these types of "different" games. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: oh the mine bait attack so sick the splits were real tho! | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
I once accidentally killed my last building in a game I was about to win | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:01 Alchemik wrote: I once accidentally killed my last building in a game I was about to win Well you win now. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:59 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I remember one tournament accidentally hosted a game on a modded map that had infinite range missile turrets lol RIP ATC | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
gold was fun | ||
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Brazil3106 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:01 Alchemik wrote: I once accidentally killed my last building in a game I was about to win I bet your opponent was confused. | ||
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Shellshock
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 10:59 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I remember one tournament accidentally hosted a game on a modded map that had infinite range missile turrets lol that was brilliant | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:01 Shellshock wrote: "adepts are good" - Neeb 2016 | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:00 Hider wrote: Nah that definition doesn't really make sense becasue there are always ways you hypotehtically could have scouted and thus reacted. Instead, the proper definition of build order losses is a loss in the early game and not related to execution/mechanics. Scouting is execution / mechanics. So is applying the right counter based on your scout (such as seeing that the Twilight isn't upgrading, seeing how many units Protoss has / where they are). | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Ej_
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On July 31 2016 11:02 Alchemik wrote: did Nate just say "fleet bacon" apparently he forgot what the building is actually called | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:02 Alchemik wrote: did Nate just say "fleet bacon" NOICE | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:03 Noonius wrote: did he just lose like 7 marines on that bridge to a disruptor ball? he must have looked away cause he could have easily picked everything up | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:03 Ej_ wrote: apparently he forgot what the building is actually called or bacon is the only thing on his mind :x | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:03 Ej_ wrote: apparently he forgot what the building is actually called and resorted to his patriotism for help? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:02 Alchemik wrote: did Nate just say "fleet bacon" The man lives and breathes memes so yes | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Nothing wrong with that. | ||
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Ej_
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to the one thing that had never let him down: the memes | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Noonius
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
Wow. Is that a prank map or is there a point to existing that I don't get? And why is there a turret not firing at the Banshee at one point? | ||
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Ej_
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On July 31 2016 11:05 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I love how you guys found 2 different situations of infinite range turrets haha I also seem to remember ESL Star Station that had zealots equipped with storm | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:05 Charoisaur wrote: gg units are out plating is not do... wait | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Hope uThermal doesn't tilt now | ||
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Brazil3106 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Hmm wp by Neeb Hope uThermal doesn't tilt now does it matter tho? :x | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:07 Sif_ wrote: give us decent t3 please david but BCs TELEPORT now | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:07 Phredxor wrote: 2 more wins til Neeb is literally as good as sOs. N$$B? | ||
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New Zealand15076 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
holy shit, forgot that was a thing | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
N££B. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
now they can be useless in 2 places at once | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
I'm sure he'd rather be N$$B lul | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
||//||338 is 1337 | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
BCs are the opposite of adepts, just now realized | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
hmm...only problem with this is that he is american... | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
Any good uses of it in a pro match? I haven't seen BCs yet... | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:11 Alchemik wrote: BCs are the opposite of adepts, just now realized schrodingers BCs | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:14 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Any good uses of it in a pro match? I haven't seen BCs yet... havent seen it since beta archon showmatches, so no. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:14 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Any good uses of it in a pro match? I haven't seen BCs yet... you can teleport them on top of tempests to negate the range advantage. there's nothing the protoss can do vs it it's completely broken | ||
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:16 GumBa wrote: Uthermal got a map? the first one... gumba are you even watching? | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:14 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Any good uses of it in a pro match? I haven't seen BCs yet... I have seen avilo losing to mass BCs on stream when he offraced as zerg. avilo had the superior army but the terran killed all his bases with teleporting BCs and avilo couldn't remax anymore. the tears were glorious. | ||
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Deathstar
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GumBa
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:17 Cricketer12 wrote: the first one... gumba are you even watching? I went to do something | ||
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Iceland153 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:17 Charoisaur wrote: I have seen avilo losing to mass BCs on stream when he offraced as zerg. avilo had the superior army but the terran killed all his bases with teleporting BCs and avilo couldn't remax anymore. the tears were glorious. So is there no range limitation to the warp? And how long does it take to build up 125 energy? I don't own LotV yet. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
edit: okay I see | ||
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Ej_
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On July 31 2016 11:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: ugh that was a total failure UNEXPECTEDLY | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: love the cloak banshees omg just love em | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: So is there no range limitation to the warp? And how long does it take to build up 125 energy? I don't own LotV yet. no range limitation, no vision required. | ||
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Nebuchad
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:20 GumBa wrote: Banshees vs protoss? What year is it? picked the wrong terran to model his game after. must have been accidentally watching 2012 marineking instead of literally 2016 anyone else | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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saurusaurus
Australia21 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Deathstar
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So what happened in the first three games? Neeb handed a game to uthermy, then DTs happened G2, then macro game into GGpest in G3 | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:21 Deathstar wrote: sad that a suicidal oracle got more done than 2 clock banshees well, banshees suck in tvp | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:21 Deathstar wrote: sad that a suicidal oracle got more done than 2 clock banshees sad that an unscouted PROXY cloak banshee killed 5 probes...last game we saw what happened | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:21 saurusaurus wrote: Hmm.. sadtimes... I was refreshing TL home page every 15 minutes ready to tune in to finals when they started.. the lack of live english stream indicated to me that it hadn't started yet.. but its already half done :/ probably plenty of other people like me, resulting in lower viewer numbers... TL doesn't really give many viewers for an event such as IEM | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So what happened in the first three games? g1: neeb didnt do enough with blink on frost g2: dt rush on galactic g3: late game win with tempest and disruptor on gettysburg | ||
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Shellshock
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Germany15961 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:24 GumBa wrote: Dustin Browder strikes again Sorry, but can someone explain? Did he say something about Liberators recently? | ||
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New Zealand15076 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Alchemik
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Deathstar
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coolprogrammingstuff
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:25 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Sorry, but can someone explain? Did he say something about Liberators recently? Not likely. Rocks. It's all about the rocks. | ||
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France2262 Posts
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las91
United States5080 Posts
wait | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:25 Alchemik wrote: cheese completely failed, still wins, disgusting Well when you get played that afterwords it'll happen | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:25 Alchemik wrote: cheese completely failed, still wins, disgusting Not nearly as disgusting as mass adepts. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:25 GumBa wrote: Neeb went full NA you can take the player out of NA but you can't take the NA out of the player | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:25 Charoisaur wrote: might we see a foreign terran champ?? HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA | ||
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On July 31 2016 11:25 Alchemik wrote: cheese completely failed, still wins, disgusting terran is retarded... 1 mistake and u lose to amoved bio, good job david kim i hope the medivac pickups were exciting | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
Which terran players in the world (incl koreans) would you say definitely has better unit control (micro + multitasking) than Uthermal (if roughly on par w/ each uThermal then they don't count). | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:25 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Sorry, but can someone explain? Did he say something about Liberators recently? It's a meme. They designed the destructable rocks when Dustin was the game director Then this gif immortalised the relation between dustin and the rocks ![[image loading]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/3816684_o.gif) | ||
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On July 31 2016 11:27 Shellshock wrote: the good news is we are confirmed to play on Dasan Station The great news is the standard TvP on that map is proxy factory lifted to opponent's main | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:26 Ej_ wrote: terran is retarded... 1 mistake and u lose to amoved bio, good job david kim i hope the medivac pickups were exciting despite the weird build and poor execution, uthermals CC was on par with neebs natural | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:25 las91 wrote: if only he had a stargate to build void rays wait Why would he ever want to build void rays. They get shredded by marines, and are too slow to micro away. To be fair his phoenixes also got shredded, but that was due to lack of micro rather than impossibility of micro. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:26 Ej_ wrote: terran is retarded... 1 mistake and u lose to amoved bio, good job david kim i hope the medivac pickups were exciting Yeah. Goddam terrans. No wonder they win every foreign tournament. Wait... | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:27 Hider wrote: So here is a question that I would like to hear other peoples opinion on. Which terran players in the world would you say definitely has better unit control (micro + multitasking) than Uthermal (if roughly on par w/ each uThermal then they don't count). None. He is in the finals. | ||
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Deathstar
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mass adepts are pure skill | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:27 Hider wrote: So here is a question that I would like to hear other peoples opinion on. Which terran players in the world would you say definitely has better unit control (micro + multitasking) than Uthermal (if roughly on par w/ each uThermal then they don't count). Uzikoti | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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On July 31 2016 11:27 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: It's a meme. They designed the destructable rocks when Dustin was the game director Then this gif immortalised the relation between dustin and the rocks not just, there was a lot of criticism for the rocks on maps like blistering sands and other maps where it was a crucial point and could decide life/death because of the alinness of early WoL. He was the one that kept putting them in, and an adamant defender of them despite all the criticism everybody gave them. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
including koreans. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Ok then. Uzikoti and Speed | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
What's that? | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:27 Hider wrote: So here is a question that I would like to hear other peoples opinion on. Which terran players in the world would you say definitely has better unit control (micro + multitasking) than Uthermal (if roughly on par w/ each uThermal then they don't count). Maru | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
and my ladder mech opponents | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:27 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: It's a meme. They designed the destructable rocks when Dustin was the game director Then this gif immortalised the relation between dustin and the rocks ... I don't get it but thanks! | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
The people Shura wrecks on the ladder with her offrace. | ||
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United States97276 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:29 Ej_ wrote: The people Shura wrecks on the ladder with her offrace. No wonder they didnt make it to this event. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
KeSPAevryday. | ||
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United States5080 Posts
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On July 31 2016 11:29 Shellshock wrote: more proxies boys P R E P A R A T I O N | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:24 GumBa wrote: Dustin Browder strikes again he does kinda look like palpatine if you take away the beard ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LaCSN9L.jpg) | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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check my post - it's poking fun at the fact he's getting excited at rocks getting shot at, because he was just in love with the bloody things despite everybody else hating it. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
I'm getting MLORD flashbacks | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
Boxer | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:30 moon1ight wrote: he does kinda look like palpatine if you take away the beard Yikes. Not a good look for him. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
MGOD | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
meemories | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:27 Hider wrote: So here is a question that I would like to hear other peoples opinion on. Which terran players in the world (incl koreans) would you say definitely has better unit control (micro + multitasking) than Uthermal (if roughly on par w/ each uThermal then they don't count). Any korean terran who is relevant atm i think. Foreigners? No idea | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:32 The_Red_Viper wrote: Any korean terran who is relevant atm i think. Foreigners? No idea No korean terrans are relevant or do you see them at WORLD CHAMPION events? | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:32 The_Red_Viper wrote: Any korean terran who is relevant atm i think. Foreigners? No idea mlord is probably even | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Deathstar
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
best part is DA at the beginning | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:32 The_Red_Viper wrote: Any korean terran who is relevant atm i think. Foreigners? No idea who is relevant? | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Deathstar
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
This is so sad. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Yeah probably. I just don't watch a lot of foreigner craft tbh so it's hard to tell | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Ansibled
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:34 Solar424 wrote: Liberators are such a fair unit I mean, Valkyries should have been able to hit ground, right? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Need! You're failing America! D: he's fulfilling his duty | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Deathstar
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
pretty sure every Terran is relevant atm | ||
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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coolprogrammingstuff
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Deathstar
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
yea! like jjakji! | ||
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Estonia17413 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Ej_
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On July 31 2016 11:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote: This is how all my PvTs go on King Sejong Station. I no longer had to veto Endion and Dusk Towers so I moved the vetoes to Frozen and KSS. Call me a patchzerg. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:36 Charoisaur wrote: is Neeb choking or just bad at pvt? sure looks like both honestly | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
he beat INnoVation... who isn't relevant atm btw | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:36 Charoisaur wrote: is Neeb choking or just bad at pvt? Completely choking. He's not as great as we thought at PvT... But this is still an absurd choke. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:36 Shellshock wrote: COACH SHURA. Get out uThermal just give Neeb the money ITS OVER | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
Shura to the rescure! Shura: just wait for hive and then rush ultralisks! Neeb: but I'm toss! Shura: umm, you're screwed. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:36 GumBa wrote: SHURA S H U R A H U R A | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:36 Charoisaur wrote: is Neeb choking or just bad at pvt? He went full foreigner. | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
jjakji has once stepped onto the european soil, doesn't count | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:37 Charoisaur wrote: he beat INnoVation... who isn't relevant atm btw Kingovation currently. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:37 Charoisaur wrote: he beat INnoVation... who isn't relevant atm btw but he's a king. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:37 Thrillz wrote: All these posters were telling me that Neeb would stomp... nobody in their mind would predict a player from USA to win a tournament | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Maru, TY, Byun, Gumiho, Cure for sure. In general every terran who plays in proleague + Taeja i guess | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:37 Ej_ wrote: nobody in their mind would predict a player from USA to win a tournament Hah, well I'll give you that... | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:37 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Liberators and mines, such skill and fun units. Shura to the rescure! Shura: just wait for hive and then rush ultralisks! Neeb: but I'm toss! Shura: umm, you're screwed. neeb lost 5 stalkers to a single liberator a 1:2 trade on masters and im happy | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:36 Shellshock wrote: COACH SHURA. Get out uThermal just give Neeb the money rofl yeah surely with the help of a champion coach Neeb will win it. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:38 Nerchio wrote: Looks like terran is not that unplayable in the foreign scene if you are really trying :D 2 terrans in the finals in 2 tournaments and there is like 2x less terran players in the scene than zergs Marc just got lucky you got outskilled in ZvZ | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:38 Noonius wrote: I'm watching a foreign terran win a premiere event on a Sunday morning in my underwear. It doesn't get any better than this I'll take ZvZ, thank you very much | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12177 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:37 las91 wrote: well at least now i know every terran is going to proxy me every game on ladder for the next week or two I don't really think ladder tier terrans learn new builds all that often | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
ZvZ is the most skill based matchup in sc2 | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:38 Nerchio wrote: Looks like terran is not that unplayable in the foreign scene if you are really trying :D 2 terrans in the finals in 2 tournaments and there is like 2x less terran players in the scene than zergs yeah terrans are doing better. but I don't think it's a coincidence that there are 2x less terrans in the scene. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:36 geokilla wrote: Neeb choking harder than Soo. how dare you. soO had to choke 5 times to get his title. | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:38 Nerchio wrote: Looks like terran is not that unplayable in the foreign scene if you are really trying :D 2 terrans in the finals in 2 tournaments and there is like 2x less terran players in the scene than zergs wow 2 terrans in 2 finals what is this nonsense? lets give queens 8 range vs ground aswell | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
used to be for the past 6 years, rip LotV | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:38 GumBa wrote: ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉRAISE YOUR SHURAS BOYS ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ NEEB NEEDS YOUR POWER i will edit before warning, but shura hype nonetheless | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:37 Shellshock wrote: Game 4 was definitely a choke but game 5 was just godlike French tier prep France wins the event by proxy either way. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:39 Charoisaur wrote: yeah terrans are doing better. but I don't think it's a coincidence that there are 2x less terrans in the scene. It's not. Not many people find joy in playing a race based around making flying siege tanks and cloaked banelings. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:39 Sif_ wrote: wow 2 terrans in 2 finals what is this nonsense? lets give queens 8 range vs ground aswell Don't you even joke about that! | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
Careful, mods dont take too kindly to dank twitch memes. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
SHURA> ALL CUCK KOREAN COACHES SHURAAAAA | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:38 Nerchio wrote: Looks like terran is not that unplayable in the foreign scene if you are really trying :D 2 terrans in the finals in 2 tournaments and there is like 2x less terran players in the scene than zergs There are like 50% more terran players playing than zerg. Really doesn't make sense to talk about the scene only since it's easier to get into the scene while being a zerg. If all races were equally balanced and we assume that no race had better players than the other race, then there should be 50% more terrans in the "scene" than zerg players. | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm going to be so so so sad if he loses his 2nd finals of the year. Neeb deserves a win already THEREISNOSUCHTHINGASDESERVINGSGTK | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:39 Charoisaur wrote: yeah terrans are doing better. but I don't think it's a coincidence that there are 2x less terrans in the scene. no one likes humans | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:39 Sif_ wrote: wow 2 terrans in 2 finals what is this nonsense? lets give queens 8 range vs ground aswell New patch: - Queen now can call a huge baneling from the sky acting like a nuke. Heals zerg units, instantly kills everything else and dead units turn into their infested versions. Also make pretty lights appear at random all over the map. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm going to be so so so sad if he loses his 2nd finals of the year. Neeb deserves a win already It'll be cooler when he wins Blizzcon anyway  | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:38 Nerchio wrote: Looks like terran is not that unplayable in the foreign scene if you are really trying :D 2 terrans in the finals in 2 tournaments and there is like 2x less terran players in the scene than zergs Wow 2 good foreigner terrans in 2 finals. Such sample, much size. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:40 Ej_ wrote: It's not. Not many people find joy in playing a race based around making flying siege tanks and cloaked banelings. still better than having an extra type of blink stalker or rushing to hive every game against terrans | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:41 D-light wrote: Wow 2 good foreigner terrans in 2 finals. Such sample, much size. to be fair their conversion rate from top 16 to finals is pretty good right now | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:41 D-light wrote: Wow 2 good foreigner terrans Such sample, much size. Fixed that for you | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:41 TheDougler wrote: It'll be cooler when he wins Blizzcon anyway lol a NA player winning blizzcon. That's when you know know the whole thing has become a farce | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
ZvZ has 18 proud years of history at being a coin-flip. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12177 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:40 Ej_ wrote: It's not. Not many people find joy in playing a race based around making flying siege tanks and cloaked banelings. One of the great things in LotV, we lost most of the "terran is the race with the best design" nonsense. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Not sure I agree, but I guess if you can't win you can't win | ||
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:41 TheDougler wrote: It'll be cooler when he wins Blizzcon anyway You're telling me Neeb is going to beat Maru, Dark, or Zest? | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:40 GumBa wrote: Shura>Oov, SHURA> ALL CUCK KOREAN COACHES SHURAAAAA who the fuck is shura? | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:43 geokilla wrote: You're telling me Neeb is going to beat Maru, Dark, or Zest? Jokes man. Come on. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote: ZvZ has 18 proud years of history at being a coin-flip. You should tell that Jaedong | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:42 Noonius wrote: still better than having an extra type of blink stalker or rushing to hive every game against terrans Actually the reason I live is to destroy Terrans with ultra/corruptor in 17 minute games and then read their whine. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote: ZvZ has 18 proud years of history at being a coin-flip. soO disagrees. at least he did in HotS. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote: ZvZ has 18 proud years of history at being a coin-flip. don't care about BW, it has never been a coin flip in HotS | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:43 geokilla wrote: You're telling me Neeb is going to beat Maru, Dark, or Zest? We're talking about Blizzcon. Why even mention Maru? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
iirc Jaedong was the only BW player to have ZvZ over 60% so... | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:44 Alchemik wrote: don't care about BW, it has never been a coin flip in HotS insta ban | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:43 GumBa wrote: Mvp played terran rendering all arguements invalid, terran is the best race. - Book of Stuchiu Well back then it surely was the best race, making Mvp possible | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
Scarlett's attempt at a new name that never stuck | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
I like better games | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:44 Ej_ wrote: iirc Jaedong was the only BW player to have ZvZ over 60% so... what a god JD was | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
Indeed: Jaedong (SCBW and SC2), DRG, Life, and in Europe I'd say Nerchio (but I'll let him speak for himself). | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote: We're talking about Blizzcon. Why even mention Maru? because he gets a spot for winning GSL | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
BW mods already flying to your house. | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:44 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well back then it surely was the best race, making Mvp possible Mvp made terran impossible to foreigners | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:45 TheDougler wrote: Indeed: Jaedong (SCBW and SC2), DRG, Life, and in Europe I'd say Nerchio (but I'll let him speak for himself). not even mention soO? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:45 Sif_ wrote: so Dasan is good for who? I feel like its bad for both T and P no one knows but uThermal likes to pick the map a lot when he plays | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:45 TheDougler wrote: Indeed: Jaedong (SCBW and SC2), DRG, Life, and in Europe I'd say Nerchio (but I'll let him speak for himself). Remember that guy? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
GSL doesn't give participation awards | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
my sc2 queens will pick them off when they approach the border | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
80% of soO's good ZvZ rate came from his games vs DRG | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:47 Shellshock wrote: why do protoss never wait so long to put a pylon behind the minerals when I do mine drops wait, you play this game? when does that happen? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
the people in this chat fucking better. I gave him a shoutout yesterday after all... | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:47 Shellshock wrote: why do protoss never wait so long to put a pylon behind the minerals when I do mine drops what server do you play on | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:47 Shellshock wrote: why do protoss never wait so long to put a pylon behind the minerals when I do mine drops because they are fucking idiots, they don't know the metagame! | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:47 Shellshock wrote: why do protoss never wait so long to put a pylon behind the minerals when I do mine drops you prob play on eu server by accident. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:47 Cricketer12 wrote: 80% of soO's good ZvZ rate came from his games vs DRG actually DRG was the only player to win a zvz vs soO last year in proleague. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
Except for this one | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:48 moon1ight wrote: wait, you play this game? when does that happen? I actually won in a 1s today. I wonder if the guy uninstalled after losing to someone so bad | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:48 Cricketer12 wrote: the people in this chat fucking better. I gave him a shoutout yesterday after all... who? | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:48 moon1ight wrote: wait, you play this game? when does that happen? When he's cheesing me like an asshole. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
dongraeskill | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:49 stuchiu wrote: Tilting neeb is easy. You just need to give him a motivational speech about how good he is and how everyone believes in him and how hes the foreigner hope. That boy just ain't right. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Doesn't ring a bell | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
kyrix | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
DongRaetire | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:49 Shellshock wrote: immortal left behind smh #mechanicallivesmatter | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:49 stuchiu wrote: Tilting neeb is easy. You just need to give him a motivational speech about how good he is and how everyone believes in him and how hes the foreigner hope. Already did that yesterday and my man uThermal is doing so good so I don't want to take away anything from him but 50% of this finals is me winning | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
you have no pashun | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
true zerg god | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
gamesenseeeee | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
Neeb: Build a shit ton of gateways? Scarlett: Bingo. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:51 TheDougler wrote: Scarlett to Neeb: What would HuK do? Neeb: Build a shit ton of gateways? Scarlett: Bingo. Neeb: switch to overwatch casting? Shura: Bingo. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:51 Ej_ wrote: This gives me an Arthur sensation I never expected to feel again. fucking first round of ESL America | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:51 Cricketer12 wrote: Neeb: switch to overwatch casting? Shura: Bingo. Owe man... The truth hurts | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:52 Shellshock wrote: neeb needs to fly his warp prisms better Standard US airforce | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
it does | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Poland7124 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:51 OsaX Nymloth wrote: This map should have an unique feature: if the clock strikes 10 minute mark, then both ultralisk free themselves from the chains and start randomly wrecking everything, no alliances. Pure bloodbath. Oooh if there is such a map, call it Horn of Joramun? | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
uthermal an iem "champion" now... haha. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lpVNDge.png) | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:53 vult wrote: i hate liberators lol Yeah... I dunno about the whole flying Siege Tanks idea... | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
But the player lineup was still :\ | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:54 D-light wrote: And neeb chokes as usual. uthermal an iem "champion" now... haha. poor MajOr also uThermal = progamer confirmed | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Alchemik
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:54 Inflicted wrote: How can a Protoss not know how to deal with liberators Well the only counter is a tier 3 unit that Terran players want nerfed | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:55 Alchemik wrote: the Netherlands confirmed more free than USA I don't know man Neeb was pretty fucking free for uThermal | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
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Deathstar
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:50 Nerchio wrote: Already did that yesterday and my man uThermal is doing so good so I don't want to take away anything from him but 50% of this finals is me winning And helping Terran get nerfed. I see you. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:54 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Yeah... I dunno about the whole flying Siege Tanks idea... for a moment I though you meant tankivacs | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:53 TheDougler wrote: what in the hell Neeb? This is just goddam disgraceful lol what is wrong with you? | ||
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breaker1328
Canada295 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Shanghai mvp for netherlands | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:55 GumBa wrote: USA GOT LIBERATED BOYS Liberated from who tho? Lizardmen? | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:55 kaykoose wrote: I really hate when the winner goes over to the loser for a handshake........ naniwa had the balls to refuse such a andshake | ||
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20-Minute-Jackal
United States336 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:56 breaker1328 wrote: So... can we all agree that Shanghai is just friggin strange? Must be something in the air... | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:55 Charoisaur wrote: so what are his chances for blizzcon? he's at 11th currently | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Joke esports players | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:54 Noonius wrote: INCREDIBLE told you he would win hater | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
Sorry. But like... The choke was just so real there and it's heartbreaking. Neeb's time will come one day, but this is the second time in a month that the NA hope has let us down. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:55 Charoisaur wrote: so what are his chances for blizzcon? He's at 1780. 8th place is at 2310. | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
what air? | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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Saggymidgetbooty6969
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Awesome, well done uThermal fucking foreign terran winning touraments <3 | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:07 Ej_ wrote: good guy Marc losing 2 maps so we see Dasan before he wins called it | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
smog for the win | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:57 Sif_ wrote: i have lived to see a terran win something what a time to be alive | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:57 Aocowns wrote: wait wins a tournament and goes from 13th to 11th in rankings? thats underwhelming lol he was already in 11th when he reached the finals...actually winning it had almost no effect.... | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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breaker1328
Canada295 Posts
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Alchemik
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
Important to note he will also be at the Summer Championship | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:55 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: That trophy looks like a cologne bottle. Maybe it is. Scent: deliciously salty tears of opponent's race. | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:57 Saggymidgetbooty6969 wrote: Neeb is too shy to win offline Lans imo, so he ends up sabotaging himself maybe subconciously maybe intentionally. yea he could definately benefit from a psychologist or something | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Ej_ you are the sc2 mastermind now | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
Smog? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:58 GumBa wrote: Ting gonna drop Neeb and pick up the next NA hope, JuggernautJason Cray Squad! | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Next PL team. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:55 Solar424 wrote: Well the only counter is a tier 3 unit that Terran players want nerfed the only counter to ranged liberators are tempests. vs non-ranged libs blinkstalker + storm is enough. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:58 GumBa wrote: Ting gonna drop Neeb and pick up the next NA hope, JuggernautJason Jason's in the Cray Squad, not gonna leave the next big thing | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:58 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Ej_ you are the sc2 mastermind now but who did he pick for Proleague?! | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12177 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:57 Sif_ wrote: i have lived to see a terran win something You're two years old? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
China | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:58 BeaTeR wrote: lol uthermal pulled a denmark '92 what unit is michael luandrup | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
The team with less annoying fans | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
STX fan eh | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Kazi25
Philippines236 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:58 Solar424 wrote: Toss has no answer to liberators until Tempests and Zerg has no answer to bio until Ultras. Funny how Terran players want both of those units nerfed if terran had an answer to tempests/ultras it would be fine | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
that's a tough one | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
sOs gonna dt 4 times in a row for that... | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
EG? | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12177 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:00 GumBa wrote: France wins another event. French prep from Uthermal Horizontal France | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:58 breaker1328 wrote: How many more times does Neeb have to lose in the finals before joining the Kong Line? Hard to say, I think if we start calling pros Kongs then we should've started with Naniwa and his seven silvers. | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:00 Kazi25 wrote: :-( I wanted Neeb to win so he'll have money to continue living in Korea. pretty sure they are covered lol | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:00 Charoisaur wrote: if terran had an answer to tempests/ultras it would be fine Vikings, ghosts/liberators/micro. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: This tournament for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhITpTtG888 that's a pretty damn perfect representation | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm sorry Neeb. I cursed you by cheering for you in a finals. The last time a player I wanted to win a finals did was Zest vs TY so this is my fault God damnit SGTK! | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
EG has a team? | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
This really doesn't help. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
they have a flair and a world champion | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:01 TheDougler wrote: Hard to say, I think if we start calling pros Kongs then we should've started with Naniwa and his seven silvers. He won a premier he doesn't count. | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: This tournament for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhITpTtG888 Oh my, this is hilarious! | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:01 TheDougler wrote: Hard to say, I think if we start calling pros Kongs then we should've started with Naniwa and his seven silvers. kong is someone who doesnt win, but gets 2nd a lot naniwa won a premier before getting any 2nd | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
technically yes | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
High five! | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
don't tell them | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
A dota team | ||
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Shellshock
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
None, cus he didn't play in the tournament. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm sorry Neeb. I cursed you by cheering for you in a finals. The last time a player I wanted to win a finals did was Zest vs TY so this is my fault I was a Bills fan back when they were losing Super Bowls so I was prepared to become a Stork fan and looks like Neeb's got my curse, too. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:00 Charoisaur wrote: if terran had an answer to tempests/ultras it would be fine Terran does have an answer to ultras imo, if you get into the very late game, it's just that the transition into the requisite ghost/liberator based composition is so painful that terrans die in the early mid-game. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 31 2016 11:55 Charoisaur wrote: so what are his chances for blizzcon? Probably not that great since people will expect a bit more from a tournament winner and as a foreigner can very well go back to slumping. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
It's ok, they can't micro anything that can't stim. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:01 TheDougler wrote: Hard to say, I think if we start calling pros Kongs then we should've started with Naniwa and his seven silvers. Yeah and Jaedong would be there to when he made like 5 finals in 2013? and got 2nd in them all. God damn that still hurts my soul. | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I do miss the prize ceremonies with big cheques and shit Yeah showing a guy standing alone on the stage for 5 minutes is weird at best | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
those don't work and you know it. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:03 Nerchio wrote: Yeah showing a guy standing alone on the stage for 5 minutes is weird at best need to bring back the girls like Morrow got | ||
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messioso
Denmark635 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:04 messioso wrote: Replays you are late | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:03 Ej_ wrote: It's ok, they can't micro anything that can't stim. what about tankivacs | ||
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United States277 Posts
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:03 Ej_ wrote: It's ok, they can't micro anything that can't stim. lets just give all their units the ability to trade some health for massive movement and dps gains, maybe they'll be satisfied | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:03 Shellshock wrote: need to bring back the girls like Morrow got morrow won when it mattered ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Plexa/Morrow_Interview/morrow4.jpg) | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Do the Bunny micro and fly them into biles. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12177 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:04 messioso wrote: Replays Glad to know you're still an awesome human being | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:04 pzlama333 wrote: uThermal will stay in Shanghai for several more days for NSL international, at least. gonna win that too over Parting in the final jk Parting wont make the final | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
Ignite Afterburners is basically stim. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Terran does have an answer to ultras imo, if you get into the very late game, it's just that the transition into the requisite ghost/liberator based composition is so painful that terrans die in the early mid-game. We're calling "early mid-game" the time of the game where Terran has to go into ghost/liberator? Does mass BCs in TvT come in the late mid-game? | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
they more or lass have half a stim with the insane movement speed boost | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
medi boost is basically better stim | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Terran does have an answer to ultras imo, if you get into the very late game, it's just that the transition into the requisite ghost/liberator based composition is so painful that terrans die in the early mid-game. yeah ultras can be countered by libs/ghosts but it's almost impossible to be aggressive with this composition and zerg can freely transition to BL/viper/infestor see Byun vs Solar for reference. and to BL/infestor/viper terran has really no answer | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
I dont think he made a ghost? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
holy shit, morrow had hair! | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
Hahaha reminds me of that con where some guy hired a bunch of "escorts" to recruit people to his Vampire: The Masquerade LARP game. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
Neeb gets to semifinals --> Plebs says he chokes. Neeb gets 2nd place --> Plebs says he chokes. So per definition, he will always choke until he wins the tournament. Also, plebs will never ever actually include any ingame analysis before concluding that he just lost cus he choked. Just easier to follow the simplistic narrative while having no idea what you are talking about. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
he did in previous rounds but not tonight | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
no hover hand... my man | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:06 Hider wrote: Neeb gets to quarter finals --> Plebs say he chokes. Neeb gets to semifinals --> Plebs says he chokes. Neeb gets 2nd place --> Plebs says he chokes. So per definition, he will always choke until he wins the tournament. Also, plebs will never ever actually include any ingame analysis before concluding that he just lost cus he choked. Just easier to follow the simplistic narrative while having no idea what you are talking about. Bomber's law was just basically Bomber doesnt win 100% of tournaments he enters so we call it a disappointment | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:06 Hider wrote: Neeb gets to quarter finals --> Plebs say he chokes. Neeb gets to semifinals --> Plebs says he chokes. Neeb gets 2nd place --> Plebs says he chokes. So per definition, he will always choke until he wins the tournament. Also, plebs will never ever actually include any ingame analysis before concluding that he just lost cus he choked. Just easier to follow the simplistic narrative while having no idea what you are talking about. sounds like bomber's law | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:06 Hider wrote: Neeb gets to quarter finals --> Plebs say he chokes. Neeb gets to semifinals --> Plebs says he chokes. Neeb gets 2nd place --> Plebs says he chokes. So per definition, he will always choke until he wins the tournament. Also, plebs will never ever actually include any ingame analysis before concluding that he just lost cus he choked. Just easier to follow the simplistic narrative while having no idea what you are talking about. He choked | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12177 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:06 Hider wrote: Neeb gets to quarter finals --> Plebs say he chokes. Neeb gets to semifinals --> Plebs says he chokes. Neeb gets 2nd place --> Plebs says he chokes. So per definition, he will always choke until he wins the tournament. Also, plebs will never ever actually include any ingame analysis before concluding that he just lost cus he choked. Just easier to follow the simplistic narrative while having no idea what you are talking about. This post would have a lot more weight if Neeb didn't choke in this series... | ||
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Deathstar
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
No hover hand at all.  | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
He faced uThermal The terran prodigy The dropping dutchman The foreign hope He had no chance | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:03 Ej_ wrote: It's ok, they can't micro anything that can't stim. Just let everything have stim. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:06 TheDougler wrote: So is the Summer Championship in Montreal the last chance for foreigner WCS points this year? Theres WCS Mexico | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:07 Ej_ wrote: Wow people actually take Hider's baits in 2016 no bait just facts | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
This | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
Haters shoulda screen capped him while hand was on the way | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: We're calling "early mid-game" the time of the game where Terran has to go into ghost/liberator? Does mass BCs in TvT come in the late mid-game? Uhh. Meant early late-game where Ultras come out. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
already has new Chinese protoss bonjwa Cyan qualified too | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:06 Hider wrote: Neeb gets to quarter finals --> Plebs say he chokes. Neeb gets to semifinals --> Plebs says he chokes. Neeb gets 2nd place --> Plebs says he chokes. So per definition, he will always choke until he wins the tournament. Also, plebs will never ever actually include any ingame analysis before concluding that he just lost cus he choked. Just easier to follow the simplistic narrative while having no idea what you are talking about. And here we have an example of a person who doesn't recognize choking. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12177 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:07 Ej_ wrote: Wow people actually take Hider's baits in 2016 The majority of my contribution to internet as a whole is me taking baits. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Uhh. Meant early late-game where Ultras come out. late-game? your hive must be late | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
SCV pulls are finally exciting | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:06 Hider wrote: Neeb gets to quarter finals --> Plebs say he chokes. Neeb gets to semifinals --> Plebs says he chokes. Neeb gets 2nd place --> Plebs says he chokes. So per definition, he will always choke until he wins the tournament. Also, plebs will never ever actually include any ingame analysis before concluding that he just lost cus he choked. Just easier to follow the simplistic narrative while having no idea what you are talking about. ...Maybe you just have a different definition of choke then we do. Could you explain the strategy behind trading 6 probes and 5 stalkers to a liberator? Or do you not think that Neeb is a great player who suddenly becomes bad when his nerves get the better of him? | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:08 D-light wrote: And here we have an example of a person who doesn't recognize choking. Would you say he choked in his anaylsis of choking? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:08 OsaX Nymloth wrote: I need to go to sleep, I just spent a minute wondering what noise I was hearing. Muted stream, noise like some Dark Vader's breathing still there. Took me a while to realize it was my own clogged nose. What is wrong with me. Probably DT's robbing your house to be fair | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
And you know this is the guy who can't deal with positive reinforcment. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:06 Hider wrote: Neeb gets to quarter finals --> Plebs say he chokes. Neeb gets to semifinals --> Plebs says he chokes. Neeb gets 2nd place --> Plebs says he chokes. So per definition, he will always choke until he wins the tournament. Also, plebs will never ever actually include any ingame analysis before concluding that he just lost cus he choked. Just easier to follow the simplistic narrative while having no idea what you are talking about. I mean even uthermal thought he was too nervous and he felt it. | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:09 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Hahaha the interviewer got him to say he made Neeb choke! he's not wrong. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:09 stuchiu wrote: its a choke. Made multiple mistakes he usually doesnt. Basic mistakes like misplaced pylons too And you know this is the guy who can't deal with positive reinforcment. was a foreign Terran, not used to being praised | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:09 TheDougler wrote: ...Maybe you just have a different definition of choke then we do. Could you explain the strategy behind trading 6 probes and 5 stalkers to a liberator? Or do you not think that Neeb is a great player who suddenly becomes bad when his nerves get the better of him? Do you think he would change to protoss from terran if he could micro and multitask? | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:07 Ej_ wrote: Wow people actually take Hider's baits in 2016 Huh, haven't noticed the guy before so I guess I goofed by replying. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:10 Shellshock wrote: if Byun and Neeb did an offline showmatch who would choke more? Sea | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:10 Sif_ wrote: valdez is doing the interview so he prob isnt casting PL not worth watching anymore | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:10 Shellshock wrote: if Byun and Neeb did an offline showmatch who would choke more? Neeb. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:10 Noonius wrote: TY confirmed to be the best Korean terran Almost on par with uThermal | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Probably DT's robbing your house to be fair Damn, now I know why my money keeps disappearing. Any idea if frying pan can work as detection? Or cats? | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:10 Noonius wrote: TY confirmed to be the best Korean terran everybody knows this | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:12 Alchemik wrote: no LR shout out? wow I thought uThermal was one of us | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
No he doesnt play zerg | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:08 Noonius wrote: did uThermal just burn Neeb with that "switch to protoss" comment? Maybe he should switch to terran! | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
He's a Progamer now | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
he betrayed us the moment he got the Progamer | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
What a GFUEL MVP /sellout | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
his assumed new progamer tag has cause him to grow mad with power. he no longer cares for the little guys | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:12 Alchemik wrote: no LR shout out? wow He did one yesterday. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Poland7124 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:13 Shellshock wrote: at least Nerchio still cares about us On July 31 2016 12:13 Nerchio wrote: There were no Koreans except Hydra and Violet in the tournament so this win doesn't mean anything for uThermal ... WCS Welfare lololol Wow he's definitely one of us | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:13 Shellshock wrote: at least Nerchio still cares about us It's easy to care about the plebs when you are in a big slump | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:13 Shellshock wrote: at least Nerchio still cares about us Yeah, but he lost to violet so should we really care about him anymore? | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:13 Shellshock wrote: at least Nerchio still cares about us well, zergs don't have friends in RL so they have to settle for imaginary LR ones | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:14 Shellshock wrote: Wow he's definitely one of us What is the requirement to be one of us? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
The ones who are, know. | ||
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Deathstar
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
There's a few requirements (balance whining, WCS bashing, foreigner shaming, claims that you know the game better than the players), but they are very easy to meet without even knowing them. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:16 Deathstar wrote: Nerchio is the people's progamer. Make LR great again. CAN YOU SMELLLLLL WHAT THE NERCHIO IS COOKING!? + Show Spoiler + It's banelings | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote: There's a few requirements (balance whining, WCS bashing, foreigner shaming, claims that you know the game better than the players), but they are very easy to meet. and if you're the best foreigner, it gets so much easier | ||
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Sonics12
14 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote: There's a few requirements (balance whining, WCS bashing, foreigner shaming, claims that you know the game better than the players), but they are very easy to meet without even knowing them. Claims? I'm pretty sure you have to be top 16 Korean GM to post in here | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:08 D-light wrote: And here we have an example of a person who doesn't recognize choking. Sc2 is not like a game like Counter Strike where your mental stale and and confidence are extremely important to make sure you are gonna hit instant flick shots. In Sc2, your EAPM and mouseprecision is very constant regardless of circumstances. The only thing that can really change is if you decide to go for some stupid builds/react in stupid ways that you usually wouldn't do. But when calling out someone for choking must be able to specify where the choking can be seen. Like which mistake/error was very unusual for the player? Otherwise it's just lazy "analysis" (read: not analysis. Just explantion from people who cannot actually analyze games). | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:17 Sonics12 wrote: Guys, The Key to winning as Terran is to just copy TY. I mean haven't we been saying for years to be good just be as good as the best player? Can't believe more people don't just do that. | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote: There's a few requirements (balance whining, WCS bashing, foreigner shaming, claims that you know the game better than the players), but they are very easy to meet without even knowing them. I'm lacking only in the foreign shaming department, but I can make up for that with caster bashing | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:18 Hider wrote: Sc2 pro games are very rarely lost because of choking. It's not like a game like Counter Strike where your mental stale and and confidence are extremely important to make sure you are gonna hit instant flick shots. No in Sc2, your EAPM and mouseprecision is very constant regardless of circumstances. The only thing that can really change is if you decide to go for some stupid builds/react in stupid ways that you usually wouldn't do. But anyway calling out someone for choking must be able to specify whe choking can be seen. Otherwise it's just lazy "analysis" (read: not analysis. Just explantion from people who cannot actually analyze games). Mental state is all important. It's the difference between being Mvp and soO/MKP or July and Best. July said at the top level what differentiated champions and the other elites was mental strength. Something Stork, oov, Flash, Jaedong, Mvp and others have all agreed on. | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:18 Hider wrote: Sc2 pro games are very rarely lost because of choking. It's not like a game like Counter Strike where your mental stale and and confidence are extremely important to make sure you are gonna hit instant flick shots. No in Sc2, your EAPM and mouseprecision is very constant regardless of circumstances. The only thing that can really change is if you decide to go for some stupid builds/react in stupid ways that you usually wouldn't do. But anyway calling out someone for choking must be able to specify whe choking can be seen. Otherwise it's just lazy "analysis" (read: not analysis. Just explantion from people who cannot actually analyze games). If anything choking is more real in SC2 than CS:GO because there you use muscle memory to do flickshots that you are talking about and if you play a little bit slower or your precision is off then you're just screwed in SC2. Also you play 30 rounds in CS:GO and you have a lot of free time which doesn't really happen in sc2 | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:16 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Apollo is the IEM boss now :o https://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/759587872160690176 I feel like this should be talked about more | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:21 Cricketer12 wrote: so who else is excited for 40 dank minutes of G Fuel ads? I got my kush ready | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:18 Hider wrote: Sc2 pro games are very rarely lost because of choking. It's not like a game like Counter Strike where your mental stale and and confidence are extremely important to make sure you are gonna hit instant flick shots. No in Sc2, your EAPM and mouseprecision is very constant regardless of circumstances. The only thing that can really change is if you decide to go for some stupid builds/react in stupid ways that you usually wouldn't do. But when calling out someone for choking must be able to specify where the choking can be seen. Like which mistake/error was very unusual for the player? Otherwise it's just lazy "analysis" (read: not analysis. Just explantion from people who cannot actually analyze games). Sure calling it "choking" anytime someone loses somewhat unexpectedly is lazy. But in this case it was quite clear, when even the opponent can tell that the play wasn't up to standard because of weird mistakes nerv issues seem quite likely. Your statement about sc2 in comparison to csgo make also no sense | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:18 Hider wrote: Sc2 pro games are very rarely lost because of choking. It's not like a game like Counter Strike where your mental stale and and confidence are extremely important to make sure you are gonna hit instant flick shots. In Sc2, your EAPM and mouseprecision is very constant regardless of circumstances. The only thing that can really change is if you decide to go for some stupid builds/react in stupid ways that you usually wouldn't do. But when calling out someone for choking must be able to specify where the choking can be seen. Like which mistake/error was very unusual for the player? Otherwise it's just lazy "analysis" (read: not analysis. Just explantion from people who cannot actually analyze games). making many unusual mistakes the player normally doesn't do is definitely choking. I'm not sure how good neebs pvt is in general but a player of his calibre should be able to handle liberator/wm harassment better. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:20 Nerchio wrote: If anything choking is more real in SC2 than CS:GO because there you use muscle memory to do flickshots that you are talking about and if you play a little bit slower or your precision is off then you're just screwed in SC2. Also you play 30 rounds in CS:GO and you have a lot of free time which doesn't really happen in sc2 I'm just assuming Hider is trolling with that post. No way he really believes that. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:21 chipmonklord17 wrote: I feel like this should be talked about more end of an era? | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:22 blade55555 wrote: I'm just assuming Hider is trolling with that post. No way he really believes that. We need Wolf to weigh in on this. He's the master of recognizing the symptoms | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
No carmac piggyback ride for uTthermal also no nerdballer shoes | ||
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Deathstar
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
I remember Apollo coaching TB back in the day | ||
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Sonics12
14 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:18 Shellshock wrote: I mean haven't we been saying for years to be good just be as good as the best player? Can't believe more people don't just do that. Rofl he made it sound so simple. uThermal was like "Yeah I just copied TY, literally build for build." Of course he added his own flavor but it was just funny he said that so off handedly. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:33 Cricketer12 wrote: fucking insane timing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQaXrIR6Xog beautiful, just beautiful | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:33 Cricketer12 wrote: fucking insane timing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQaXrIR6Xog Magnificent. I don't think it's a matter of timing though. This video would have been relevant basically every week since the release of LotV . | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
Sure calling it "choking" anytime someone loses somewhat unexpectedly is lazy. But in this case it was quite clear, when even the opponent can tell that the play wasn't up to standard because of weird mistakes nerv issues seem quite likely. Then point out all of the errors that came as a result of choking (and not as a result of being outplayed). Whenever you are incapable of doing that, but still claim that you know the reason the player your lost, it indicates ignorance. Your statement about sc2 in comparison to csgo make also no sense Fantastic argumentation. In CS:GO you cannot really explain missed aims (that you usually would hit otherwise) by anything else than choking. On the other hand, choking is a pointless term in Sc2 analysis as you specifically can point to the actual errors in the game. You should only use the term choking whenever you see errors being made that would never happen online. But going with the default explanation of "choking" to explain everytime a player isn't winning a final is pretty dumb in my opinion. From my experience. People who actually can analyze games would never ever go into a forum and say "player x lost cus he choked". No they would say "Player x made this mistake when he should have done Y instead of Z because he saw...." etc. And if you still don't think the comparison makes sense, do you then imply that your EAPM drops off by 30% when you play offline? Or what other part of the mechanical side of Starcraft deterioates significantly. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:43 Hider wrote: Then point out the errors. Whenever you are incapable of doing that, but still claim that you know the reason the player your lost, it indicates ignorance. Fantastic argumentation. People have pointed out the errors during the game (both in this thread and the commentators as well), uthermal pointed it out after the game. What else do you need? About csgo and sc2: Any real time video game you can play is about muscle memory at the highest lvl. Nerve issues influencing your performance doesn't seem to be a crazy concept tbh. You are stating this isn't the case in sc2, you have to make the arguments. Quod gratis asseritur gratis negatur edit: As i already said before i agree that "choking" as an end all be all explanation is lazy. Pointing out what mistakes were unusual is the way to go for sure, these errors can still be the effect of choking though aka nerve issues and it's legitimate to point that out. Nerve issues also manifest in a lot of ways. Being supply blocked more often, making bad decisions, having worse micro, etc. That's all possible effects of "choking". You implying that nerve issues don't affect sc2 is simply weird | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:33 Cricketer12 wrote: fucking insane timing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQaXrIR6Xog That's amazing. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On July 31 2016 12:21 Charoisaur wrote: making many unusual mistakes the player normally doesn't do is definitely choking. I'm not sure how good neebs pvt is in general but a player of his calibre should be able to handle liberator/wm harassment better. If Neeb (occationally) losses in a similar fashion on the ladder or in an offline cup to a skilled opponent, would it then also be choking? As I see it, unless you have the sample size/data to know that he would never lose in a similar way under different circumstances, then you cannot conclude that he was choking. Rather, what you could say is that he problems dealing with early game harass. And the next question would be why. E.g was it a unit-control problem? Was it a build-order problem? In my opinion that's real analysis and that's the type of analysis I want to see and hear from people who understand the game at a high level. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
But a Protoss choker? Wow, what a concept! The closest they have were herO and Parting, but even then they eventually got over choking. Choking is not in the blood of Aiur. It's just not. Choking is for other races. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On July 31 2016 14:32 juicyjames wrote: Was this match recommended? Try watching some time then you'd know | ||
Poopi
France12883 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 31 2016 13:09 RKC wrote: It's usual for Terrans (TY & Byun) and Zergs (soO and Byul) to choke. But a Protoss choker? Wow, what a concept! The closest they have were herO and Parting, but even then they eventually got over choking. Choking is not in the blood of Aiur. It's just not. Choking is for other races. Wasn't Neeb a Terran originally? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
yup, he actually wrecked HuK 2-0 in his challenger debut | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On July 31 2016 16:06 Cricketer12 wrote: yup, he actually wrecked HuK 2-0 in his challenger debut He had a lot of potential as Terran, too. Then he got put in a group with a bunch of Korean Terrans and he got so royally rekt that he gave up on the race. | ||
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Kashim
Poland1209 Posts
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Penev
28481 Posts
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuThermaluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu FOREIGN TERRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
I'm not kidding or venting. I'm seriously transfixed watching it now and yesterday. Rain, herO, soO, MC, Gumiho - good times! | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On July 31 2016 18:38 RKC wrote: The best thing about IEM is the 2014 replays. I'm not kidding or venting. I'm seriously transfixed watching it now and yesterday. Rain, herO, soO, MC, Gumiho - good times! The only thing that kinda sucks is that they constantly restream the same 4 or 5 events (IEM Katowice 2015, WCS AM 2014, WCS EU 2013, IEM San Jose qualifier, IEM Cologne qualifier). | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On July 31 2016 18:53 Elentos wrote: The only thing that kinda sucks is that they constantly restream the same 4 or 5 events (IEM Katowice 2015, WCS AM 2014, WCS EU 2013, IEM San Jose qualifier, IEM Cologne qualifier). Wow, there is more than 1 event? All I've watched so far is San Jose qualifiers. Admittedly I'm only watching around this hour of the day. Does the replays run 24 hours? Miss Apollo's casting. Very on point and insightful. Maybe not hyped and dramatic enough for the average casual viewer. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
specially someone that wasn't supposed to be here haha, also europe prevails :D | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On July 31 2016 13:09 RKC wrote: It's usual for Terrans (TY & Byun) and Zergs (soO and Byul) to choke. But a Protoss choker? Wow, what a concept! The closest they have were herO and Parting, but even then they eventually got over choking. Choking is not in the blood of Aiur. It's just not. Choking is for other races. Are you for real? One of the hardest chokers in the history of sc2 is a protoss (squirtle). | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
On July 31 2016 21:20 royalroadweed wrote: Are you for real? One of the hardest chokers in the history of sc2 is a protoss (squirtle). Indeed And let me add the two derpers extraordinaire: Zest and Dear | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 31 2016 22:50 Penev wrote: Indeed And let me add the two derpers extraordinaire: Zest and Dear Let us never forget the legend that is Inca´s GSL final. | ||
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Supersamu
Germany296 Posts
Thank you. | ||
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Scarlett`
Canada2385 Posts
On July 31 2016 13:44 royalroadweed wrote: Neeb is going to start a prestigious foreign Kong line. the #onfire kongline me neeb and bly all 0-2 in premier tournament finals | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On August 01 2016 00:26 Scarlett` wrote: the #onfire kongline me neeb and bly all 0-2 in premier tournament finals #kongfire | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On July 31 2016 23:51 Supersamu wrote: I really rely on the Polls to select what Starcraft I watch. Usually the Polls on which games are recommended are in the OP. Are there no polls or are the polls somewhere in this Thread? Are there Polls for the other dayys of this Tournament? Thank you. There are often polls for weekly or similar tournaments like proleague, but I don't see any in this thread. You could try checking out the next This Week In Starcraft 2 which will have the recommended games from today, or the last one, which has the previous days. | ||
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