EPT[IEM XI] Shanghai Round of 16 - Day 2 - Page 5
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
not like everyone plays like Snute, Nerchio's ZvT is exciting | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:35 Alchemik wrote: meh, I still like ZvT if it's not roach/ravager Yeah in those cases its usually fine, shouldve specified that. Or if its mass air terran, thats also very retarded | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:36 TheLordofAwesome wrote: I feel like all LotV matchups are worse than their HotS and WoL versions, with two exceptions. LotV ZvZ is actually really good, the best of all 3 expansions. I think LotV PvP is better than WoL PvP, but that's a really low bar to clear. All matchups involving T in LotV are pretty lame though imo. PvZ and PvT are better too imo. Sure adepts can be a pain, but colossi, immortal all-ins, broodlords, swarmhosts were worse, and the match-ups are a bit more diverse and less deathball oriented. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:37 Alchemik wrote: not like everyone plays like Snute, Nerchio's ZvT is exciting Doesnt he just do the exact same thing, except he uses more lings and melee upgrades? Like he still makes use of a roach/ravager base to get out pretty fast ultras | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:36 TheLordofAwesome wrote: I feel like all LotV matchups are worse than their HotS and WoL versions, with two exceptions. LotV ZvZ is actually really good, the best of all 3 expansions. I think LotV PvP is better than WoL PvP, but that's a really low bar to clear. All matchups involving T in LotV are pretty lame though imo. PvT was much better before the collossus buff but now it's kinda the same as HotS  | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:36 TheLordofAwesome wrote: I feel like all LotV matchups are worse than their HotS and WoL versions, with two exceptions. LotV ZvZ is actually really good, the best of all 3 expansions. I think LotV PvP is better than WoL PvP, but that's a really low bar to clear. All matchups involving T in LotV are pretty lame though imo. You prefer hots ZvP to lotv ZvP? | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:38 Aocowns wrote: Doesnt he just do the exact same thing, except he uses more lings and melee upgrades? Like he still makes use of a roach/ravager base to get out pretty fast ultras he plays completely different, ling/ravager/infestor, to get to ultras which is hard to micro for both sides, and I can appreciate that | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
I played against swarmhosts today and it was all coming back. I'll take lotv | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
A lot more. I loved the swarmhost era. Still really sad there are no mods or anything to play even in a custom game with the old swarmhost. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:36 TheLordofAwesome wrote: I feel like all LotV matchups are worse than their HotS and WoL versions, with two exceptions. LotV ZvZ is actually really good, the best of all 3 expansions. I think LotV PvP is better than WoL PvP, but that's a really low bar to clear. All matchups involving T in LotV are pretty lame though imo. I would say ZvP is 100000 times better then hots and wol ZvP. I would even say PvT is better as well. ZvT has gone down, not as fun to watch or play (still not as bad as it could be... Wish muta/ling/bane was used more). ZvZ doesn't seem that different and I can't comment on TvT or PvP :p. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:41 TheLordofAwesome wrote: A lot more. I loved the swarmhost era. Still really sad there are no mods or anything to play even in a custom game with the old swarmhost. agree. I think 1 hour mech vs swarmhost games were the most fun I've ever had with sc2. such an intense positional battle. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:41 TheLordofAwesome wrote: A lot more. I loved the swarmhost era. Still really sad there are no mods or anything to play even in a custom game with the old swarmhost. YOU LOVED SWARMHOSTS? wait is that irony i really cant tell I think you might be part of one of the biggest minorities in sc2, thats plain weird man | ||
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Luolis
Finland7142 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:41 TheLordofAwesome wrote: A lot more. I loved the swarmhost era. Still really sad there are no mods or anything to play even in a custom game with the old swarmhost. I also loved that era, SH's made for really exciting games in ZvP, but Blizzard decided to remove an unit because of a couple European Zergs playing a particular style rip but yeah, I think LotV ZvP is still better, it's really good with how the mid game plays out | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:42 blade55555 wrote: I would say ZvP is 100000 times better then hots and wol ZvP. I would even say PvT is better as well. ZvT has gone down, not as fun to watch or play (still not as bad as it could be... Wish muta/ling/bane was used more). ZvZ doesn't seem that different and I can't comment on TvT or PvP :p. TvT was at its peak in WoL. Been downhill ever since imo | ||
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Luolis
Finland7142 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:44 Shellshock wrote: TvT was at its peak in WoL. Been downhill ever since imo I definitely agree. Speedvacs and banshee change made it worse at Hots. Tankivacs killed it. | ||
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moon1ight
Iceland153 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:44 Shellshock wrote: TvT was at its peak in WoL. Been downhill ever since imo are you okay :x rip vikingflower | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:44 Alchemik wrote: I also loved that era, SH's made for really exciting games in ZvP, but Blizzard decided to remove an unit because of a couple European Zergs playing a particular style rip but yeah, I think LotV ZvP is still better, it's really good with how the mid game plays out SH nerf was necessary because it delayed tournaments too much. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
agreed, TvT was never good | ||
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