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Ej_
47656 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The game's never over until it's over. We've seen plenty of throws, even this late in the game. And this isn't the first tournament draw either. tournament draws happen in games that are draws, not ones that have the outcome decided | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:54 Fig wrote: should definitely be an option to turn off I think this is the fairest thing, realistically. | ||
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:54 Tiaraju9 wrote: That draw mechanic is part of the game. There is no other way around here. the argument that this mecanic is made for the ladder makes sens to me, i think admins should overule it | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45456 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:51 Inflicted wrote: What a throw Agreed. Literally 0 argument at this point. People can be pissed that the game ended in a draw, but they only have Strange to blame for not finishing off Polt 1-10 minutes earlier- not Polt, not the referees, not Blizzard. QQ. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
There are win conditions for Starcraft. Kill all buildings. There are draw conditions for Starcraft. We had draw conditions. Polt tried to bring the game to draw conditions, rather than resigning. Why are people mad? Nerchio, Bunny, etc. you're all wrong, sorry. Strange had to know the draw conditions and know that a timer was on his ass. He was indecisive, thus a draw took place. All there is to it! | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:53 fezvez wrote: Yup, no worries, the only thing that was racing in my mind was "How does Polt stall the game for 5 minutes?" when he had only his factory left. And he did If I know the stalemate rules, you can bet the pro players do/should. I would be one to argue stalemate has no place in professional play, especially when a player puts themselves in a position that they CAN STILL WIN. It'd be different, for me personally, if there was no win condition. But Strange clearly had won the game just moments before after a few small engagements with Polt's army, I'd argue. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:55 Inflicted wrote: They should both advance and archon mode Would they have to play Zerg? | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:54 pmp10 wrote: If the timer was visible then it's a draw. A dumb unfair draw but still a draw. I believe the auto-mechanic to prevent ladder abuse shouldnt decide and especially change a result of a WCS tournament. Strange won at that point. | ||
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IAmWithStupid
Russian Federation1016 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:55 BretZ wrote: I would be one to argue stalemate has no place in professional play, especially when a player puts themselves in a position that they CAN STILL WIN. It'd be different, for me personally, if there was no win condition. But Strange clearly had won the game just moments before after a few small engagements with Polt's army, I'd argue. The trouble is, that we can't change the rules of WCS halfway through a tournament. | ||
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Vandrad
Germany951 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:53 Ej_ wrote: https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/731482043566161920 the king has spoken This honestly isn't really an argument. Stating how the rules of the tourney should be in your opinion doesn't change the way the game is designed. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45456 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:54 Ej_ wrote: tournament draws happen in games that are draws, not ones that have the outcome decided The outcome is never decided until the game is actually over (i.e., until one person's structures are eliminated or they gg/ quit the game). Come on now, don't let your emotions overrule the facts. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:55 Incognoto wrote: I don't understand why people are mad. There are win conditions for Starcraft. Kill all buildings. There are draw conditions for Starcraft. We had draw conditions. Polt tried to bring the game to draw conditions, rather than resigning. Why are people mad? Nerchio, Bunny, etc. you're all wrong, sorry. seriously.. I don't understand why people are upset either. There seems to be no actual logic behind the arguments, they are just saying "well it shouldn't be that way" okay? but it is... there's lots of stuff in sc2 that might be better if it was different... but it isn't. it's how it is... | ||
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Mangooza
89 Posts
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States764 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On May 14 2016 22:55 Incognoto wrote: I don't understand why people are mad. There are win conditions for Starcraft. Kill all buildings. There are draw conditions for Starcraft. We had draw conditions. Polt tried to bring the game to draw conditions, rather than resigning. Why are people mad? Nerchio, Bunny, etc. you're all wrong, sorry. because those draw conditions got added at a later point and are not originally part of sc2, they were purely added to improve ladder | ||
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