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Elentos
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On February 25 2016 19:08 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Seems like people figured out how to beat the 'bullshit overpowered' nydus. Too bad you can't make roaches and queens when you're not Zerg. Seriously what purpose does your comment serve? I don't think anyone complained about the nydus in ZvZ. Of course it's pretty much figured out in all MUs at this point, but how do these games prove that? | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 25 2016 19:11 TheLordofAwesome wrote: What do we know about Stats and Dark in LotV? I see that Dark 3-0ed Classic to get to this match, so he's probably favored, right? Teamkills, nothing's sure. Except that Stats doesn't look like Waldo anymore  | ||
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mCon.Hephaistas
Netherlands891 Posts
On February 25 2016 19:10 Elentos wrote: Too bad you can't make roaches and queens when you're not Zerg. Seriously what purpose does your comment serve? I don't think anyone complained about the nydus in ZvZ. Of course it's pretty much figured out in all MUs at this point, but how do these games prove that? Yesterday they looked equally bad in another matchup. But lots of people still complain about it while it's easy to stop. | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On February 25 2016 19:13 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Yesterday they looked equally bad in another matchup. But lots of people still complain about it while it's easy to stop. So comment on those games. Not a ZvZ. Nobody complained about nyduses in ZvZ. It's not broken or anything, but invulnerability is not a good game mechanic either. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 25 2016 19:15 Elentos wrote: So comment on those games. Not a ZvZ. Nobody complained about nyduses in ZvZ. It's not broken or anything, but invulnerability is not a good game mechanic either. Though the biggest issue is probably the missing delay on injects than invulnerability. | ||
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Elentos
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Cascade
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Elentos
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On February 25 2016 19:20 Cascade wrote: OP or not, I want to know how solar figured it out. He only saw no third base, and two queens on the ramp, right? My razor-sharp gold intuition would assume 2 base muta, but it seemed like solar was pretty convinced that it was a nydus. How did he manage to outperform my golden game-sense skillz?? :o Star sense. | ||
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Xaeldaren
Ireland588 Posts
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Penev
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mCon.Hephaistas
Netherlands891 Posts
On February 25 2016 19:15 Elentos wrote: So comment on those games. Not a ZvZ. Nobody complained about nyduses in ZvZ. It's not broken or anything, but invulnerability is not a good game mechanic either. Seen enough muta players complain about it. Anyway I party agree with you but if you remove it the nydus just becomes bad again and only working because your opponent never even considers it anymore. | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On February 25 2016 19:23 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Seen enough muta players complain about it. Anyway I party agree with you but if you remove it the nydus just becomes bad again and only working because your opponent never even considers it anymore. I just wish they'd given the nydus a lot of armor while it's going up instead of making it flatly invulnerable in beta. Just to try whether that works out similarly. Either way it stays an all-in mechanic. | ||
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Penev
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On February 25 2016 19:23 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Seen enough muta players complain about it. Anyway I party agree with you but if you remove it the nydus just becomes bad again and only working because your opponent never even considers it anymore. Someone proposed Nydus needing creep in yesterday's LR. That way at least it's (probably) always spotted | ||
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Elentos
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 25 2016 19:23 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Seen enough muta players complain about it. Anyway I party agree with you but if you remove it the nydus just becomes bad again and only working because your opponent never even considers it anymore. Add delay on transfuse, that's the start. Then you can add insane armor to the nydus worm(it is a worm that goes through some tough shit and survives, armor should be OK). Give it a short-term immunity - similar to vortex thing. This could make it workable. You cannot kill it with workers(armor), you need units, you cannot transfuse it with spamming transfuses like a madman(that's just pure idiocy, seeing how big burst damage you need to win against transfuses). I would try +6 armor and 4sec invulnerability. Maybe HP buff. | ||
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Durnuu
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On February 25 2016 19:27 Elentos wrote: KT clearly wins. That Samsung sweater has a weird green stripe. Yeah KT is the winner here. And SKT's are kinda bad :/ | ||
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