EPT[GSL] Code A Season 1 2016 - Day 8 - Page 16
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Please keep the balance whine down, guys. Discussion's fine, whine is not. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On February 03 2016 19:23 Mozdk wrote: Help me oh starcraft brains. This is how I saw the game: T did damage while denying 3rd. He used more scans and less mules, to be able to stay on 3 for longer without mining out as he continued to deny 3rd for a surprising amount of time. All in all setting himself up for a win... Curious picked off two full medivacs and this allowed him to get 4th and deny T 4th... T couldn't move out because of mutas. But Z messed up and lost too many mutas. Allowed T to get 4th and move out... Almost killing 5th (and 4th?) but not being able to. Still T was a tiny bit ahead in supply, but behind in income... And then ultras happened and 2 minuts later the game was over and Z won? I don't play TvZ or ZvT. I haven't watched more than maybe 20-30 games of it in LotV. Not while paying attention anyway. All I feel like is Z would never have won a game that played out like this in Hots. Am I way off or what? in tvz it's either kill him before ultras or die | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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ecnahc
United States395 Posts
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
Not the -cleanest- set I've ever seen, but definitely enjoyable. | ||
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architecture
United States643 Posts
Might as well prevent Z from dictating the engagements so you can take them. Sure you won't immediately have the ability to win on open ground, but you can fly around and rip them apart. | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On February 03 2016 19:23 Mozdk wrote: Help me oh starcraft brains. This is how I saw the game: T did damage while denying 3rd. He used more scans and less mules, to be able to stay on 3 for longer without mining out as he continued to deny 3rd for a surprising amount of time. All in all setting himself up for a win... Curious picked off two full medivacs and this allowed him to get 4th and deny T 4th... T couldn't move out because of mutas. But Z messed up and lost too many mutas. Allowed T to get 4th and move out... Almost killing 5th (and 4th?) but not being able to. Still T was a tiny bit ahead in supply, but behind in income... And then ultras happened and 2 minuts later the game was over and Z won? I don't play TvZ or ZvT. I haven't watched more than maybe 20-30 games of it in LotV. Not while paying attention anyway. All I feel like is Z would never have won a game that played out like this in Hots. Am I way off or what? You're spot on. If the game is even, or its some kind of scrappy game with lower economy than normal (like this one was), ultras fully upgraded means game over (even like 4~5 ultras) cause T doesn't have the economy to switch to ghosts | ||
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ecnahc
United States395 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 03 2016 19:23 Charoisaur wrote: in tvz it's either kill him before ultras or die That's not true | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On February 03 2016 19:23 deacon.frost wrote: Sky Terran vs Ultras wins every time. Ultras don't shoot up!  (though I cannot believe there is a Zerg player who would built ultras against sky Terran )But in theory it works!  You do build ultras vs skyterran to tank the pfs  | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24602 Posts
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ecnahc
United States395 Posts
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
He dead bros. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 03 2016 19:25 HellHound wrote: You do build ultras vs skyterran to tank the pfs My Zerg knowledge is bad  I just build gazillion banelings and channel inner Nestea | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On February 03 2016 19:25 Sif_ wrote: You're spot on. If the game is even, or its some kind of scrappy game with lower economy than normal (like this one was), ultras fully upgraded means game over (even like 4~5 ultras) cause T doesn't have the economy to switch to ghosts Well, to be fair, didn't ByuN have ~1500 floated minerals towards the end there? He could've transitioned, but he decided to go more into libs and thors instead. I definitely agree that ultras are /hard/ to beat, but they're not impossible. He also could've gone full into the counterattack style, but instead he tried to pick a fight head-on which is exactly how you get trashed by ultras when your composition sucks. I have no clue if ultras are OP, but if they are that game doesn't show it. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On February 03 2016 19:27 Elentos wrote: Baneling nydus? Oh dear. Nydus? Oh dear. | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
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