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[GSL] Code A Season 1 2016 - Day 8 - Page 18

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Please keep the balance whine down, guys. Discussion's fine, whine is not.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
February 03 2016 10:30 GMT
#341
Maddelisk - am I the only one who understood him her name?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 03 2016 10:30 GMT
#342
Byun been in jail so long he doesn't know how to spread freedom properly
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
February 03 2016 10:31 GMT
#343
On February 03 2016 19:22 Hurricaned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 19:20 graNite wrote:
I dont get why Pro Terrans stay at marines for so long... Ultras just dont die to them


well maybe if there was a terran unit that could cost effectively kill ultras but there isn't


at 8+ ultras? what about 8+ thors?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 03 2016 10:31 GMT
#344
On February 03 2016 19:30 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Byun been in jail so long he doesn't know how to spread freedom properly

if TL had a rep feature, this would probably be about the third time ever i'd use it. well played good sir.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 03 2016 10:31 GMT
#345
Bottom line: stop whining, Byun's at fault for losing the last game.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
February 03 2016 10:31 GMT
#346
byun pleaseeeeeeeeeee 2 tuirrets per base
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 03 2016 10:31 GMT
#347
On February 03 2016 19:31 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 19:22 Hurricaned wrote:
On February 03 2016 19:20 graNite wrote:
I dont get why Pro Terrans stay at marines for so long... Ultras just dont die to them


well maybe if there was a terran unit that could cost effectively kill ultras but there isn't


at 8+ ultras? what about 8+ thors?

Then no one play LBM anymore :D
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 10:32:23
February 03 2016 10:32 GMT
#348
5 liberators is the magic number, now they destroy mutas.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2399 Posts
February 03 2016 10:32 GMT
#349
On February 03 2016 19:23 Mozdk wrote:
Help me oh starcraft brains. This is how I saw the game:

T did damage while denying 3rd. He used more scans and less mules, to be able to stay on 3 for longer without mining out as he continued to deny 3rd for a surprising amount of time. All in all setting himself up for a win...

Curious picked off two full medivacs and this allowed him to get 4th and deny T 4th... T couldn't move out because of mutas. But Z messed up and lost too many mutas. Allowed T to get 4th and move out... Almost killing 5th (and 4th?) but not being able to. Still T was a tiny bit ahead in supply, but behind in income...

And then ultras happened and 2 minuts later the game was over and Z won?

I don't play TvZ or ZvT. I haven't watched more than maybe 20-30 games of it in LotV. Not while paying attention anyway.

All I feel like is Z would never have won a game that played out like this in Hots. Am I way off or what?

he made liberators to deal with the ultras and lost 5 (or 7?) to mutas without killing anything ; then was aggresively out on the map without a way to deal with ultras - sure he cant go out and fight them but he wouldnt have died if he stayed defensive till more libs or ghosts

and yea he delayed the 3rd with reapers but 3rax reaper is a pretty big commitment
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12759 Posts
February 03 2016 10:32 GMT
#350
three cc is crazyyyyy
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 03 2016 10:32 GMT
#351
On February 03 2016 19:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 19:23 Mozdk wrote:
Help me oh starcraft brains. This is how I saw the game:

T did damage while denying 3rd. He used more scans and less mules, to be able to stay on 3 for longer without mining out as he continued to deny 3rd for a surprising amount of time. All in all setting himself up for a win...

Curious picked off two full medivacs and this allowed him to get 4th and deny T 4th... T couldn't move out because of mutas. But Z messed up and lost too many mutas. Allowed T to get 4th and move out... Almost killing 5th (and 4th?) but not being able to. Still T was a tiny bit ahead in supply, but behind in income...

And then ultras happened and 2 minuts later the game was over and Z won?

I don't play TvZ or ZvT. I haven't watched more than maybe 20-30 games of it in LotV. Not while paying attention anyway.

All I feel like is Z would never have won a game that played out like this in Hots. Am I way off or what?


What happened was: Byun had 2 medivacs left, 2 medivacs right - all to deny Curious' 4th for as long as possible. Curious, knowing this, builds an army to break out.

Curious catches and kills the medivacs on the left. That basically guarantees him a 4th. He's done what he needed to in order to break out.

This is where Byun makes his first big mistake. What's the one thing you shouldn't do, knowing that Curious had been building an army to break out? Well, a frontal attack for example. But that's exactly what Byun did. Naturally he lost the fight and threw all his advantages with it. Suddenly Curious doesn't have to worry about dying anytime soon, mutas are free to go across the map, he's easily able to secure a 4th and tech to hive. All map control that Byun had immediately goes to Curious.

So Curious makes his superior army without any worries. That's when Byun made his second big mistake. He was already in a bad spot, don't get me wrong, but fighting Curious' army head on is certain death. Think about how people dealt with BL/infestor. You didn't fight it, you killed their whole economy first, then slowly chipped away at their army until they dried up and had nothing left. If you fought it, you died.

Well, that's what Byun did.


I believe you are right in your points. Pretty big mistake to make. Hi might have been so scared of ultras that he felt like he had to take a fight. Especially since he did not get up his 4th.

But more harass was probably better.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
February 03 2016 10:32 GMT
#352
He got valked
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 10:32:36
February 03 2016 10:32 GMT
#353
On February 03 2016 19:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Bottom line: stop whining, Byun's at fault for losing the last game.

But I like to make fun of the whining posts!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
February 03 2016 10:32 GMT
#354
Curious' muta anti-splash micro is nice
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 03 2016 10:32 GMT
#355
The comeback is on!
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 03 2016 10:33 GMT
#356
It's been so long since this was relevant, but that push was aimed at forcing units instead of drones.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 03 2016 10:33 GMT
#357
Yo byun can u please go kill him jesus xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 03 2016 10:33 GMT
#358
On February 03 2016 19:33 Ghanburighan wrote:
It's been so long since this was relevant, but that push was aimed at forcing units instead of drones.

True, but why he is miles ahead go win the game
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2399 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 10:33:49
February 03 2016 10:33 GMT
#359
oops
Progamer
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 03 2016 10:34 GMT
#360
ROFL
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