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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 01 2016 11:55 GMT
#441
On February 01 2016 20:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:53 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:50 -Kyo- wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:48 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:47 TT1 wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:47 sharkie wrote:
PvP has finally become a good matchup. no more stupid amoving of units


thats easy to say when ur not a protoss player, disruptor wars are so coinflippy

its like bane vs bane just micro ;d


bane vs bane at 10 minutes with 150+supply armies that all die at once.

icugurl

yea bane bane at 3 minutes vs disruptor disruptor at 10 min

and once you get to roaches/tempests you're safe for the most part

how does it make a difference what the supply is ; you can instalose the game just as easy in both situations

Not sure if scarlett is defending protoss or attacking zerg...

Trying to show us that we are all one big family

So we can go fuck up those terran mother fuckers real bad.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 01 2016 11:55 GMT
#442
On February 01 2016 20:53 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:51 HellHound wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:50 hansonslee wrote:
I know a lot of you guys hate disruptors, but at the same time, I think it's nice to see how disruptors can lead to come backs. I mean, come on, guys, do you watch real sports? When you play basketball, and you are behind by 20 points, there's always a chance to make a comeback, and that's what makes certain sports exciting!

If you remove disruptors, do you want to go back to Colossus deathballs?

Yes.


So....

Do you watch sports? Or do you want Colossus deathballs back?



I watch loads of sports and so far i preferred colossus. Maybe Disruptors will grow on me, but not yet.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18508 Posts
February 01 2016 11:55 GMT
#443
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 01 2016 11:56 GMT
#444
Take it to ace Stats.

Need TY ace points to cover Losira's flop
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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2392 Posts
February 01 2016 11:56 GMT
#445
On February 01 2016 20:55 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:49 Penev wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:45 y0su wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:38 Penev wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:34 Superbanana wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:31 deacon.frost wrote:
I really hope that some day people here will get the mask thingy too. I really hate when my colleagues at work are all coughing around...

Agreed, in the west its weird, but it should be common sense :/

I don't mind the masks but do know they actually do nothing to stop spreading colds etc.

I thought they helped reduce spread if the carrier wore them (making the practice make even more sense).
I still remember my first ride along and had to be corrected to mask the patient instead of myself :p

that was my conception as well
some microorganisms spread through the air, so naturally if you put barriers to the air, they spread less

Of course but research shows colds in South Korea for instance spread just as fast as in countries without the masks, at least that's what I've read.

hmm interesting, I didn't know that

I think y0su hit the nail on the head; The masks are still sources of contamination, they only shorten the range (no sneezes and coughs). But the range is still within how physically close generally people are. Makes sense. That plus the touch thing.

hes wearing the mask cuz he just went to the dermatologist before coming to the venue; protecting skin or something
Progamer
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 01 2016 11:56 GMT
#446
Reality, give me those terran points!

4/6 terrans shall pay off
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 01 2016 11:56 GMT
#447
On February 01 2016 20:52 The_Templar wrote:
Proleague: KT vs Samsung

(P)Stats vs (T)Reality
1-2

Map: Ruins of Seras

Stats spawns in the bottom left
Reality spawns in the top right

20:53 KST
Stats goes gate/gas/nexus.
Reality opens 1rax expand with gas and gets a reactor.

20:54 KST
Robotics facility for Stats.
Factory being made by Reality, followed by a starport.
Twilight council stats for Stats.
Stats getting an adept.

20:55 KST
Two more gateways are added.
Reality is building hellions and a medivac.
Stats researches Blink.

20:56 KST
Stats moves out an observer and sees a marine drop coming.
Hellions move towards the natural as the marines land.
11 probes are killed by hellions but the entire drop and half the hellions are killed in exchange.
Warp prism being researched.
Stim on the way for Reality.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 01 2016 11:56 GMT
#448
On February 01 2016 20:53 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:52 Golgotha wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:50 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
I dont know why people are hating the disruptor, if that was HOTS and someone has 10 collosus vs your 6 collosus game is over... that game Zest had a much larger army, but couldnt just A move into Dear cause of the disruptors, and when he rushed and failed with his micro he payed Dearly xD


seriously. id rather have toss be a micro battle than the stupid a move shitfest it promoted through WOL and HOTS. fuck collossus. id take disruptor every time


This. No expert could ever predict a PvP colossus fight correctly, not even the players lol


even in pvz and pvt, it was really boring to watch. pew pew, a move a bit, pew pew, a move again and hope opponent doesnt have air counter.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
February 01 2016 11:56 GMT
#449
They should reduce hellion damage vs light units by 1
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
February 01 2016 11:57 GMT
#450
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


It's brainless to let all your stalkers die. It should be punished I guess.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
February 01 2016 11:57 GMT
#451
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


I don't think you can call disruptor shots "brainless mechanics" because if you misfire, then your disruptors are fucked. I think colossus are more reflective of "brainless mechanics" with its high 1-A tendencies.
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
February 01 2016 11:57 GMT
#452
On February 01 2016 20:55 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:53 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:50 -Kyo- wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:48 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:47 TT1 wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:47 sharkie wrote:
PvP has finally become a good matchup. no more stupid amoving of units


thats easy to say when ur not a protoss player, disruptor wars are so coinflippy

its like bane vs bane just micro ;d


bane vs bane at 10 minutes with 150+supply armies that all die at once.

icugurl

yea bane bane at 3 minutes vs disruptor disruptor at 10 min

and once you get to roaches/tempests you're safe for the most part

how does it make a difference what the supply is ; you can instalose the game just as easy in both situations

Not sure if scarlett is defending protoss or attacking zerg...

Trying to show us that we are all one big family

So we can go fuck up those terran mother fuckers real bad.

As someone who plays both Z and P, I say hell ya!
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 01 2016 11:57 GMT
#453
Early third and double forge. Stats doesn't give a shit.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 01 2016 11:57 GMT
#454
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
February 01 2016 11:57 GMT
#455
On February 01 2016 20:56 Superbanana wrote:
They should reduce hellion damage vs light units by 1

They did nerf hellbat remember?
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 01 2016 11:58 GMT
#456
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


yes. because collossus was a lot less brainless.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
February 01 2016 11:58 GMT
#457
On February 01 2016 20:56 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:55 Penev wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:49 Penev wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:45 y0su wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:38 Penev wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:34 Superbanana wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:31 deacon.frost wrote:
I really hope that some day people here will get the mask thingy too. I really hate when my colleagues at work are all coughing around...

Agreed, in the west its weird, but it should be common sense :/

I don't mind the masks but do know they actually do nothing to stop spreading colds etc.

I thought they helped reduce spread if the carrier wore them (making the practice make even more sense).
I still remember my first ride along and had to be corrected to mask the patient instead of myself :p

that was my conception as well
some microorganisms spread through the air, so naturally if you put barriers to the air, they spread less

Of course but research shows colds in South Korea for instance spread just as fast as in countries without the masks, at least that's what I've read.

hmm interesting, I didn't know that

I think y0su hit the nail on the head; The masks are still sources of contamination, they only shorten the range (no sneezes and coughs). But the range is still within how physically close generally people are. Makes sense. That plus the touch thing.

hes wearing the mask cuz he just went to the dermatologist before coming to the venue; protecting skin or something

Well, the mask certainly helps to prevent people seeing whatever is under it
Hope it's nothing serious
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2392 Posts
February 01 2016 11:59 GMT
#458
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

in a >real time< strategy game you have to control your units in >real time< not just only strategize
otherwise it would just be S not RTS
Progamer
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 01 2016 11:59 GMT
#459
stats is a brood war beast. he will not lose
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
February 01 2016 11:59 GMT
#460
I think disruptor wars would be way better, if you had to shoot disruptor shot to specific point while showing the point to opponent. Now it feels too reliant on just hitting the shot
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