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We have seen a rise in balance whine recently, so we're going to be moderating LR threads more harshly. Please try to keep the LR a happy place.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 01 2016 11:59 GMT
#461
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

It's like fighting games but less cool.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 01 2016 11:59 GMT
#462
On February 01 2016 20:58 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


yes. because collossus was a lot less brainless.


Wrong! But I guess people who don't understand protoss at a high enough level won't understand that.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 01 2016 11:59 GMT
#463
On February 01 2016 20:59 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

in a >real time< strategy game you have to control your units in >real time< not just only strategize
otherwise it would just be S not RTS


lmao. served.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#464
"as you can see" no healthbars
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#465
On February 01 2016 20:56 The_Templar wrote:
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On February 01 2016 20:52 The_Templar wrote:
Proleague: KT vs Samsung

(P)Stats vs (T)Reality
1-2

Map: Ruins of Seras

Stats spawns in the bottom left
Reality spawns in the top right

20:53 KST
Stats goes gate/gas/nexus.
Reality opens 1rax expand with gas and gets a reactor.

20:54 KST
Robotics facility for Stats.
Factory being made by Reality, followed by a starport.
Twilight council stats for Stats.
Stats getting an adept.

20:55 KST
Two more gateways are added.
Reality is building hellions and a medivac.
Stats researches Blink.

20:56 KST
Stats moves out an observer and sees a marine drop coming.
Hellions move towards the natural as the marines land.
11 probes are killed by hellions but the entire drop and half the hellions are killed in exchange.
Warp prism being researched.
Stim on the way for Reality.

20:57 (P)Stats 71 vs (T)Reality 71
Widow mine drop gets 4 probes.
Stats getting two forges.
Two observers are casually hanging out in Reality's main base.
A third base has finished for Stats.

20:59 (P)Stats 91 vs (T)Reality 86
Reality gets two hellions in the main and 2 mines in the natural, killing 3 workers.
Stats harasses with blink and kills 4 workers.
Third CC is being made by Reality.
+2/2 starts for Stats.
Stats gets a viking with stalkers.

21:00 (P)Stats 112 vs (T)Reality 123
Stats starts to research storm and gets 3 more gateways.
Reality starting +1 armor.
Reality moves some of his units towards the center has he moves a CC to the third.
Stats taking a fourth base.
Reality moving out 3 medivacs of units.
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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#466
On February 01 2016 20:59 Golgotha wrote:
stats is a brood war beast. he will not lose


Most Broodwar beasts have retired though.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#467
Oh storm how i love thee
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#468
On February 01 2016 20:59 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

in a >real time< strategy game you have to control your units in >real time< not just only strategize
otherwise it would just be S not RTS


Yes, but if one control mistake overshadows all other aspects of the game, that's pretty dumb. And that's what PvP is atm.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#469
On February 01 2016 20:59 Welmu wrote:
I think disruptor wars would be way better, if you had to shoot disruptor shot to specific point while showing the point to opponent. Now it feels too reliant on just hitting the shot


I'm pretty sure Blizzard will look into it, if the disruptor wars feel too coin-flippy, which is definitely possible.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#470
On February 01 2016 20:59 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

in a >real time< strategy game you have to control your units in >real time< not just only strategize
otherwise it would just be S not RTS


And your opponent is moving at the same time as you are.

okay let's stop bullying Olli
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#471
On February 01 2016 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:58 Golgotha wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


yes. because collossus was a lot less brainless.


Wrong! But I guess people who don't understand protoss at a high enough level won't understand that.


you are giving me some great insight into the mind of the average blizzard SC2 developer
BW4LIFE
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 01 2016 12:01 GMT
#472
stats is so good at defending. damn damn.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
February 01 2016 12:01 GMT
#473
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

Strategy part is largely in the build order and not exciting to watch
I guess some people do appreciate that
But then other people will complain about so called build order win
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
February 01 2016 12:01 GMT
#474
On February 01 2016 20:59 Welmu wrote:
I think disruptor wars would be way better, if you had to shoot disruptor shot to specific point while showing the point to opponent. Now it feels too reliant on just hitting the shot

So basically Corrosive Bile?
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#475
On February 01 2016 21:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:59 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

in a >real time< strategy game you have to control your units in >real time< not just only strategize
otherwise it would just be S not RTS


Yes, but if one control mistake overshadows all other aspects of the game, that's pretty dumb. And that's what PvP is atm.


Depend on how big of a mistake it is.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#476
DIE TERRAN SCUM DIE
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#477
holy shit stats is showing awesome play
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#478
Nice defense by stats
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#479
this game is close, but Stats economy is just too good I think, plus upgrades
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#480
ACE match would be TY vs Dear.
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