• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:14
CET 11:14
KST 19:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1819Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered?
Tourneys
SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread How Panthegel 5 gm Helps Repair the Eye Surface Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 761 users

[SPL] Round 1 2016 - KT Rolster vs Samsung - Page 24

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 39 Next All
We have seen a rise in balance whine recently, so we're going to be moderating LR threads more harshly. Please try to keep the LR a happy place.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 01 2016 11:59 GMT
#461
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

It's like fighting games but less cool.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 01 2016 11:59 GMT
#462
On February 01 2016 20:58 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


yes. because collossus was a lot less brainless.


Wrong! But I guess people who don't understand protoss at a high enough level won't understand that.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 01 2016 11:59 GMT
#463
On February 01 2016 20:59 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

in a >real time< strategy game you have to control your units in >real time< not just only strategize
otherwise it would just be S not RTS


lmao. served.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#464
"as you can see" no healthbars
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#465
On February 01 2016 20:56 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:52 The_Templar wrote:
Proleague: KT vs Samsung

(P)Stats vs (T)Reality
1-2

Map: Ruins of Seras

Stats spawns in the bottom left
Reality spawns in the top right

20:53 KST
Stats goes gate/gas/nexus.
Reality opens 1rax expand with gas and gets a reactor.

20:54 KST
Robotics facility for Stats.
Factory being made by Reality, followed by a starport.
Twilight council stats for Stats.
Stats getting an adept.

20:55 KST
Two more gateways are added.
Reality is building hellions and a medivac.
Stats researches Blink.

20:56 KST
Stats moves out an observer and sees a marine drop coming.
Hellions move towards the natural as the marines land.
11 probes are killed by hellions but the entire drop and half the hellions are killed in exchange.
Warp prism being researched.
Stim on the way for Reality.

20:57 (P)Stats 71 vs (T)Reality 71
Widow mine drop gets 4 probes.
Stats getting two forges.
Two observers are casually hanging out in Reality's main base.
A third base has finished for Stats.

20:59 (P)Stats 91 vs (T)Reality 86
Reality gets two hellions in the main and 2 mines in the natural, killing 3 workers.
Stats harasses with blink and kills 4 workers.
Third CC is being made by Reality.
+2/2 starts for Stats.
Stats gets a viking with stalkers.

21:00 (P)Stats 112 vs (T)Reality 123
Stats starts to research storm and gets 3 more gateways.
Reality starting +1 armor.
Reality moves some of his units towards the center has he moves a CC to the third.
Stats taking a fourth base.
Reality moving out 3 medivacs of units.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#466
On February 01 2016 20:59 Golgotha wrote:
stats is a brood war beast. he will not lose


Most Broodwar beasts have retired though.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#467
Oh storm how i love thee
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#468
On February 01 2016 20:59 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

in a >real time< strategy game you have to control your units in >real time< not just only strategize
otherwise it would just be S not RTS


Yes, but if one control mistake overshadows all other aspects of the game, that's pretty dumb. And that's what PvP is atm.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#469
On February 01 2016 20:59 Welmu wrote:
I think disruptor wars would be way better, if you had to shoot disruptor shot to specific point while showing the point to opponent. Now it feels too reliant on just hitting the shot


I'm pretty sure Blizzard will look into it, if the disruptor wars feel too coin-flippy, which is definitely possible.
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#470
On February 01 2016 20:59 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

in a >real time< strategy game you have to control your units in >real time< not just only strategize
otherwise it would just be S not RTS


And your opponent is moving at the same time as you are.

okay let's stop bullying Olli
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
February 01 2016 12:00 GMT
#471
On February 01 2016 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:58 Golgotha wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


yes. because collossus was a lot less brainless.


Wrong! But I guess people who don't understand protoss at a high enough level won't understand that.


you are giving me some great insight into the mind of the average blizzard SC2 developer
BW4LIFE
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 01 2016 12:01 GMT
#472
stats is so good at defending. damn damn.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
February 01 2016 12:01 GMT
#473
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

Strategy part is largely in the build order and not exciting to watch
I guess some people do appreciate that
But then other people will complain about so called build order win
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
February 01 2016 12:01 GMT
#474
On February 01 2016 20:59 Welmu wrote:
I think disruptor wars would be way better, if you had to shoot disruptor shot to specific point while showing the point to opponent. Now it feels too reliant on just hitting the shot

So basically Corrosive Bile?
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#475
On February 01 2016 21:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 20:59 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


you probably should switch the genre then, this is RTS not TBS


Real time... strategy? What's that?

in a >real time< strategy game you have to control your units in >real time< not just only strategize
otherwise it would just be S not RTS


Yes, but if one control mistake overshadows all other aspects of the game, that's pretty dumb. And that's what PvP is atm.


Depend on how big of a mistake it is.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#476
DIE TERRAN SCUM DIE
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#477
holy shit stats is showing awesome play
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#478
Nice defense by stats
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#479
this game is close, but Stats economy is just too good I think, plus upgrades
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 01 2016 12:02 GMT
#480
ACE match would be TY vs Dear.
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 154
Creator 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 709
Jaedong 572
PianO 536
Stork 394
Larva 332
actioN 322
Hyun 172
Leta 169
Hyuk 168
ZerO 117
[ Show more ]
Mini 113
Sharp 76
ggaemo 69
ToSsGirL 68
Light 65
Rush 61
Mong 58
Mind 57
EffOrt 53
Soma 52
Killer 49
sorry 49
Barracks 47
hero 35
Bale 34
soO 25
JYJ 22
Nal_rA 19
zelot 16
yabsab 15
Sacsri 14
Movie 7
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
Noble 5
Pusan 1
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm96
League of Legends
JimRising 584
C9.Mang0533
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss942
Other Games
summit1g7978
ceh9436
Fuzer 77
ZerO(Twitch)19
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Adnapsc2 14
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2260
• Stunt816
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 46m
Korean StarCraft League
16h 46m
OSC
1d 1h
IPSL
1d 3h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
1d 7h
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Patches Events
3 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S1: W2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.