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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
January 09 2016 20:23 GMT
#221
On January 10 2016 05:19 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:17 Poopi wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:12 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote:
[quote]Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays.
Is he a top foreigner?


Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer?

Because he is about as good as state?


Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder?
Passion or Poor life choices take your pick.
What are you even arguing for anymore :D
I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill


I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm

And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players.


top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament.


It's Kr ffs.

Brasilians players were top90 KR, KR doesn't seem to mean much now haha


When you say "players" you mean exactly Kelazhur. And last I checked he was a pro gamers. So you are arguying against me, with an argument that supports me. Thank you.

What no?
He said top 100 KR GM is shit in EU and you said "it's KR" like top 100 KR is amazing and I said it's not xd.
Idc much about the debate on livings and such, it's obviously depending on where you live. Pro players from Poland make a lot of money if you consider the mean salary in Poland, but for Swiss it'd be hard.
WriterMaru
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
January 09 2016 20:23 GMT
#222
fast third
sentry blink stalker all in with 4 gas or chargelot immotal ?
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
January 09 2016 20:23 GMT
#223
On January 10 2016 05:21 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:20 Penev wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:19 HellHound wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:18 Squat wrote:
Well, at least we have confirmation that State's time in Korea has indeed transformed him into the undisputed foreign hope.

He is korean now he can no longer be the hope.
And that is the only reason he isn't the foreign hope.

He became hopetorture?

D:

wtf happened to Rainbow?

Dunno, he is (was) the fiance of Aphrodite according to liquipedia
I Protoss winner, could it be?
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
January 09 2016 20:24 GMT
#224
double phoenix implies chargelot immortal
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 09 2016 20:24 GMT
#225
On January 10 2016 05:23 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:19 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:17 Poopi wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:12 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:
[quote]

Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer?

Because he is about as good as state?


Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder?
Passion or Poor life choices take your pick.
What are you even arguing for anymore :D
I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill


I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm

And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players.


top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament.


It's Kr ffs.

Brasilians players were top90 KR, KR doesn't seem to mean much now haha


When you say "players" you mean exactly Kelazhur. And last I checked he was a pro gamers. So you are arguying against me, with an argument that supports me. Thank you.

What no?
He said top 100 KR GM is shit in EU and you said "it's KR" like top 100 KR is amazing and I said it's not xd.
Idc much about the debate on livings and such, it's obviously depending on where you live. Pro players from Poland make a lot of money if you consider the mean salary in Poland, but for Swiss it'd be hard.


The best place right now is probably somewhere in EU with a good internet connection and quite a low living cost. Would be fun to determine exactly where. Not far from an airport is pretty cool too.
Zest fanboy.
A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
January 09 2016 20:25 GMT
#226
On January 10 2016 05:23 HellHound wrote:
fast third
sentry blink stalker all in with 4 gas or chargelot immotal ?



Sentry is to prevent Baneling/Ling all in. It happens sometimes on korea. When you have sentry then zerg cannot go up that little ramp between mainbase and third

I often use Baneling versus protoss on central protocol it works very well they are never prepared.
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/3949980/1/llllllllllll/
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
January 09 2016 20:25 GMT
#227
Like spore placement
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 09 2016 20:25 GMT
#228
On January 10 2016 05:23 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:19 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:17 Poopi wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:12 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:
[quote]

Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer?

Because he is about as good as state?


Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder?
Passion or Poor life choices take your pick.
What are you even arguing for anymore :D
I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill


I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm

And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players.


top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament.


It's Kr ffs.

Brasilians players were top90 KR, KR doesn't seem to mean much now haha


When you say "players" you mean exactly Kelazhur. And last I checked he was a pro gamers. So you are arguying against me, with an argument that supports me. Thank you.

What no?
He said top 100 KR GM is shit in EU and you said "it's KR" like top 100 KR is amazing and I said it's not xd.
Idc much about the debate on livings and such, it's obviously depending on where you live. Pro players from Poland make a lot of money if you consider the mean salary in Poland, but for Swiss it'd be hard.


"top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro."

How would that mean that top 100 Kr GM is shit on EU GM. I don't think that's what he meant. At least it's not what he wrote.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
January 09 2016 20:26 GMT
#229
On January 10 2016 05:25 A_needle_jog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:23 HellHound wrote:
fast third
sentry blink stalker all in with 4 gas or chargelot immotal ?



Sentry is to prevent Baneling/Ling all in. It happens sometimes on korea. When you have sentry then zerg cannot go up that little ramp between mainbase and third

I often use Baneling versus protoss on central protocol it works very well they are never prepared.

How often do you get central btw?
I have 3 games on it out of 300
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 09 2016 20:26 GMT
#230
On January 10 2016 05:25 A_needle_jog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:23 HellHound wrote:
fast third
sentry blink stalker all in with 4 gas or chargelot immotal ?



Sentry is to prevent Baneling/Ling all in. It happens sometimes on korea. When you have sentry then zerg cannot go up that little ramp between mainbase and third

I often use Baneling versus protoss on central protocol it works very well they are never prepared.


I think sentries are a bit underused right now. If you don't go stargate getting the hallucinated scout is awesome.
Zest fanboy.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 09 2016 20:26 GMT
#231
Too many phoenix lost.

Is overlord sacking a thing of the past?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
January 09 2016 20:26 GMT
#232
is chargelots/archon how PvZ is played in korea?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 09 2016 20:27 GMT
#233
On January 10 2016 05:26 Topin wrote:
is chargelots/archon how PvZ is played in korea?


played everywhere. chargelots/archon/immortal
Zest fanboy.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 09 2016 20:27 GMT
#234
On January 10 2016 05:26 Topin wrote:
is chargelots/archon how PvZ is played in korea?


Yes but it's timing based. Very powerful around 8 mins. At 12 it's gg.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
January 09 2016 20:27 GMT
#235
On January 10 2016 05:20 Ppjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:17 Poopi wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:12 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:
On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote:
[quote]Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays.
Is he a top foreigner?


Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer?

Because he is about as good as state?


Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder?
Passion or Poor life choices take your pick.
What are you even arguing for anymore :D
I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill


I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm

And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players.


top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament.


It's Kr ffs.

Brasilians players were top90 KR, KR doesn't seem to mean much now haha


Don't be that focused on ladder. Pro players don't pay attention to ranking, it is just everyday practice outside CG and tournaments.
For example, Stephano used to quit a ladder game if he was not satisfied with injections or other stuff. He could try 10 times in a row a specific build order just to know if it was worth it.


When Stephano was in his prime he was doing 61-2 runs and things like that.
When Bomber and MarineKing were tearing it up in the GSL they also destroyed the ladder.
The top of the ladder always meant something, it's just that some players were too predictable or too nervous in tourneys but the ladder has been quite a good indicator of form :o
WriterMaru
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
January 09 2016 20:27 GMT
#236
On January 10 2016 05:27 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:26 Topin wrote:
is chargelots/archon how PvZ is played in korea?


played everywhere. chargelots/archon/immortal

really? how you deal with lurkers?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
January 09 2016 20:27 GMT
#237
On January 10 2016 05:26 Mozdk wrote:
Too many phoenix lost.

Is overlord sacking a thing of the past?


depends on skill level. Scarlett is really good and knows the game like a hand knows a fitting glove. She can read what happens without scouting.

I always scout because I am afraid haha :D
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/3949980/1/llllllllllll/
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
January 09 2016 20:28 GMT
#238
Losing a hatch is fine when you are maxed
Also I think state will die to counter
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
January 09 2016 20:28 GMT
#239
Why are these casters calling her Shura? She didn't actually change her name did she?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 09 2016 20:28 GMT
#240
On January 10 2016 05:27 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 05:27 sAsImre wrote:
On January 10 2016 05:26 Topin wrote:
is chargelots/archon how PvZ is played in korea?


played everywhere. chargelots/archon/immortal

really? how you deal with lurkers?


you go with a decent concave. you kill everything and then immortals/archons are left and destroy lurkers. If the Z stands on top of them there is some nice splash. It obviously doesn't work against mass lurker but you can transition into everything while going for some harassment.
Zest fanboy.
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