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On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 04:57 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:51 Ppjack wrote:On January 10 2016 04:43 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:38 A_needle_jog wrote:On January 10 2016 04:33 Mozdk wrote:
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I'm not saying she's a scrub. I'm saying State is the best foreigner atm. Or very close to. How can he be the best foreigner? I am of very different opinion there. Maybe if we see results soon. I can't find any notable achievements from "State", but maybe he will be good in future? Lets see and wait. For now I don't think State is Top5 foreigner. Edit : WOW scarlett creep spread is monster Results from which tournaments? He hasn't been playing the EU/NA tournaments yet. It's also just my opinion. I've watched all top Protoss streams. And State has some skills that none of the others come near. You should watch his stream. You'll be a believer in no time. If you ever watch streams that aren't zerg. being the best protoss streamer does not get you even close to be top foreigner... showtime/lilbow/ptitdrogo don't even stream, and Mana and others are still better. and that's only talking about protoss players, he is not even top 20 foreigners imo Have you even seen him play? Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays. Is he a top foreigner? Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer? Because he is about as good as state? Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder? Passion or Poor life choices take your pick. What are you even arguing for anymore :D I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill
I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm 
And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players.
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OH SCARLETT VERSUS STATE !
Now we see how good State is haha. I say scarlett easy win 2:0
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On January 10 2016 05:10 A_needle_jog wrote:OH SCARLETT VERSUS STATE ! Now we see how good State is haha. I say scarlett easy win 2:0
We'll see yes
Gl hf.
Hope he can play with that ping. He was whining about it at first. No ravanger or muta he said.
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On January 10 2016 05:09 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 05:06 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 05:03 sAsImre wrote:On January 10 2016 05:02 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 04:58 A_needle_jog wrote:On January 10 2016 04:56 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 04:52 A_needle_jog wrote:On January 10 2016 04:50 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 04:49 A_needle_jog wrote:On January 10 2016 04:43 Mozdk wrote:
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Results from which tournaments? He hasn't been playing the EU/NA tournaments yet. It's also just my opinion. I've watched all top Protoss streams. And State has some skills that none of the others come near. You should watch his stream. You'll be a believer in no time. If you ever watch streams that aren't zerg.
It is hard to watch Protoss streams for me. They are very slow and I get bored after 1-2 matches. I need some high speed APM action  Maybe you are right and he will be good in future. He in korea training? Does he play GSL or other korea tournaments? It would be cool to see good foreigner in korea agian like IdrA or Jinro back in WoL Huk got ignored so bad Oh sorry I forgot. Mistake happen. I make mistake away "It would be cool to see good foreigner in korea agian like HUK, idra or jinro back in WoL " He lives in Korea and has been training there for 2 years or so. He was on Prime before and tried to qualify for GSL etc. but without success so far. He is playing a lot right now though and MC will coach him once a week at his place, so I still think he should become really good in the long run. Hmm that doesn't sound too good sadly  Well let's see how he does in the new expansion. You should catch his stream and check him out once. He is rank 36 GM on Korea right now, not sure how much that means though. Was he 36 before the bonus pool thing happen? GM rank means shit for some week until it fixes itself. 36 is pretty good when the ladder works well. Not sure what you mean with the bonus pool thing, but I think he was rank around 70 before the reset? Not sure, but I saw him around those ranks before when he streamed. They didn't reset. They fucked up by locking the ladder way too early then unlocked it and gifted 200+ bonus pool to everyone. That kicked everyone out of GM and it's no filled with people with shitty mmr and basically mean shit until it's fixed. Which will probably be next season. There are players who got their 1st gm sitting in the top 50 atm in Europe. Yeah rank 70ish is what I saw too. Around "retired" ForGG's lvl.
Ohhh that's what happened, haha fail.
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On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 04:57 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:51 Ppjack wrote:On January 10 2016 04:43 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:38 A_needle_jog wrote:
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How can he be the best foreigner? I am of very different opinion there. Maybe if we see results soon. I can't find any notable achievements from "State", but maybe he will be good in future?
Lets see and wait. For now I don't think State is Top5 foreigner.
Edit : WOW scarlett creep spread is monster
Results from which tournaments? He hasn't been playing the EU/NA tournaments yet. It's also just my opinion. I've watched all top Protoss streams. And State has some skills that none of the others come near. You should watch his stream. You'll be a believer in no time. If you ever watch streams that aren't zerg. being the best protoss streamer does not get you even close to be top foreigner... showtime/lilbow/ptitdrogo don't even stream, and Mana and others are still better. and that's only talking about protoss players, he is not even top 20 foreigners imo Have you even seen him play? Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays. Is he a top foreigner? Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer? Because he is about as good as state? Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder? Passion or Poor life choices take your pick. What are you even arguing for anymore :D I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players.
Make a living how. Where do the money come from?
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On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 04:57 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:51 Ppjack wrote:On January 10 2016 04:43 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:38 A_needle_jog wrote:
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How can he be the best foreigner? I am of very different opinion there. Maybe if we see results soon. I can't find any notable achievements from "State", but maybe he will be good in future?
Lets see and wait. For now I don't think State is Top5 foreigner.
Edit : WOW scarlett creep spread is monster
Results from which tournaments? He hasn't been playing the EU/NA tournaments yet. It's also just my opinion. I've watched all top Protoss streams. And State has some skills that none of the others come near. You should watch his stream. You'll be a believer in no time. If you ever watch streams that aren't zerg. being the best protoss streamer does not get you even close to be top foreigner... showtime/lilbow/ptitdrogo don't even stream, and Mana and others are still better. and that's only talking about protoss players, he is not even top 20 foreigners imo Have you even seen him play? Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays. Is he a top foreigner? Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer? Because he is about as good as state? Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder? Passion or Poor life choices take your pick. What are you even arguing for anymore :D I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players.
top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament.
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On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 04:57 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:51 Ppjack wrote:On January 10 2016 04:43 Mozdk wrote:
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Results from which tournaments? He hasn't been playing the EU/NA tournaments yet. It's also just my opinion. I've watched all top Protoss streams. And State has some skills that none of the others come near. You should watch his stream. You'll be a believer in no time. If you ever watch streams that aren't zerg.
being the best protoss streamer does not get you even close to be top foreigner... showtime/lilbow/ptitdrogo don't even stream, and Mana and others are still better. and that's only talking about protoss players, he is not even top 20 foreigners imo Have you even seen him play? Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays. Is he a top foreigner? Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer? Because he is about as good as state? Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder? Passion or Poor life choices take your pick. What are you even arguing for anymore :D I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players. top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament.
It's Kr ffs.
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Well we will see how good State is right now, although he has a bad ping I think.
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On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 04:57 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:51 Ppjack wrote:On January 10 2016 04:43 Mozdk wrote:
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Results from which tournaments? He hasn't been playing the EU/NA tournaments yet. It's also just my opinion. I've watched all top Protoss streams. And State has some skills that none of the others come near. You should watch his stream. You'll be a believer in no time. If you ever watch streams that aren't zerg.
being the best protoss streamer does not get you even close to be top foreigner... showtime/lilbow/ptitdrogo don't even stream, and Mana and others are still better. and that's only talking about protoss players, he is not even top 20 foreigners imo Have you even seen him play? Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays. Is he a top foreigner? Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer? Because he is about as good as state? Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder? Passion or Poor life choices take your pick. What are you even arguing for anymore :D I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players. top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament.
Team, stream, sponsors, tournaments.
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Hmmm State has a 300+ping apparently, rejoice people, we got an excuse if he looses! :D
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On January 10 2016 05:12 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote:On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 04:57 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:51 Ppjack wrote:
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being the best protoss streamer does not get you even close to be top foreigner... showtime/lilbow/ptitdrogo don't even stream, and Mana and others are still better.
and that's only talking about protoss players, he is not even top 20 foreigners imo Have you even seen him play? Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays. Is he a top foreigner? Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer? Because he is about as good as state? Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder? Passion or Poor life choices take your pick. What are you even arguing for anymore :D I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players. top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament. It's Kr ffs.
And how do you make any income in KR? State isn't getting any Olimoleague Money, not even thinking about GSL/SSL. You can live the progamer dream but you aren't exactly winning any esports dollars.
I actually respect his choice but you precisely don't go to Kr for money.
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It's because she was supply blocked earlier, her macro is a bit off
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On January 10 2016 05:14 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 05:12 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote:On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 05:04 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote:On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote:On January 10 2016 04:57 Mozdk wrote:
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Have you even seen him play?
Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME?
I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays. Is he a top foreigner? Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer? Because he is about as good as state? Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder? Passion or Poor life choices take your pick. What are you even arguing for anymore :D I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players. top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament. It's Kr ffs. And how do you make any income in KR? State isn't getting any Olimoleague Money, not even thinking about GSL/SSL. You can live the progamer dream but you aren't exactly winning any esports dollars.
Well State is living off streaming without a team. As a rank 80 ish player. So ofc you can do it easy with a team.
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He really ran straight into the lurkers, lmao.
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State, what the actual fuck?
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okay that was just horrible
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It is such a pleasure to watch Scarlett. So many workes and that creep spread.
Great timing on the Lurker.
Scarlett is uber-human haha
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EPT
