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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 20 2015 22:57 GMT
#1941
On December 21 2015 07:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:53 Deathstar wrote:
Hyun is helping MMA and not Scarlett or Nerchio, 2 zerg players on the same team -.-

Communicating in Korean is probably more helpful for MMA than English. Or maybe those other two don't care, idk.


I keep forgetting about the language barrier. good point
rip passion
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
December 20 2015 22:57 GMT
#1942
On December 21 2015 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
blizzard doesn't realize that this nydus mechanic right now is laughable? How can such a thing even be in the game? It already was a bad game mechanic in hots/wol, but in lotv it's just ridiculously bad

If they had some different mechanic for placing the nydus (like you need creep in place - not just vision) or didn't allow them to be healed by queens?
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 22:58:54
December 20 2015 22:57 GMT
#1943
On December 21 2015 07:55 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:54 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Theory crafting question here.

How good is surrounding nydus with ebays?

Is it so good that it's worth clearing your production queues to surround the nydus?

can't zerg just start another nydus?


Not in parallel. Only serially.

In my mind's eye, you can surround with half-built ebays. Kill nydus, cancel ebays, repeat.

You lose 25% per ebay, but if you don't have the units and just need time, it seems preferable to insta-gg.
Not sure, however, since I haven't played SC2 heavily in years.
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
December 20 2015 22:57 GMT
#1944
I like how people complain about the nydus whenever MMA loses to it, but no one cares when he wins ^^ that's kind of funny ;p
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8320 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 22:58:30
December 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1945
On December 21 2015 07:53 weathEr wrote:
Guys does anyone has the build order for the Nydus build vs Terran? :D


I think it was this one:
+ Show Spoiler +


Found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MTBYOsvDfM_FQez2w8Dp9vNJ1kZJezIM6G7H_OhXIqk/edit?pref=2&pli=1
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1946
On December 21 2015 07:57 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
blizzard doesn't realize that this nydus mechanic right now is laughable? How can such a thing even be in the game? It already was a bad game mechanic in hots/wol, but in lotv it's just ridiculously bad

If they had some different mechanic for placing the nydus (like you need creep in place - not just vision) or didn't allow them to be healed by queens?


Having creep in place makes Nydus useless, and not allowing them to be healed by queens is insanely weird since it would be the only zerg thing that can't be transfused.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
December 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1947
This is a really weird roach push
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1948
On December 21 2015 07:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On December 21 2015 07:53 Deathstar wrote:
Hyun is helping MMA and not Scarlett or Nerchio, 2 zerg players on the same team -.-

Communicating in Korean is probably more helpful for MMA than English. Or maybe those other two don't care, idk.

scarlett's probably drunk

Ha, true. She's probably no help right now
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1949
On December 21 2015 07:54 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
nydus


that emote

it perfectly conveyed my emotion of 'nydus seems stupid, but I'm zerg so I'll allow it'
Neosteel Enthusiast
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1950
On December 21 2015 07:57 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
blizzard doesn't realize that this nydus mechanic right now is laughable? How can such a thing even be in the game? It already was a bad game mechanic in hots/wol, but in lotv it's just ridiculously bad

If they had some different mechanic for placing the nydus (like you need creep in place - not just vision) or didn't allow them to be healed by queens?


the combo invicible + vision + heal is bullshit. Remove/rework one of these and it's fine. It could've like 3/4 armor and it'd be pretty cool (basically the problem is when workers are killing it every time :D)
Zest fanboy.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1951
On December 21 2015 07:57 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
blizzard doesn't realize that this nydus mechanic right now is laughable? How can such a thing even be in the game? It already was a bad game mechanic in hots/wol, but in lotv it's just ridiculously bad

If they had some different mechanic for placing the nydus (like you need creep in place - not just vision) or didn't allow them to be healed by queens?

I dislike the nydus worm in general because all it is ever used for is to allin. There isn't really any other use for it.
Do we really need an allin mechanic in the game?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
December 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1952
On December 21 2015 07:57 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:55 HellHound wrote:
On December 21 2015 07:54 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Theory crafting question here.

How good is surrounding nydus with ebays?

Is it so good that it's worth clearing your production queues to surround the nydus?

can't zerg just start another nydus?


Not in parallel. Only serially.

In my mind's eye, you can surround with half-built ebays. Kill nydus, cancel ebays, repeat.

You lose 25% per ebay, but if you don't have the units and just need time, it seems preferable to insta-gg.
Not sure, howeve,r since I haven't played SC2 heavily in years.

I already said no electronics talk while I'm on holiday break!!!
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1953
On December 21 2015 07:57 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
blizzard doesn't realize that this nydus mechanic right now is laughable? How can such a thing even be in the game? It already was a bad game mechanic in hots/wol, but in lotv it's just ridiculously bad

If they had some different mechanic for placing the nydus (like you need creep in place - not just vision) or didn't allow them to be healed by queens?

or you know remove crap that teleports units or production which denies terrain mechanics in an rts
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
December 20 2015 22:59 GMT
#1954
Took a 5 min break and it's still going on? holly shit! Foreigner hope?!
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 23:01:06
December 20 2015 23:00 GMT
#1955
On December 21 2015 07:58 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:57 Emperor_Earth wrote:
On December 21 2015 07:55 HellHound wrote:
On December 21 2015 07:54 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Theory crafting question here.

How good is surrounding nydus with ebays?

Is it so good that it's worth clearing your production queues to surround the nydus?

can't zerg just start another nydus?


Not in parallel. Only serially.

In my mind's eye, you can surround with half-built ebays. Kill nydus, cancel ebays, repeat.

You lose 25% per ebay, but if you don't have the units and just need time, it seems preferable to insta-gg.
Not sure, howeve,r since I haven't played SC2 heavily in years.

I already said no electronics talk while I'm on holiday break!!!

Stop resisting you're just inducing yourself to more stress
Neosteel Enthusiast
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 20 2015 23:01 GMT
#1956
On December 21 2015 08:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:58 y0su wrote:
On December 21 2015 07:57 Emperor_Earth wrote:
On December 21 2015 07:55 HellHound wrote:
On December 21 2015 07:54 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Theory crafting question here.

How good is surrounding nydus with ebays?

Is it so good that it's worth clearing your production queues to surround the nydus?

can't zerg just start another nydus?


Not in parallel. Only serially.

In my mind's eye, you can surround with half-built ebays. Kill nydus, cancel ebays, repeat.

You lose 25% per ebay, but if you don't have the units and just need time, it seems preferable to insta-gg.
Not sure, howeve,r since I haven't played SC2 heavily in years.

I already said no electronics talk while I'm on holiday break!!!

Stop resisting you're just inducing yourself to more stress


Yeah, it's like being a capacitor for stress, really.
On track to MA1950A.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 20 2015 23:01 GMT
#1957
On December 21 2015 07:59 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Took a 5 min break and it's still going on? holly shit! Foreigner hope?!


wrong french player, thats lilbow
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 20 2015 23:01 GMT
#1958
firegod was always top 3 foreign hope
rip passion
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
December 20 2015 23:02 GMT
#1959
On December 21 2015 08:01 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 07:59 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Took a 5 min break and it's still going on? holly shit! Foreigner hope?!


wrong french player, thats lilbow

Firecom could be able to start a hype train
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 20 2015 23:03 GMT
#1960
fireman is in a pretty good spot
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