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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
December 05 2015 21:19 GMT
#261
On December 06 2015 06:18 RaFox17 wrote:
Was it terran that was supposed to be weak?

Against Zerg, obviously not against Protoss
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 05 2015 21:19 GMT
#262
Stephano must be happy. Easiest money he has ever made.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 05 2015 21:20 GMT
#263
On December 06 2015 06:14 sashkata wrote:
Do Tempest work vs Liberators?

If you get there without dying.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
December 05 2015 21:20 GMT
#264
Freedom sucks
I Protoss winner, could it be?
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
December 05 2015 21:20 GMT
#265
Love France, but as a protoss Liberators feel soooo dirty
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
IceBerrY
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany220 Posts
December 05 2015 21:20 GMT
#266
Somebody is on fire right now
Feel like storm would be a good choice, not sure if it was affordable though. Also, liberator good unit.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
December 05 2015 21:20 GMT
#267
On December 06 2015 06:18 RaFox17 wrote:
Was it terran that was supposed to be weak?

Mana wasn't half as abusive as he could have been. His counterattacks were nice but not effective enough. Liberators deserve to be nerfed imo, but some tweaking on Protoss units would be nice too. Look at how Parting was playing in DH when I mean abusive.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
December 05 2015 21:23 GMT
#268
On December 06 2015 06:20 Bojas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 06:18 RaFox17 wrote:
Was it terran that was supposed to be weak?

Mana wasn't half as abusive as he could have been. His counterattacks were nice but not effective enough. Liberators deserve to be nerfed imo, but some tweaking on Protoss units would be nice too. Look at how Parting was playing in DH when I mean abusive.

Liberators are problematic. I don't think it's a case of nerfing, a zoning unit so mobile shouldn't be in the game. And it's anti air too

:/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
December 05 2015 21:23 GMT
#269
Why do people suicide in liberation zones?
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
December 05 2015 21:24 GMT
#270
On December 06 2015 06:18 RaFox17 wrote:
Was it terran that was supposed to be weak?

Still need to see what it's like till GSL starts.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 05 2015 21:25 GMT
#271
On December 06 2015 06:23 Strela wrote:
Why do people suicide in liberation zones?

Well on the defense, when the zones slowly creep forward it's a lot of pressure since eventually you run out of room.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
December 05 2015 21:25 GMT
#272
On December 06 2015 06:23 Strela wrote:
Why do people suicide in liberation zones?

I guess at some point you have to fight them. If not they will just move slowly forward and kill everything. Base trade against terran is also not the best idea.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 05 2015 21:25 GMT
#273
On December 06 2015 06:23 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 06:20 Bojas wrote:
On December 06 2015 06:18 RaFox17 wrote:
Was it terran that was supposed to be weak?

Mana wasn't half as abusive as he could have been. His counterattacks were nice but not effective enough. Liberators deserve to be nerfed imo, but some tweaking on Protoss units would be nice too. Look at how Parting was playing in DH when I mean abusive.

Liberators are problematic. I don't think it's a case of nerfing, a zoning unit so mobile shouldn't be in the game. And it's anti air too

:/

Liberators are possibly more all-purpose than the Warhound was, and yet they left Liberators in the game as is
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
December 05 2015 21:25 GMT
#274
On December 06 2015 06:20 IceBerrY wrote:
Somebody is on fire right now
Feel like storm would be a good choice, not sure if it was affordable though. Also, liberator good unit.


When they get liberator range, it's pretty hard to get storms off. Tempests are the best choice IMO, but it's an awkward transition, however it allows you to use storm which is great (puck's game on ruins of sears against major yesterday is a great example of how strong tempest storm is against terran).

I really liked MarineLord's super defensive play into liberators, seems like a really strong way to play the matchup now. Some terrans are a little too aggressive in the mid game i think, and that makes you vulnerable to adept counter-attacks and the sort. Mana played really well actually, but would've liked to see some more "bullshit" tactics, as doing risky, cancer-inducing stuff in PvT is actually a very effective way to play it.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 05 2015 21:26 GMT
#275
Though personally I don't see why the liberator even needs a range upgrade at this point. It's strong enough without it.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 05 2015 21:27 GMT
#276
Liberators are what you'd get if you combined a fast shooting guardian with the mobility of a corruptor with the anti-air of a valkyrie
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 05 2015 21:27 GMT
#277
came back from the sofa and i can actually say that the games are amazing and i'm pretty happy with the current score right now

but hey it's time for godchio, i hope we shut him down somewhat even if we have no firecake and drogo for that
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
December 05 2015 21:28 GMT
#278
On December 06 2015 06:25 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 06:23 Strela wrote:
Why do people suicide in liberation zones?

I guess at some point you have to fight them. If not they will just move slowly forward and kill everything. Base trade against terran is also not the best idea.

Yea I guess, it's always so sad to see things melt underneath it though.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 05 2015 21:28 GMT
#279
And suddenly, Liquid Elky.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 05 2015 21:29 GMT
#280
On December 06 2015 06:27 stuchiu wrote:
Liberators are what you'd get if you combined a fast shooting guardian with the mobility of a corruptor with the anti-air of a valkyrie


Don't forget the usefulness of a BW Tank
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