EPT[NW3] Ro16 - Group B - Page 12
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Sissors
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 06 2015 05:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: this cast is going to get very obnoxious if france keeps winning but imagine if they lose | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On December 06 2015 05:58 Undead1993 wrote: there was an army shooting at his drones i don't think it's a good choice to have patience and just let his drones die Even if he loses the drones, if he cleans up the army he either outright wins or the game goes on for another while. He didn't have to fight under 3 siege tanks and a liberator immediately. And if he was serious about it he should have pulled the drones to attack since there were no medivacs anyway. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On December 06 2015 06:00 Boucot wrote: It's quite amazing that the viewership is similar to the last DreamHack. 22k? | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On December 06 2015 05:59 Sissors wrote: So serious, is there a single Zerg there today who ever played against reapers before? Sure I am not a pro, but the BOs of them against every time the same strategy are not exactly the standard counters to reapers, and they didnt work obviously. Why not just mass speedlings and be done with it? I think roaches are the most standard counter against them. With 3rax reapers when you mass lings and they mass reapers and they just stay out of harms way, you eventually end up with a shitty drone count and he still has his massive reaper army to fight another day. You have to hope for the terran to overcommit with his reapers if you mass lings. Which will often happen, but you give the game complete into the hands of the Terran decision making. | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On December 06 2015 06:00 Boucot wrote: It's quite amazing that the viewership is similar to the last DreamHack. I mean the production value is about the same, so not too surprising  | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
it's about what day 1 of DH hit | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
Yeah http://www.fuzic.nl/events/6638-dreamhack-roccat-lotv-championship/ | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
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klup
France612 Posts
On December 06 2015 05:59 Sissors wrote: So serious, is there a single Zerg there today who ever played against reapers before? Sure I am not a pro, but the BOs of them against every time the same strategy are not exactly the standard counters to reapers, and they didnt work obviously. Why not just mass speedlings and be done with it? 3 Rax reaper is a very good build in term of game design because there is no hardcounter vs it. You have to adapt defend but not commit too much. It's the same on the terran side you have to constantly juge when to stop and transition. Counter attack is often a bad idea due to how grenades are good to delay the push. There is no easy response to this build. except some blind counter. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
finally casters, finally | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
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Sissors
1395 Posts
On December 06 2015 06:02 Big J wrote: I think roaches are the most standard counter against them. With 3rax reapers when you mass lings and they mass reapers and they just stay out of harms way, you eventually end up with a shitty drone count and he still has his massive reaper army to fight another day. You have to hope for the terran to overcommit with his reapers if you mass lings. Which will often happen, but you give the game complete into the hands of the Terran decision making. With purely defensive roaches I can agree as one of the standard counters. However he sacrificed alot to make alot of them. And then you attack and you get exactly what you saw here: Despite it being close spawns your roaches arrive with half HP due to all the grenades. And then actually MarineLord should have had 5 SCVs repairing that bunker, on the other hand even without that he defended fine. It was just completely throwing away those units without any gain. | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On December 06 2015 06:06 Elentos wrote: I was gonna do something but then ToD's "Nice guys always finish last" comment threw me off and I forgot. Damn it ToD. I think nice guys generally don't get to come at all. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On December 06 2015 06:08 Otolia wrote: I think nice guys generally don't get to come at all. ayyyyyy | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On December 06 2015 06:07 Sissors wrote: With purely defensive roaches I can agree as one of the standard counters. However he sacrificed alot to make alot of them. And then you attack and you get exactly what you saw here: Despite it being close spawns your roaches arrive with half HP due to all the grenades. And then actually MarineLord should have had 5 SCVs repairing that bunker, on the other hand even without that he defended fine. It was just completely throwing away those units without any gain. His gain was that he got rid of the reapers and forced Mlord into a 2base build with late tech and no upgrades. The economy after that wasn't that bad for Elazor in comparison to his opponent imo, he just didn't scout the 2 base allin follow up. | ||
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