EPTBut i don't think its a huge deal, if forGG agreed on draw its fine, it was the right call too.
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
But i don't think its a huge deal, if forGG agreed on draw its fine, it was the right call too. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:47 DJHelium wrote: You can kill one unit, move into dead space (if that actually is dead space, I dunno), regain full energy, repeat. He could just kill the buildings. | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:49 Noonius wrote: 1k minerals means jack shit when you have 1 scv and are supply blocked to hell. Even if you finish the cc, you wouldn't have time to build enough supply depots to have enough supply to get a banshee out. plus mana had hallu, he could scout the map so fast to detect cc that was building. So let them play it out. By drawing they reduce ForGG's chance of winning that game from slim to none. For sure his decision was influenced by the early pause. Anyway I'm just gonna let it go from here, imagine it never happened! | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:49 KingAlphard wrote: A CC is only 100 seconds, then you can float it wherever you want and it can't be killed. and then what? | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:49 KingAlphard wrote: A CC is only 100 seconds, then you can float it wherever you want and it can't be killed. If the CC cant land, forgg cant win | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:50 jubil wrote: Draw was fine. It's up to the players in the end anyway, the refs can't force a draw (I assume?) they can offer it, if you guys are so sure forgg could have won, why aren't you bashing HIM for AGREEING to the draw? I trust his judgement (probably that Mana can find and kill his stuff before he gets the banshee, and then they sit there while Mana tries and fails to kill the floating buildings) The refs should have waited 10 minutes | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:49 Sissors wrote: While in theory he had a chance, that would take ages, Mana had a waaayyyy larger army + hallucinations, and that would have never been allowed to happen. ForGG had lost too much, mana could safely split his army. So then we would with a single SCV be 10 minutes further before it would still have been a drawn. Of course ForGG could have decided to go for this, it was his choice too to take a draw. But he also considered that very unlikely apparantly, and I guess ESL also took into account that it would end up in a boring game. You shouldnt ever prematurely end a game as long as there is a chance of victory. Even more so when a pause gives away that much information about the state of the game. | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:50 Superbanana wrote: No, i agree the pause was too fast. But i don't think its a huge deal, if forGG agreed on draw its fine, it was the right call too. How is it the right call when he couldn't lose the game because of floating buildings, but he had a chance to win it ? | ||
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MorDka
Poland543 Posts
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egernya
Canada352 Posts
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
Again, no detection, all he needed was the cloak banshee. | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:47 DJHelium wrote: You can kill one unit, move into dead space (if that actually is dead space, I dunno), regain full energy, repeat. I'm glad they drawed, no matter how questionable the pause timing, instead of us having to sit through that ... | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:49 KingAlphard wrote: A CC is only 100 seconds, then you can float it wherever you want and it can't be killed. .. then it's still a draw. | ||
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WhurreOdu
Austria1739 Posts
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:51 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: The refs should have waited 10 minutes The ref wanted to insert himself into the game | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:49 MavivaM wrote: Yep. Plus a draw should be required by one of the players instead of a staff member imo. both players agreed to the draw.. the pause was so admins could ASK the players | ||
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DinosaurPoop
687 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:51 egernya wrote: This is how forgg could win: start banshee cloak upgrade(200/200) start building a cc(400), stop and make a deopt(100), kill all the mmm until the supply goes to under 5, make a banshee(150/100). He definitely had enough resources. the thing is they paused pretty damn early, maybe forgg thought mana had an observer so he didn't even think about it | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On September 14 2015 01:50 Superbanana wrote: No, i agree the pause was too fast. But i don't think its a huge deal, if forGG agreed on draw its fine, it was the right call too. The pause was awful even if the game was continued. The pause made mana know for sure that he could split up his army. | ||
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