EPT[WCS] Ro16 Day 3 - Season 3 2015 - Page 67
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:07 Hider wrote: Forggg fucked up majorly there having Banshee's and Vikings in same control group, which meant he said the Vikings to deal with the Roaches at the 3rd. Generally, this series showed - entertaining - both very low quality games. JD would have had a free win in the second game had he rushed to Ultras. The reason you normally cannot tech straigt to Ultras is that you will die to a 14 minute timing attack without having a Roach/Hydra/Viper composition, however, JD scouted Forgg only had one factory, and thus would not have been able to make a timing attack before ultras were out. The issue with staying on Roach/hydras for such a long time is that you give a heavy turtling and well-defending player a chance to comeback, whereas you always will trade decently with Ultras. I have no clue how JD even managed to lose that attack with his blinding clouds uncontested, all the hellions and banshees and vikings out of position and forgg producing Thors instead of tanks. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:09 [PkF] Wire wrote: If Lilbow loses in ro8 (which is let's say not likely but very possible) ForGG is actually my favorite to win the whole thing now. I'd still put Hydra a bit ahead but yeah, ForGG is in good shape. We could have a Millenium final ! | ||
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:09 cheekymonkey wrote: Have you ever seen a zerg counter mass banshee? Have you ever seen a Terran progamer go up to 10 Banshees? | ||
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:10 geokilla wrote: Have you ever seen a Terran progamer go up to 10 Banshees? Point being? | ||
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hitpoint
United States1511 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:10 geokilla wrote: Have you ever seen a Terran progamer go up to 10 Banshees? We will in lotv. Imagine being cloaked, flying, having high range dps, AND being faster than anything on the ground that can shoot them. I'm scared for sc2. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:11 cheekymonkey wrote: Statstically at least one of them should have high prediction rates, even if they all chose randomly. actually since they're "experts" and the results have been quite surprising they should have low prediction rates. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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LogiiK
France185 Posts
JD make just a lot of mistake in both games | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:10 Big J wrote: I have no clue how JD even managed to lose that attack with his blinding clouds uncontested, all the hellions and banshees and vikings out of position and forgg producing Thors instead of tanks. It was 180 vs 200 supply I think. And he had like 30 (?) supply of Roaches being denied by 2-3 banshee's (and 6-8 vikings, though those were neccasary). On this map that attack should never be able to work. Everytime I watch mech tvz in Korea on terraform, roach/hydra/viper is so easily denied by a defending terran player. I think JD just sucked balls from that a strategic perspective. His loss in g1 was also unnecsary as Forgg did the same build vs Zanster 2 weeks ago. A bit of scouting would from JD would have prepared him better. And ofc in g1 Forgg gambled completley unncesary by not having a defensive patrolling banshee and not sending scvs to repair the thors in time. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:12 LogiiK wrote: ForGG is one of the only player to play this playstyle, mass banshee is really expensive, slow to produce... JD make just a lot of mistake in both games I'd like to see forgg vs hydra to see how he deals with that style. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:09 cheekymonkey wrote: Have you ever seen a zerg counter mass banshee? yes, it's uncommon but ~10 or more banshees with mech has been done before and corruptors seem like an awful idea, they're slow and vikings shred them. infestors and queens would both make more sense | ||
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:12 [PkF] Wire wrote: actually since they're "experts" and the results have been quite surprising they should have low prediction rates. Given that a significantly better player might as well have a 60% winning chance in a game like sc2, you can't expect very high prediction rates, even if they all choose the better player. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:12 Solar424 wrote: It bugs me that Apollo's prediction score isn't the only one that's a multiple of 5 Aren't they all multiples of five? If there were 20 series, then their score is whatever they had right multiplied by five, right? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:10 geokilla wrote: Have you ever seen a Terran progamer go up to 10 Banshees? I think ForGG did it once recently | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On September 11 2015 07:11 hitpoint wrote: We will in lotv. Imagine being cloaked, flying, having high range dps, AND being faster than anything on the ground that can shoot them. I'm scared for sc2. I'm not convinced. Liberators seem straight up better. | ||
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