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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 10 2015 22:15 GMT
#1341
On September 11 2015 07:12 Hider wrote:
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On September 11 2015 07:10 Big J wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:07 Hider wrote:
JD should've won with his 1st maxed attack. Forgg was completely out of position but JD ate several siege tank volleys by having his vipers miles behind of his army.


Forggg fucked up majorly there having Banshee's and Vikings in same control group, which meant he said the Vikings to deal with the Roaches at the 3rd.

Generally, this series showed - entertaining - both very low quality games. JD would have had a free win in the second game had he rushed to Ultras. The reason you normally cannot tech straigt to Ultras is that you will die to a 14 minute timing attack without having a Roach/Hydra/Viper composition, however, JD scouted Forgg only had one factory, and thus would not have been able to make a timing attack before ultras were out.

The issue with staying on Roach/hydras for such a long time is that you give a heavy turtling and well-defending player a chance to comeback, whereas you always will trade decently with Ultras.


I have no clue how JD even managed to lose that attack with his blinding clouds uncontested, all the hellions and banshees and vikings out of position and forgg producing Thors instead of tanks.


It was 180 vs 200 supply I think. And he had like 30 (?) supply of Roaches being denied by 2-3 banshee's (and 6-8 vikings, though those were neccasary). On this map that attack should never be able to work. Everytime I watch mech tvz in Korea on terraform, roach/hydra/viper is so easily denied by a defending terran player.


Ah yeah, I forgot how many roaches he had up there.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 10 2015 22:16 GMT
#1342
On September 11 2015 07:15 royalroadweed wrote:
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On September 11 2015 07:11 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:10 geokilla wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:09 cheekymonkey wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:07 brickrd wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:06 cheekymonkey wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:05 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Mass banshee dps output is so scary. It's hard to get mass banshees but they are quite a force.


JD chose to attack with 0 corruptors though.

i have never seen a zerg make corruptors to counter mass banshee ever


Have you ever seen a zerg counter mass banshee?

Have you ever seen a Terran progamer go up to 10 Banshees?


We will in lotv.

Imagine being cloaked, flying, having high range dps, AND being faster than anything on the ground that can shoot them. I'm scared for sc2.

I'm not convinced. Liberators seem straight up better.

those things will get balanced before release.
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
September 10 2015 22:17 GMT
#1343
On September 11 2015 07:11 cheekymonkey wrote:
Statstically at least one of them should have high prediction rates, even if they all chose randomly.


Choosing randomly would actually lead every predictor to a convergence of 50%*.

*assuming a finite pool of predictors and an infinitely large data set.
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
September 10 2015 22:17 GMT
#1344
On September 11 2015 07:13 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
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On September 11 2015 07:12 Solar424 wrote:
It bugs me that Apollo's prediction score isn't the only one that's a multiple of 5


Aren't they all multiples of five? If there were 20 series, then their score is whatever they had right multiplied by five, right?

You'd think so but no:
[image loading]
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 10 2015 22:18 GMT
#1345
Lets see the obligatory foreigner in the finals bracket
Neosteel Enthusiast
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 10 2015 22:18 GMT
#1346
Players from groups C and D so much stronger
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 10 2015 22:18 GMT
#1347
On September 11 2015 07:17 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 07:13 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:12 Solar424 wrote:
It bugs me that Apollo's prediction score isn't the only one that's a multiple of 5


Aren't they all multiples of five? If there were 20 series, then their score is whatever they had right multiplied by five, right?

You'd think so but no:
[image loading]

Maybe there is one series that he didn't predict.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 10 2015 22:18 GMT
#1348
On September 11 2015 07:17 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 07:13 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:12 Solar424 wrote:
It bugs me that Apollo's prediction score isn't the only one that's a multiple of 5


Aren't they all multiples of five? If there were 20 series, then their score is whatever they had right multiplied by five, right?

You'd think so but no:
[image loading]

strange because Fanatic-Templar's reasoning is sound... x/20 = 5x/100. Maybe Apollo didn't predict all series.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 22:18 GMT
#1349
On September 11 2015 07:17 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 07:13 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:12 Solar424 wrote:
It bugs me that Apollo's prediction score isn't the only one that's a multiple of 5


Aren't they all multiples of five? If there were 20 series, then their score is whatever they had right multiplied by five, right?

You'd think so but no:
[image loading]

apollo so good he got a half series right (assuming rounding)
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 10 2015 22:18 GMT
#1350
Lmao this new admin guy is just chilling straight faced
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 22:19 GMT
#1351
On September 11 2015 07:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 07:17 Solar424 wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:13 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:12 Solar424 wrote:
It bugs me that Apollo's prediction score isn't the only one that's a multiple of 5


Aren't they all multiples of five? If there were 20 series, then their score is whatever they had right multiplied by five, right?

You'd think so but no:
[image loading]

strange because Fanatic-Templar's reasoning is sound... x/20 = 5x/100. Maybe Apollo didn't predict all series.

yeah he must have gotten 11/19 which is about 58%
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
September 10 2015 22:19 GMT
#1352
Lilbow is still up ?
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 10 2015 22:19 GMT
#1353
On September 11 2015 07:18 Yorkie wrote:
Lmao this new admin guy is just chilling straight faced

yeah I find this hilarious too
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 10 2015 22:19 GMT
#1354
Wow this is new levels of seriousness. Maybe the draw will finally be legit
Neosteel Enthusiast
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 10 2015 22:20 GMT
#1355
The production seems really far less "amateur". Like it.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 10 2015 22:20 GMT
#1356
We're gonna need a bigger bowl.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 10 2015 22:21 GMT
#1357
Lilbow vs GFB, make it happen.
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
September 10 2015 22:21 GMT
#1358
On September 11 2015 07:13 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 07:09 cheekymonkey wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:07 brickrd wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:06 cheekymonkey wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:05 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Mass banshee dps output is so scary. It's hard to get mass banshees but they are quite a force.


JD chose to attack with 0 corruptors though.

i have never seen a zerg make corruptors to counter mass banshee ever


Have you ever seen a zerg counter mass banshee?

yes, it's uncommon but ~10 or more banshees with mech has been done before and corruptors seem like an awful idea, they're slow and vikings shred them. infestors and queens would both make more sense


Of course infestor + corruptor would be optimal. You need a lot of infestors to counter mass air. But going in there with his broodlords relying on viper pulls to kill the viking cloud seems like a bad idea. Better for vikings to fight the corruptors instead of the broodlords anyway.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 10 2015 22:21 GMT
#1359
Kaelaris is such a consummate professional. No matter what he's doing, he has to present to camera.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-10 22:22:05
September 10 2015 22:21 GMT
#1360
ez for Hydra.

Edit ; misunderstood thought we had Hydra vs Gungfu.
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