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On August 13 2015 21:10 royalroadweed wrote:
Toss late game is dumb as fuck. Classic got completely outmaneuvered and was forced to fight up a ramp after losing all his bases. It didn't even matter.
Not sure if he was outmaneuvered. In the end, it was costly for TY's army to kill those nexuses. And on his side, Classic also damaged TY economy while having good trades most of the game so his economy was not that worse than TY's and his army was really strong.
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Where dat snitch at?37108 Posts
On August 13 2015 21:12 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 21:12 Seeker wrote:On August 13 2015 21:09 Seeker wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (5) 36% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 14% ★★★- Good game (3) 21% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 21% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
These are not Seekers, I have no frame of reference for these stars.
It's not my OP 
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On August 13 2015 21:11 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 21:10 Nezgar wrote:
You mean the part where Classic kept on improving his army with upgrades and t3 units while TY stayed on t1 and t2 while wasting a lot of ressources on nukes? There's nothing to transition to.
He transitioned to ghost viking.
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Salt exists because late game ZvT and TvP exist
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Protoss late game army is like mech army with mobility.
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On August 13 2015 21:11 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 21:10 Nezgar wrote:
You mean the part where Classic kept on improving his army with upgrades and t3 units while TY stayed on t1 and t2 while wasting a lot of ressources on nukes? There's nothing to transition to.
Transition into BCs and lose. TY had ghost Viking which is the endgame units you want, that and a few ravens
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On August 13 2015 20:47 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 20:46 x0x0 wrote:Gyuri.....  ....i would sure like her hosting me.... thanks for this creepy post
Creepy?....How come?.......
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I think I know what the coach told TY after game 1.
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On August 13 2015 21:10 Tiaraju9 wrote:
the tears here are delicious.
yeah, its fun to laugh at others.
But being ahead all game and then getting destroyed in 2 seconds was always a problem in SC2, especially in TvP for the Terran.
So I understand the tears, this should have been changed with the first addon already, but somehow blizzard feels this kind of game is "fun".
Sorry, but TY did outplay classic the whole game on, its the superior army and this ONE engagement that not just brought classic back into the game but completely won it for him. If you think PvT lategame that way is fine, its ok, everyone has his/her opinion, but at least try to understand how it must feel for the other person, that is basically helpless in these scenarios.
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On August 13 2015 21:13 10bulgares wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 21:10 royalroadweed wrote:
Toss late game is dumb as fuck. Classic got completely outmaneuvered and was forced to fight up a ramp after losing all his bases. It didn't even matter. Not sure if he was outmaneuvered. In the end, it was costly for TY's army to kill those nexuses. And on his side, Classic also damaged TY economy while having good trades most of the game so his economy was not that worse than TY's and his army was really strong.
That do doesn't make sense. TY was maxed out even after killing two bases. He was ahead economically and maxed out. With hindsight he should've kept running
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On August 13 2015 21:16 Rollora wrote:yeah, its fun to laugh at others. But being ahead all game and then getting destroyed in 2 seconds was always a problem in SC2, especially in TvP for the Terran. So I understand the tears, this should have been changed with the first addon already, but somehow blizzard feels this kind of game is "fun". Sorry, but TY did outplay classic the whole game on, its the superior army and this ONE engagement that not just brought classic back into the game but completely won it for him. If you think PvT lategame that way is fine, its ok, everyone has his/her opinion, but at least try to understand how it must feel for the other person, that is basically helpless in these scenarios.
Well, the thing is, Terrans do really really well in the mid-game. It's just that if the game reaches lategame and the Terran does not have an advantage large enough, he pretty much loses. The matchup is balanced, but mostly because both races have different stages where they can take the win and the last stage happens to be one of protoss.
I'm pretty salty at the matchup tho, 35% tvp winrate @mid-high masters eu
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I think TY should expand more aggressive here. He has got him completely trapped in his base.
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On August 13 2015 21:16 Rollora wrote:yeah, its fun to laugh at others. But being ahead all game and then getting destroyed in 2 seconds was always a problem in SC2, especially in TvP for the Terran. So I understand the tears, this should have been changed with the first addon already, but somehow blizzard feels this kind of game is "fun". Sorry, but TY did outplay classic the whole game on, its the superior army and this ONE engagement that not just brought classic back into the game but completely won it for him. If you think PvT lategame that way is fine, its ok, everyone has his/her opinion, but at least try to understand how it must feel for the other person, that is basically helpless in these scenarios.
no, he didn't.
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Now he's using his multi-tasking really well here. This is what I wanted to see off TY for this matchup.
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On August 13 2015 21:18 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 21:13 10bulgares wrote:On August 13 2015 21:10 royalroadweed wrote:
Toss late game is dumb as fuck. Classic got completely outmaneuvered and was forced to fight up a ramp after losing all his bases. It didn't even matter. Not sure if he was outmaneuvered. In the end, it was costly for TY's army to kill those nexuses. And on his side, Classic also damaged TY economy while having good trades most of the game so his economy was not that worse than TY's and his army was really strong. That do doesn't make sense. TY was maxed out even after killing two bases. He was ahead economically and maxed out. With hindsight he should've kept running
Classic was forced to run up a ramp and his zealots would bug out on the CC. The only better fight he could have gotten was if classic attacked into a PF.
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A bit frustrating as a terran player when Wolf and Moonglade talked about
G2 TY vs Rogue as:
"Rogue is up against a clock vs Battlecruisers, as soon as they hit the field he is dead"
But when a Terran player is trying to play late game vs Storm, Colossus, Tempest and the whole Protoss Deathball casters just point out "Terran player sucked here, they did this misstake there".
Instead I think they should point out that Protoss is way stronger in the late game, and give credit to Terrans who puts up a good fight. Like "Okay, he died that game but he put up a good fight considering it was 35 minutes into the game".
When Terran has the almost unbeatable deathball it is often a "balance" issue where Zerg impossible can win.
When Protoss has the same against Terran you just point out the mistakes of the T player when he dies.
Makes no sence :D
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TY multitasking at its best
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TY picking him apart, nice
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