★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
44%
★★★- Good game (3)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
50%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
100%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (4)
80%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
22%
★★★- Good game (2)
22%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
56%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
40%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
60%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★- Good game (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
67%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (1)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (1)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
25%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
50%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
13%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
25%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
25%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★- Good game (4)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
25%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★- Good game (1)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
43%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
33%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
60%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
20%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
4%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
11%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (24)
86%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
7%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (13)
93%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
33%
★★★- Good game (3)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (3)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
56%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
I think Welmu, GFB, Harstem and FireCake will qualify but I wouldn't be surprised if DnS does it, I hope he will. He must have trained a lot with Drogo these last few days.
Welmu 3-1 Elazer (WELMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU) Gungfubanda 3-1 DNS Harstem 3 Nerchio 2 (I see this as close and would be happy for either one) Firecake 3 Zanster 0 (I'd love to be wrong on this one)
On July 30 2015 00:05 Ej_ wrote: ugh have to sit through a PvP before Nerchio wrecks face, hoping for Welmu to follow the steps of elfi so the first series is quick at least
Nerchio will learn the power of protoss the hard way
Welmu vs Elazerin in WCS Challenger Season 3 round of 64. Welmu is at 0.16% Blizzcon Chances, with a 53.57% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.29%, or 0.01% if they lose. Elazer is at 0.01% Blizzcon Chances, with a 46.43% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.01%, or 0% if they lose.
GunGFuBanDa vs DnSin in WCS Challenger Season 3 round of 64. GunGFuBanDa is at 0.05% Blizzcon Chances, with a 71.01% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.07%, or 0% if they lose. DnS is at 0.01% Blizzcon Chances, with a 28.99% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.01%, or 0% if they lose.
Nerchio vs Harstemin in WCS Challenger Season 3 round of 64. Nerchio is at 0.18% Blizzcon Chances, with a 54.98% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.33%, or 0.01% if they lose. Harstem is at 0.42% Blizzcon Chances, with a 45.02% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.92%, or 0.01% if they lose.
FireCake vs Zansterin in WCS Challenger Season 3 round of 64. FireCake must win this match! FireCake is at 1.12% Blizzcon Chances, with a 50.28% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 2.22%, or 0.01% if they lose. Zanster is at 0.04% Blizzcon Chances, with a 49.72% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.08%, or 0.01% if they lose.
Jaedong, Snute, MarineLorD, Petraeus, MaNa, ShoWTimE, uThermal, FireCake, Kane, TLO, Harstem, and Has must win this tournament! Hydra has a 15.44% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Polt has a 9.76% chance to win ----going from 99.92% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.91% if they don't. ForGG has a 8.98% chance to win ----going from 14.41% to 98.57% if they get 1st, or 6.11% if they don't. Lilbow has a 7.31% chance to win ----going from 21.29% to 99.95% if they get 1st, or 15.09% if they don't. Jaedong has a 7.12% chance to win ----going from 7.69% to 93.29% if they get 1st, or 1.13% if they don't. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +
Snute has a 5.75% chance to win ----going from 9.73% to 98.81% if they get 1st, or 4.3% if they don't. MarineLorD has a 5.61% chance to win ----going from 5.03% to 76.06% if they get 1st, or 0.81% if they don't. Petraeus has a 4.25% chance to win ----going from 1.17% to 25.81% if they get 1st, or 0.07% if they don't. MaNa has a 3.95% chance to win ----going from 0.97% to 23.02% if they get 1st, or 0.06% if they don't. MajOr has a 3.24% chance to win ----going from 0.1% to 2.89% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. ShoWTimE has a 3.06% chance to win ----going from 2.08% to 63.5% if they get 1st, or 0.14% if they don't. viOLet has a 3.05% chance to win ----going from 0.14% to 4.54% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. MaSa has a 3.04% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 2.78% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. HeRoMaRinE has a 2.82% chance to win ----going from 0.1% to 3.55% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Nerchio has a 2.27% chance to win ----going from 0.18% to 7.78% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. uThermal has a 1.62% chance to win ----going from 0.76% to 41.47% if they get 1st, or 0.09% if they don't. FireCake has a 1.33% chance to win ----going from 1.12% to 72.71% if they get 1st, or 0.15% if they don't. Welmu has a 1.12% chance to win ----going from 0.16% to 13.3% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. iaguz has a 0.99% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 9.32% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. GunGFuBanDa has a 0.96% chance to win ----going from 0.05% to 4.96% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Zanster has a 0.89% chance to win ----going from 0.04% to 4.5% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Sen has a 0.86% chance to win ----going from 0.05% to 6.09% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Kane has a 0.84% chance to win ----going from 0.19% to 22.03% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. TLO has a 0.79% chance to win ----going from 1.29% to 95.53% if they get 1st, or 0.54% if they don't. Starbuck has a 0.74% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.62% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Jim has a 0.74% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 1.81% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. iAsonu has a 0.7% chance to win ----going from 0.03% to 3.83% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Harstem has a 0.48% chance to win ----going from 0.42% to 74.77% if they get 1st, or 0.06% if they don't. Hitman has a 0.47% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.37% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Has has a 0.42% chance to win ----going from 0.1% to 22.37% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Kelazhur has a 0.39% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 3.44% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. neeb has a 0.38% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.3% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Elazer has a 0.28% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 1.06% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. DnS has a 0.16% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.32% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. XiGua has a 0.1% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 1.66% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Shana has a 0.06% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.11% if they get 1st, or 0% if they don't.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
44%
★★★- Good game (3)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
50%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
I have nothing against Elazer, but he is my continously destroying my favorite players. I really think he wants to be my personal supervillain. Whenever he is in a matchup, the result is shit. He loses against players i hate and wins against players i like. This is making me so angry everytime, i just want, that he stops playing. Jeez. I am so salty right now.
On July 30 2015 00:50 Taari wrote: I have nothing against Elazer, but he is my continously destroying my favorite players. I really think he wants to be my personal supervillain. Whenever he is in a matchup, the result is shit. He loses against players i hate and wins against players i like. This is making me so angry everytime, i just want, that he stops playing. Jeez. I am so salty right now.
On July 30 2015 00:50 Taari wrote: I have nothing against Elazer, but he is my continously destroying my favorite players. I really think he wants to be my personal supervillain. Whenever he is in a matchup, the result is shit. He loses against players i hate and wins against players i like. This is making me so angry everytime, i just want, that he stops playing. Jeez. I am so salty right now.
your favorite players should practice PvZ a lot more
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
100%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (4)
80%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs Welmu Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
On July 30 2015 00:50 Taari wrote: I have nothing against Elazer, but he is my continously destroying my favorite players. I really think he wants to be my personal supervillain. Whenever he is in a matchup, the result is shit. He loses against players i hate and wins against players i like. This is making me so angry everytime, i just want, that he stops playing. Jeez. I am so salty right now.
your favorite players should practice PvZ a lot more
RotterdaM08: PVP WITH ROTTI AND TOD = <3 <3 <3 GumMVP: Rotti :D Tr0llgubbe: ew PVP Quuro: hy Rotti divineInsanity4: <3 rotti RotterdaM08: GIVE US A CHANCE OKAY.
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
Might as well kick out all the foreigners because none of them are going to beat the Koreans anyway
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
Might as well kick out all the foreigners because none of them are going to beat the Koreans anyway
That's what I've been saying this entire year. Best series have been Hydra vs Polt anyway :/
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
Might as well kick out all the foreigners because none of them are going to beat the Koreans anyway
That's what I've been saying this entire year. Best series have been Hydra vs Polt anyway :/
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
Might as well kick out all the foreigners because none of them are going to beat the Koreans anyway
This just in: 2016 WCS Premier is just inviting all the foreigners who have a history of taking out Koreans and awarding them 1000 WCS points apiece.
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
Neeb better than Welmu confirmed
You seem quite harsh on Neeb (already said it was so sad people would believe he was good after beating a StarDust that didn't even practice SC2 anymore), do you really think he's not legit ? I mean there's no reason the skill he had as T should not show as P too, and he seems to have trained quite hard.
On July 30 2015 01:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: Is DnS the guy that goes mass blink stalker in PvP or am I mixing it up ? The guy using this style calls it "cancer PvP"
On July 30 2015 01:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: Is DnS the guy that goes mass blink stalker in PvP or am I mixing it up ? The guy using this style calls it "cancer PvP"
On July 30 2015 01:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: Is DnS the guy that goes mass blink stalker in PvP or am I mixing it up ? The guy using this style calls it "cancer PvP"
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
Neeb better than Welmu confirmed
You seem quite harsh on Neeb (already said it was so sad people would believe he was good after beating a StarDust that didn't even practice SC2 anymore), do you really think he's not legit ? I mean there's no reason the skill he had as T should not show as P too, and he seems to have trained quite hard.
Nah bro only reason Neeb got into Premier is because he got matched up with terrible no-name Stardust, if he had been matched up against a proven winner like Elazer he would've gotten 3-0'd into retirement
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
Neeb better than Welmu confirmed
You seem quite harsh on Neeb (already said it was so sad people would believe he was good after beating a StarDust that didn't even practice SC2 anymore), do you really think he's not legit ? I mean there's no reason the skill he had as T should not show as P too, and he seems to have trained quite hard.
Nah bro only reason Neeb got into Premier is because he got matched up with terrible no-name Stardust, if he had been matched up against a proven winner like Elazer he would've gotten 3-0'd into retirement
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
Neeb better than Welmu confirmed
You seem quite harsh on Neeb (already said it was so sad people would believe he was good after beating a StarDust that didn't even practice SC2 anymore), do you really think he's not legit ? I mean there's no reason the skill he had as T should not show as P too, and he seems to have trained quite hard.
Nah bro only reason Neeb got into Premier is because he got matched up with terrible no-name Stardust, if he had been matched up against a proven winner like Elazer he would've gotten 3-0'd into retirement
Those blinkless stalkers could really be a problem if it ever goes to the war of the worlds stage. But DnS is pretty far ahead on tech, he should be fine.
On July 30 2015 00:52 Shellshock wrote: 6/11 challenger series so far (or I guess when this one ends) have been 3-0 but people were talking about there being more spots needed for EU before this season lol.
not like the 3-0'd wouldn't qualify through SEA, Taiwan, South America or even NA
Neeb better than Welmu confirmed
You seem quite harsh on Neeb (already said it was so sad people would believe he was good after beating a StarDust that didn't even practice SC2 anymore), do you really think he's not legit ? I mean there's no reason the skill he had as T should not show as P too, and he seems to have trained quite hard.
Nah bro only reason Neeb got into Premier is because he got matched up with terrible no-name Stardust, if he had been matched up against a proven winner like Elazer he would've gotten 3-0'd into retirement
To be fair StarDust is indeed terrible atm.
He's definitely not up to his usual form, but it's not like he's completely terrible either. He was in the ro8 last season, which is a pretty legit result.
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I don't get why you would go 2nd pylon before the core when proxying a stargate, it delays your stargate by about 15 seconds and then your opponent has overcharge ready by the time the oracle hits.
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On July 30 2015 01:52 Ej_ wrote: why didn't gungfu just basetrade instead of risking the fight?
basetrade might end up in an army vs army situation, and Dns had like 30 more army supply, going for direct fight means that gungfu still has like 20 warpins after the fight, so even if he loses the fight he can warpin 40 army supply immediatly and come back from that spot
Why did Gungfu spell Panda Banda? I mean Gungfu is a letter off of how Kungfu is spelled in the romanized version of Chinese, but I never got the Banda bit.
On July 30 2015 01:57 [PkF] Wire wrote: "Overmicro is definitely a thing in PvP"
it's a real thing in ZvZ, roaches overkill a ton so you don't want to focus fire too much
It's a real thing in PvP for more or less the same reason. I'm actually with ToD here, DnS is trying to get juicy shots with his colossi but since it's not perfectly timed he loses some time doing this.
On July 30 2015 01:58 ThomasjServo wrote: Why did Gungfu spell Panda Banda? I mean Gungfu is a letter off of how Kungfu is spelled in the romanized version of Chinese, but I never got the Banda bit.
On July 30 2015 01:58 ThomasjServo wrote: Why did Gungfu spell Panda Banda? I mean Gungfu is a letter off of how Kungfu is spelled in the romanized version of Chinese, but I never got the Banda bit.
twitter bomb him?
Just tweeted at him, we'll see if I get a response. I was just curious if it had been asked before.
On July 30 2015 02:09 Boucot wrote: I don't understand DnS' willingness to go into a macro game. He got outplayed in the first two games, he should try some dirty stuff.
On July 30 2015 02:09 Boucot wrote: I don't understand DnS' willingness to go into a macro game. He got outplayed in the first two games, he should try some dirty stuff.
maybe that's his pvp style or he's expecting GFB to expect him to cheese. I've heard that pvp is about mindgames
On July 30 2015 02:09 Boucot wrote: I don't understand DnS' willingness to go into a macro game. He got outplayed in the first two games, he should try some dirty stuff.
maybe that's his pvp style or he's expecting GFB to expect him to cheese. I've heard that pvp is about mindgames
You heard wrong. As proven by Zest, PvP is about SKILL.
On July 30 2015 02:09 Boucot wrote: I don't understand DnS' willingness to go into a macro game. He got outplayed in the first two games, he should try some dirty stuff.
maybe that's his pvp style or he's expecting GFB to expect him to cheese. I've heard that pvp is about mindgames
You heard wrong. As proven by Zest, PvP is about SKILL.
On July 30 2015 02:09 Boucot wrote: I don't understand DnS' willingness to go into a macro game. He got outplayed in the first two games, he should try some dirty stuff.
maybe that's his pvp style or he's expecting GFB to expect him to cheese. I've heard that pvp is about mindgames
You heard wrong. As proven by Zest, PvP is about SKILL.
On July 30 2015 02:09 Boucot wrote: I don't understand DnS' willingness to go into a macro game. He got outplayed in the first two games, he should try some dirty stuff.
maybe that's his pvp style or he's expecting GFB to expect him to cheese. I've heard that pvp is about mindgames
You heard wrong. As proven by Zest, PvP is about SKILL.
Gungfu played a game like this vs Nerchio in the IEM quali, was 40 supply up vs roach/infestor and just refused to finish off until he got to tempest/mothership 20 minutes later
On July 30 2015 02:09 Boucot wrote: I don't understand DnS' willingness to go into a macro game. He got outplayed in the first two games, he should try some dirty stuff.
maybe that's his pvp style or he's expecting GFB to expect him to cheese. I've heard that pvp is about mindgames
You heard wrong. As proven by Zest, PvP is about SKILL.
On July 30 2015 02:09 Boucot wrote: I don't understand DnS' willingness to go into a macro game. He got outplayed in the first two games, he should try some dirty stuff.
maybe that's his pvp style or he's expecting GFB to expect him to cheese. I've heard that pvp is about mindgames
You heard wrong. As proven by Zest, PvP is about SKILL.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
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20%
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Your vote: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 3?
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Poll: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 4?
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67%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (1)
33%
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★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
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Your vote: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 4?
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Poll: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (1)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
25%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend GunGFuBanDa vs DnS Game 5?
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TBH mothership needs some buffs, either to abilities or to how fast it makes. Now that it can't be chrono'd and it lacks vortex (from WoL MS) and photon overcharge (from MSC), it's not very good for the time and money it takes to make one.
On July 30 2015 02:24 OsaX Nymloth wrote: I miss vortix on mothership
My personal opinion would be giving vortex back to the mothership and give Zerg old swarmhost. But that's just me
but what about terran?
They have mech. Zerg needed old swarmhost to deal with mech. And I haven't bothered to think about the PvT implications because I imagine running a bunch of widow mines under a mothership would take care of it far most cost effectively than anything else
On July 30 2015 02:09 Boucot wrote: I don't understand DnS' willingness to go into a macro game. He got outplayed in the first two games, he should try some dirty stuff.
maybe that's his pvp style or he's expecting GFB to expect him to cheese. I've heard that pvp is about mindgames
You heard wrong. As proven by Zest, PvP is about SKILL.
Said no one ever.
Have you ever heard of Oz ?
Abbreviation for Australia. Though what, someone once said it, therefore it's true? It's bullshit, even the worst foreigner is going to wipe the floor with everyone reading this. And by the time you get to the proleague regulars.. It's a silly thing to even think.
I guess I'm just baulking at the constant put down attitude prevalent in these LRs
On July 30 2015 02:24 OsaX Nymloth wrote: I miss vortix on mothership
My personal opinion would be giving vortex back to the mothership and give Zerg old swarmhost. But that's just me
but what about terran?
They have mech. Zerg needed old swarmhost to deal with mech. And I haven't bothered to think about the PvT implications because I imagine running a bunch of widow mines under a mothership would take care of it far most cost effectively than anything else
Don't you need to individually make them hit? I remember a Day9 daily where some guy tried using mines on an ultra and they went off in sequence, like one every few seconds.
On July 30 2015 02:24 OsaX Nymloth wrote: I miss vortix on mothership
My personal opinion would be giving vortex back to the mothership and give Zerg old swarmhost. But that's just me
but what about terran?
They have mech. Zerg needed old swarmhost to deal with mech. And I haven't bothered to think about the PvT implications because I imagine running a bunch of widow mines under a mothership would take care of it far most cost effectively than anything else
Don't you need to individually make them hit? I remember a Day9 daily where some guy tried using mines on an ultra and they went off in sequence, like one every few seconds.
So? Haven't you seen the widow mines vs mass air tvts? Between mines hitting other things and splashing on the mothership and mines hitting the mothership that should solve the problem. Also yea revert ravens back I totally forgot they got changed
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Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 1?
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Protosses have now learned that the soul train doesn't need immortals anymore. Just hit with blink stalkers and sentries and constantly warp in. So hard to hold even with hydras :/
On July 30 2015 02:46 ilovegroov wrote: I can't decide between my hatred for the sentry all-in and my hatred for Nerchio... so conflicted
You're aware that "hatred" is the feeling when you don't absolutely love every single aspect of something?
I think you're using the word wrong.
Well I think it very well describes my feelings for the sentry all-in. It ruins the matchup since 2012, I fucking hate it so much... Everything in there, warpgate, forcefield... so degenerated.
On July 30 2015 02:49 Yorkie wrote: Protosses have now learned that the soul train doesn't need immortals anymore. Just hit with blink stalkers and sentries and constantly warp in. So hard to hold even with hydras :/
On July 30 2015 02:46 ilovegroov wrote: I can't decide between my hatred for the sentry all-in and my hatred for Nerchio... so conflicted
You're aware that "hatred" is the feeling when you don't absolutely love every single aspect of something?
I think you're using the word wrong.
Well I think it very well describes my feelings for the sentry all-in. It ruins the matchup since 2012, I fucking hate it so much... Everything in there, warpgate, forcefield... so degenerated.
Maybe I just dislike Nerchio though.
How could you hate the greatest unit in the game (after the HT, Oracle, Immortal and Colossus) and the greatest player of all time
On July 30 2015 02:49 Yorkie wrote: Protosses have now learned that the soul train doesn't need immortals anymore. Just hit with blink stalkers and sentries and constantly warp in. So hard to hold even with hydras :/
Don't even need blink in that game :/
Nerchio could have done better in that game i feel.
Better scouting to know this attack was coming would have probably allowed him to concentrate his army at his third base instead of instantly losing 2 hydras for no reason. If he had set up a defensive line above the ramp at his third base, the fight might have been in more favor for him wouldn't it?
On July 30 2015 02:49 Yorkie wrote: Protosses have now learned that the soul train doesn't need immortals anymore. Just hit with blink stalkers and sentries and constantly warp in. So hard to hold even with hydras :/
Don't even need blink in that game :/
Nerchio could have done better in that game i feel.
Better scouting to know this attack was coming would have probably allowed him to concentrate his army at his third base instead of instantly losing 2 hydras for no reason. If he had set up a defensive line above the ramp at his third base, the fight might have been in more favor for him wouldn't it?
Maybe I'm a cynical zerg but 2 hydras wouldnt have done shit. And who cares about a defensive line above a ramp when protoss ALWAYS have vision of it with the MSC. And if you're too close to the ramp you just get forcefielded and lose more than those two free hydras anyway
On July 30 2015 02:49 Yorkie wrote: Protosses have now learned that the soul train doesn't need immortals anymore. Just hit with blink stalkers and sentries and constantly warp in. So hard to hold even with hydras :/
Don't even need blink in that game :/
Nerchio could have done better in that game i feel.
Better scouting to know this attack was coming would have probably allowed him to concentrate his army at his third base instead of instantly losing 2 hydras for no reason. If he had set up a defensive line above the ramp at his third base, the fight might have been in more favor for him wouldn't it?
Maybe I'm a cynical zerg but 2 hydras wouldnt have done shit. And who cares about a defensive line above a ramp when protoss ALWAYS have vision of it with the MSC. And if you're too close to the ramp you just get forcefielded and lose more than those two free hydras anyway
On July 30 2015 02:49 Yorkie wrote: Protosses have now learned that the soul train doesn't need immortals anymore. Just hit with blink stalkers and sentries and constantly warp in. So hard to hold even with hydras :/
Don't even need blink in that game :/
Nerchio could have done better in that game i feel.
Better scouting to know this attack was coming would have probably allowed him to concentrate his army at his third base instead of instantly losing 2 hydras for no reason. If he had set up a defensive line above the ramp at his third base, the fight might have been in more favor for him wouldn't it?
Maybe I'm a cynical zerg but 2 hydras wouldnt have done shit. And who cares about a defensive line above a ramp when protoss ALWAYS have vision of it with the MSC. And if you're too close to the ramp you just get forcefielded and lose more than those two free hydras anyway
On July 30 2015 02:49 Yorkie wrote: Protosses have now learned that the soul train doesn't need immortals anymore. Just hit with blink stalkers and sentries and constantly warp in. So hard to hold even with hydras :/
Don't even need blink in that game :/
Nerchio could have done better in that game i feel.
Better scouting to know this attack was coming would have probably allowed him to concentrate his army at his third base instead of instantly losing 2 hydras for no reason. If he had set up a defensive line above the ramp at his third base, the fight might have been in more favor for him wouldn't it?
Maybe I'm a cynical zerg but 2 hydras wouldnt have done shit. And who cares about a defensive line above a ramp when protoss ALWAYS have vision of it with the MSC. And if you're too close to the ramp you just get forcefielded and lose more than those two free hydras anyway
On July 30 2015 02:54 SmoKim wrote: My internet doesn't work so i can't watch
but
GOGO King Arthur
Nerchio doing a small roach push, Harstem expanding on 3 bases and getting his sentry count up again
About 10 units in each army per person
10:00
Slowlings and Roaches pushed back, Speed halfway done, +1/+1 started for nerch, blink for Harstem
12:00
Harstem pushing in with blink stalkers Some random music comes on the stream Nerch takes a fourth Hydras + range upgrade in production Lair halfway done
On July 30 2015 02:49 Yorkie wrote: Protosses have now learned that the soul train doesn't need immortals anymore. Just hit with blink stalkers and sentries and constantly warp in. So hard to hold even with hydras :/
Don't even need blink in that game :/
Nerchio could have done better in that game i feel.
Better scouting to know this attack was coming would have probably allowed him to concentrate his army at his third base instead of instantly losing 2 hydras for no reason. If he had set up a defensive line above the ramp at his third base, the fight might have been in more favor for him wouldn't it?
Maybe I'm a cynical zerg but 2 hydras wouldnt have done shit. And who cares about a defensive line above a ramp when protoss ALWAYS have vision of it with the MSC. And if you're too close to the ramp you just get forcefielded and lose more than those two free hydras anyway
On July 30 2015 02:54 SmoKim wrote: My internet doesn't work so i can't watch
but
GOGO King Arthur
Nerchio doing a small roach push, Harstem expanding on 3 bases and getting his sentry count up again
About 10 units in each army per person
10:00
Slowlings and Roaches pushed back, Speed halfway done, +1/+1 started for nerch, blink for Harstem
12:00
Harstem pushing in with blink stalkers Some random music comes on the stream Nerch takes a fourth Hydras + range upgrade in production Lair halfway done
14:00
Harstem pushing around the southwest, breaks down the rocks to enter Nerch getting infestors and spire is building Archives making for Harstem Nerch fungals and lands some great fungals Harstem recalls Nerchio on 8 gases and getting +2/+2 Greater Spire started
On July 30 2015 02:54 SmoKim wrote: My internet doesn't work so i can't watch
but
GOGO King Arthur
Nerchio doing a small roach push, Harstem expanding on 3 bases and getting his sentry count up again
About 10 units in each army per person
10:00
Slowlings and Roaches pushed back, Speed halfway done, +1/+1 started for nerch, blink for Harstem
12:00
Harstem pushing in with blink stalkers Some random music comes on the stream Nerch takes a fourth Hydras + range upgrade in production Lair halfway done
14:00
Harstem pushing around the southwest, breaks down the rocks to enter Nerch getting infestors and spire is building Archives making for Harstem Nerch fungals and lands some great fungals Harstem recalls Nerchio on 8 gases and getting +2/+2 Greater Spire started
187 Nerch - Harstem 169
16:00
Harstem getting a 4th Greater Spire spotted by warp prism, some light zealot harassment at nat Storm finishes at 15:10 Charge started Harstem pushing with blink stalkers, dodges fungals GOSU STORMS Lings die, a few infestors die Harstem isolates the 4th Nerch 200 - 183 Harstem
On July 30 2015 02:54 SmoKim wrote: My internet doesn't work so i can't watch
but
GOGO King Arthur
Nerchio doing a small roach push, Harstem expanding on 3 bases and getting his sentry count up again
About 10 units in each army per person
10:00
Slowlings and Roaches pushed back, Speed halfway done, +1/+1 started for nerch, blink for Harstem
12:00
Harstem pushing in with blink stalkers Some random music comes on the stream Nerch takes a fourth Hydras + range upgrade in production Lair halfway done
14:00
Harstem pushing around the southwest, breaks down the rocks to enter Nerch getting infestors and spire is building Archives making for Harstem Nerch fungals and lands some great fungals Harstem recalls Nerchio on 8 gases and getting +2/+2 Greater Spire started
187 Nerch - Harstem 169
16:00
Harstem getting a 4th Greater Spire spotted by warp prism, some light zealot harassment at nat Storm finishes at 15:10 Charge started Harstem pushing with blink stalkers, dodges fungals GOSU STORMS Lings die, a few infestors die Harstem isolates the 4th Nerch 200 - 183 Harstem
17:11
Nerchio surrounds on all sides Mothership core on very little HP but surviving Nerchio has broods but not enough Harstem blinks under the broodlords, gets the spines before they sit, GG
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★★★- Good game (2)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
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★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
25%
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Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 30 2015 02:54 SmoKim wrote: My internet doesn't work so i can't watch
but
GOGO King Arthur
Nerchio doing a small roach push, Harstem expanding on 3 bases and getting his sentry count up again
About 10 units in each army per person
10:00
Slowlings and Roaches pushed back, Speed halfway done, +1/+1 started for nerch, blink for Harstem
12:00
Harstem pushing in with blink stalkers Some random music comes on the stream Nerch takes a fourth Hydras + range upgrade in production Lair halfway done
14:00
Harstem pushing around the southwest, breaks down the rocks to enter Nerch getting infestors and spire is building Archives making for Harstem Nerch fungals and lands some great fungals Harstem recalls Nerchio on 8 gases and getting +2/+2 Greater Spire started
187 Nerch - Harstem 169
16:00
Harstem getting a 4th Greater Spire spotted by warp prism, some light zealot harassment at nat Storm finishes at 15:10 Charge started Harstem pushing with blink stalkers, dodges fungals GOSU STORMS Lings die, a few infestors die Harstem isolates the 4th Nerch 200 - 183 Harstem
17:11
Nerchio surrounds on all sides Mothership core on very little HP but surviving Nerchio has broods but not enough Harstem blinks under the broodlords, gets the spines before they sit, GG
On July 30 2015 02:54 SmoKim wrote: My internet doesn't work so i can't watch
but
GOGO King Arthur
Nerchio doing a small roach push, Harstem expanding on 3 bases and getting his sentry count up again
About 10 units in each army per person
10:00
Slowlings and Roaches pushed back, Speed halfway done, +1/+1 started for nerch, blink for Harstem
12:00
Harstem pushing in with blink stalkers Some random music comes on the stream Nerch takes a fourth Hydras + range upgrade in production Lair halfway done
Before my web dissapears again: Thanks for LR Sentiel <3 :D
On July 30 2015 02:58 Noonius wrote: who the fuck can you recall fungaled units, that makes no sense
because you can't do anything to prevent a recall aside from Protoss having a stroke
fungal buff idea: make fungaled units immune to using abilities. Result, balanced game for the zerg pov
Stalkers already can't blink (which btw they used to be able to), idk about HTs using storm but I'm pretty sure Zerg units can't burrow and vikings can't land. I really don't understand why MSC can recall under it
On July 30 2015 02:58 Noonius wrote: who the fuck can you recall fungaled units, that makes no sense
because you can't do anything to prevent a recall aside from Protoss having a stroke
fungal buff idea: make fungaled units immune to using abilities. Result, balanced game for the zerg pov
Stalkers already can't blink (which btw they used to be able to), idk about HTs using storm but I'm pretty sure Zerg units can't burrow and vikings can't land. I really don't understand why MSC can recall under it
Because it is not marked as movement ability in the editor while the others are.
On July 30 2015 02:58 Noonius wrote: who the fuck can you recall fungaled units, that makes no sense
because you can't do anything to prevent a recall aside from Protoss having a stroke
fungal buff idea: make fungaled units immune to using abilities. Result, balanced game for the zerg pov
Stalkers already can't blink (which btw they used to be able to), idk about HTs using storm but I'm pretty sure Zerg units can't burrow and vikings can't land. I really don't understand why MSC can recall under it
Because it is not marked as movement ability in the editor while the others are.
While thank you for telling me the literal reason I mean idk why its ALLOWED to be a thing
1800 MASS STALKER is a new hotline for all of you hardworking brotosses struggling out there in the zerg-filled ladder, replacing the now defunct 1800 MASS ROACH and 1800 CA$HO$T$ of yesteryear
On July 30 2015 02:58 Noonius wrote: who the fuck can you recall fungaled units, that makes no sense
because you can't do anything to prevent a recall aside from Protoss having a stroke
fungal buff idea: make fungaled units immune to using abilities. Result, balanced game for the zerg pov
Stalkers already can't blink (which btw they used to be able to), idk about HTs using storm but I'm pretty sure Zerg units can't burrow and vikings can't land. I really don't understand why MSC can recall under it
Because it is not marked as movement ability in the editor while the others are.
While thank you for telling me the literal reason I mean idk why its ALLOWED to be a thing
Sick stuff by Harstem. Ballsy to defend the low ground. Pretty obvious play by Nerchio because early pool is the only reason for zerg to pick this map lol
On July 30 2015 03:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright full force
Game 3: Dash and Terminal: Harstem leads 2-0 Nerchio spawns at 12 | Harstem spawns at 3
3:00
Nerch goes gas first Harstem scouts for proxyhatch and goes for a 15 nex 15 gate
6:00
Speed starts just after 3:00 Lings out, queen out Harstem cancels his gas, walls off his main with forge and existing gate Pylon on low ground Harstem planning to pull probes? Chronoboosting Zealot Nexus finishes at 4:10 5 probes + Zealot on defense Nerchio droning + expanding behind this 8 lings vs probes and Zealot Cannon goes down Lings run up by BLOCKED BY HARSTEM Harstem proving this is in fact his year Cannon up Probes mine but slightly blocked (about halfway) by lings) Zealot on guard duty by 2 lots Nerch gets a probe
On July 30 2015 03:07 Yorkie wrote: Sick stuff by Harstem. Ballsy to defend the low ground. Pretty obvious play by Nerchio because early pool is the only reason for zerg to pick this map lol
nexus/gate is a build order loss vs 14/14. Like ToD said, Harstem is only alive because of a misread by Nerchio.
On July 30 2015 03:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright full force
Game 3: Dash and Terminal: Harstem leads 2-0 Nerchio spawns at 12 | Harstem spawns at 3
3:00
Nerch goes gas first Harstem scouts for proxyhatch and goes for a 15 nex 15 gate
6:00
Speed starts just after 3:00 Lings out, queen out Harstem cancels his gas, walls off his main with forge and existing gate Pylon on low ground Harstem planning to pull probes? Chronoboosting Zealot Nexus finishes at 4:10 5 probes + Zealot on defense Nerchio droning + expanding behind this 8 lings vs probes and Zealot Cannon goes down Lings run up by BLOCKED BY HARSTEM Harstem proving this is in fact his year Cannon up Probes mine but slightly blocked (about halfway) by lings) Zealot on guard duty by 2 lots Nerch gets a probe
9:00
Core going down Second cannon behind nexus cancelled Nerch puts his third in the gold around 7:00 Harstem making partial wall at his nat Roach warren down at 7:30 Harstem getting some sentries + gates Lings breaking down Nerchio's rocks to get to the gold faster Very even supply and worker count, Nerch slightly ahead Third down for harstem (normal location) around 8:40 Lings breaking down Harstem's rocks but repelled by sentries
On July 30 2015 03:07 Yorkie wrote: Sick stuff by Harstem. Ballsy to defend the low ground. Pretty obvious play by Nerchio because early pool is the only reason for zerg to pick this map lol
nexus/gate is a build order loss vs 14/14. Like ToD said, Harstem is only alive because of a misread by Nerchio.
Nexus/gate is a BO loss vs 14/14 on most two player maps. My point is zerg has early pool on this map annnnddd not much else so I'm surprised Harstem went nexus/gate
On July 30 2015 03:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright full force
Game 3: Dash and Terminal: Harstem leads 2-0 Nerchio spawns at 12 | Harstem spawns at 3
3:00
Nerch goes gas first Harstem scouts for proxyhatch and goes for a 15 nex 15 gate
6:00
Speed starts just after 3:00 Lings out, queen out Harstem cancels his gas, walls off his main with forge and existing gate Pylon on low ground Harstem planning to pull probes? Chronoboosting Zealot Nexus finishes at 4:10 5 probes + Zealot on defense Nerchio droning + expanding behind this 8 lings vs probes and Zealot Cannon goes down Lings run up by BLOCKED BY HARSTEM Harstem proving this is in fact his year Cannon up Probes mine but slightly blocked (about halfway) by lings) Zealot on guard duty by 2 lots Nerch gets a probe
9:00
Core going down Second cannon behind nexus cancelled Nerch puts his third in the gold around 7:00 Harstem making partial wall at his nat Roach warren down at 7:30 Harstem getting some sentries + gates Lings breaking down Nerchio's rocks to get to the gold faster Very even supply and worker count, Nerch slightly ahead Third down for harstem (normal location) around 8:40 Lings breaking down Harstem's rocks but repelled by sentries
Nerch 80 - 73 Harstem
12:00
Lings sneak around but get out before surrounded Harstem making a push with 5 sentries, 2 zealots, MSC and a probe at 10:00 Lair spotted, pulls back Twilight finishes at 10:30 Robo goes down at 10:25 4th down at 10:40 Panic cannon in the main Spire goes down Roaches attack, Harstem FF's like a maniac, kills exactly 1 roach Nerch goes for the rocks again Harstem builds his own wall behind the rocks Photon overcharge to stop Nerch pushing nerch does it anyway!
On July 30 2015 03:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright full force
Game 3: Dash and Terminal: Harstem leads 2-0 Nerchio spawns at 12 | Harstem spawns at 3
3:00
Nerch goes gas first Harstem scouts for proxyhatch and goes for a 15 nex 15 gate
6:00
Speed starts just after 3:00 Lings out, queen out Harstem cancels his gas, walls off his main with forge and existing gate Pylon on low ground Harstem planning to pull probes? Chronoboosting Zealot Nexus finishes at 4:10 5 probes + Zealot on defense Nerchio droning + expanding behind this 8 lings vs probes and Zealot Cannon goes down Lings run up by BLOCKED BY HARSTEM Harstem proving this is in fact his year Cannon up Probes mine but slightly blocked (about halfway) by lings) Zealot on guard duty by 2 lots Nerch gets a probe
9:00
Core going down Second cannon behind nexus cancelled Nerch puts his third in the gold around 7:00 Harstem making partial wall at his nat Roach warren down at 7:30 Harstem getting some sentries + gates Lings breaking down Nerchio's rocks to get to the gold faster Very even supply and worker count, Nerch slightly ahead Third down for harstem (normal location) around 8:40 Lings breaking down Harstem's rocks but repelled by sentries
Nerch 80 - 73 Harstem
12:00
Lings sneak around but get out before surrounded Harstem making a push with 5 sentries, 2 zealots, MSC and a probe at 10:00 Lair spotted, pulls back Twilight finishes at 10:30 Robo goes down at 10:25 4th down at 10:40 Panic cannon in the main Spire goes down Roaches attack, Harstem FF's like a maniac, kills exactly 1 roach Nerch goes for the rocks again Harstem builds his own wall behind the rocks Photon overcharge to stop Nerch pushing nerch does it anyway!
15:00
Nerch pushes from two directions and is temporarily repelled 5th goes down at 12:00 13:00 supply count, 153-133 with Nerch ahead 2nd spire goes down Mutas coming out Mutas come into main and kill MSC but a lot die to blink stalkers Roach ling push between main and 3rd, 1 immortal dies, second one is wounded 8 mutas still flying around being assholes Blink stalkers pick off a few more mutas Harstem gets his second stargate Nech 170 - 147 Harstem
On July 30 2015 03:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright full force
Game 3: Dash and Terminal: Harstem leads 2-0 Nerchio spawns at 12 | Harstem spawns at 3
3:00
Nerch goes gas first Harstem scouts for proxyhatch and goes for a 15 nex 15 gate
6:00
Speed starts just after 3:00 Lings out, queen out Harstem cancels his gas, walls off his main with forge and existing gate Pylon on low ground Harstem planning to pull probes? Chronoboosting Zealot Nexus finishes at 4:10 5 probes + Zealot on defense Nerchio droning + expanding behind this 8 lings vs probes and Zealot Cannon goes down Lings run up by BLOCKED BY HARSTEM Harstem proving this is in fact his year Cannon up Probes mine but slightly blocked (about halfway) by lings) Zealot on guard duty by 2 lots Nerch gets a probe
9:00
Core going down Second cannon behind nexus cancelled Nerch puts his third in the gold around 7:00 Harstem making partial wall at his nat Roach warren down at 7:30 Harstem getting some sentries + gates Lings breaking down Nerchio's rocks to get to the gold faster Very even supply and worker count, Nerch slightly ahead Third down for harstem (normal location) around 8:40 Lings breaking down Harstem's rocks but repelled by sentries
Nerch 80 - 73 Harstem
12:00
Lings sneak around but get out before surrounded Harstem making a push with 5 sentries, 2 zealots, MSC and a probe at 10:00 Lair spotted, pulls back Twilight finishes at 10:30 Robo goes down at 10:25 4th down at 10:40 Panic cannon in the main Spire goes down Roaches attack, Harstem FF's like a maniac, kills exactly 1 roach Nerch goes for the rocks again Harstem builds his own wall behind the rocks Photon overcharge to stop Nerch pushing nerch does it anyway!
15:00
Nerch pushes from two directions and is temporarily repelled 5th goes down at 12:00 13:00 supply count, 153-133 with Nerch ahead 2nd spire goes down Mutas coming out Mutas come into main and kill MSC but a lot die to blink stalkers Roach ling push between main and 3rd, 1 immortal dies, second one is wounded 8 mutas still flying around being assholes Blink stalkers pick off a few more mutas Harstem gets his second stargate Nech 170 - 147 Harstem
18:00
Warp prism spotted by mutas, destroyed with its cargo of zealots Phoenixes being made 2 at a time Mutas a-move into blink stalkers Phoenix vs Muta fight Stalkers die but Phoenixes repel them Muta ling roach attacks, Harstem holds Phoenix number is high, Harstem has air advantage for now 8 corruptors making Spines going down Phoenix range started Nerchio dumping excess minerals in spines +1 air attack started for Harstem at 17:30 Mutas pick off one of the two stargates Infestation goes down at 17:45 200 Nerch - 175 Harstem
On July 30 2015 03:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright full force
Game 3: Dash and Terminal: Harstem leads 2-0 Nerchio spawns at 12 | Harstem spawns at 3
3:00
Nerch goes gas first Harstem scouts for proxyhatch and goes for a 15 nex 15 gate
6:00
Speed starts just after 3:00 Lings out, queen out Harstem cancels his gas, walls off his main with forge and existing gate Pylon on low ground Harstem planning to pull probes? Chronoboosting Zealot Nexus finishes at 4:10 5 probes + Zealot on defense Nerchio droning + expanding behind this 8 lings vs probes and Zealot Cannon goes down Lings run up by BLOCKED BY HARSTEM Harstem proving this is in fact his year Cannon up Probes mine but slightly blocked (about halfway) by lings) Zealot on guard duty by 2 lots Nerch gets a probe
9:00
Core going down Second cannon behind nexus cancelled Nerch puts his third in the gold around 7:00 Harstem making partial wall at his nat Roach warren down at 7:30 Harstem getting some sentries + gates Lings breaking down Nerchio's rocks to get to the gold faster Very even supply and worker count, Nerch slightly ahead Third down for harstem (normal location) around 8:40 Lings breaking down Harstem's rocks but repelled by sentries
Nerch 80 - 73 Harstem
12:00
Lings sneak around but get out before surrounded Harstem making a push with 5 sentries, 2 zealots, MSC and a probe at 10:00 Lair spotted, pulls back Twilight finishes at 10:30 Robo goes down at 10:25 4th down at 10:40 Panic cannon in the main Spire goes down Roaches attack, Harstem FF's like a maniac, kills exactly 1 roach Nerch goes for the rocks again Harstem builds his own wall behind the rocks Photon overcharge to stop Nerch pushing nerch does it anyway!
15:00
Nerch pushes from two directions and is temporarily repelled 5th goes down at 12:00 13:00 supply count, 153-133 with Nerch ahead 2nd spire goes down Mutas coming out Mutas come into main and kill MSC but a lot die to blink stalkers Roach ling push between main and 3rd, 1 immortal dies, second one is wounded 8 mutas still flying around being assholes Blink stalkers pick off a few more mutas Harstem gets his second stargate Nech 170 - 147 Harstem
18:00
Warp prism spotted by mutas, destroyed with its cargo of zealots Phoenixes being made 2 at a time Mutas a-move into blink stalkers Phoenix vs Muta fight Stalkers die but Phoenixes repel them Muta ling roach attacks, Harstem holds Phoenix number is high, Harstem has air advantage for now 8 corruptors making Spines going down Phoenix range started Nerchio dumping excess minerals in spines +1 air attack started for Harstem at 17:30 Mutas pick off one of the two stargates Infestation goes down at 17:45 200 Nerch - 175 Harstem
21:00
Huge air push into the main, lots of cannons + pylons + probes killed Hive started at 18:45 Nerchio has 2/2 air Phoenix vs muta/corruptor micro Nerch falling behind on the ground Roaches die Tod suggests Nerch goes ultras since Harstem has no immortals Nerch committing to air Harstem making gateway units and phoenix Cannons holding mutas pretty well but corruptors stave off the phoenix
On July 30 2015 03:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright full force
Game 3: Dash and Terminal: Harstem leads 2-0 Nerchio spawns at 12 | Harstem spawns at 3
3:00
Nerch goes gas first Harstem scouts for proxyhatch and goes for a 15 nex 15 gate
6:00
Speed starts just after 3:00 Lings out, queen out Harstem cancels his gas, walls off his main with forge and existing gate Pylon on low ground Harstem planning to pull probes? Chronoboosting Zealot Nexus finishes at 4:10 5 probes + Zealot on defense Nerchio droning + expanding behind this 8 lings vs probes and Zealot Cannon goes down Lings run up by BLOCKED BY HARSTEM Harstem proving this is in fact his year Cannon up Probes mine but slightly blocked (about halfway) by lings) Zealot on guard duty by 2 lots Nerch gets a probe
9:00
Core going down Second cannon behind nexus cancelled Nerch puts his third in the gold around 7:00 Harstem making partial wall at his nat Roach warren down at 7:30 Harstem getting some sentries + gates Lings breaking down Nerchio's rocks to get to the gold faster Very even supply and worker count, Nerch slightly ahead Third down for harstem (normal location) around 8:40 Lings breaking down Harstem's rocks but repelled by sentries
Nerch 80 - 73 Harstem
12:00
Lings sneak around but get out before surrounded Harstem making a push with 5 sentries, 2 zealots, MSC and a probe at 10:00 Lair spotted, pulls back Twilight finishes at 10:30 Robo goes down at 10:25 4th down at 10:40 Panic cannon in the main Spire goes down Roaches attack, Harstem FF's like a maniac, kills exactly 1 roach Nerch goes for the rocks again Harstem builds his own wall behind the rocks Photon overcharge to stop Nerch pushing nerch does it anyway!
15:00
Nerch pushes from two directions and is temporarily repelled 5th goes down at 12:00 13:00 supply count, 153-133 with Nerch ahead 2nd spire goes down Mutas coming out Mutas come into main and kill MSC but a lot die to blink stalkers Roach ling push between main and 3rd, 1 immortal dies, second one is wounded 8 mutas still flying around being assholes Blink stalkers pick off a few more mutas Harstem gets his second stargate Nech 170 - 147 Harstem
18:00
Warp prism spotted by mutas, destroyed with its cargo of zealots Phoenixes being made 2 at a time Mutas a-move into blink stalkers Phoenix vs Muta fight Stalkers die but Phoenixes repel them Muta ling roach attacks, Harstem holds Phoenix number is high, Harstem has air advantage for now 8 corruptors making Spines going down Phoenix range started Nerchio dumping excess minerals in spines +1 air attack started for Harstem at 17:30 Mutas pick off one of the two stargates Infestation goes down at 17:45 200 Nerch - 175 Harstem
21:00
Huge air push into the main, lots of cannons + pylons + probes killed Hive started at 18:45 Nerchio has 2/2 air Phoenix vs muta/corruptor micro Nerch falling behind on the ground Roaches die Tod suggests Nerch goes ultras since Harstem has no immortals Nerch committing to air Harstem making gateway units and phoenix Cannons holding mutas pretty well but corruptors stave off the phoenix
174 Harstem - Nerch 154 COUNTER
22:30
Harstem goes for the base trade, gateway army gets repelled by spines but mutas are too gud Phoenix doing what they can but Harstem still losing probes fast 36 PROBES LOST THIRTY FUCKING SIX OF THEM THAT IS A LOT OF PROBES THAT IS ALMOST HOW MANY PROBES YOU START WITH IN LEGACY OF THE VOID
On July 30 2015 03:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright full force
Game 3: Dash and Terminal: Harstem leads 2-0 Nerchio spawns at 12 | Harstem spawns at 3
3:00
Nerch goes gas first Harstem scouts for proxyhatch and goes for a 15 nex 15 gate
6:00
Speed starts just after 3:00 Lings out, queen out Harstem cancels his gas, walls off his main with forge and existing gate Pylon on low ground Harstem planning to pull probes? Chronoboosting Zealot Nexus finishes at 4:10 5 probes + Zealot on defense Nerchio droning + expanding behind this 8 lings vs probes and Zealot Cannon goes down Lings run up by BLOCKED BY HARSTEM Harstem proving this is in fact his year Cannon up Probes mine but slightly blocked (about halfway) by lings) Zealot on guard duty by 2 lots Nerch gets a probe
9:00
Core going down Second cannon behind nexus cancelled Nerch puts his third in the gold around 7:00 Harstem making partial wall at his nat Roach warren down at 7:30 Harstem getting some sentries + gates Lings breaking down Nerchio's rocks to get to the gold faster Very even supply and worker count, Nerch slightly ahead Third down for harstem (normal location) around 8:40 Lings breaking down Harstem's rocks but repelled by sentries
Nerch 80 - 73 Harstem
12:00
Lings sneak around but get out before surrounded Harstem making a push with 5 sentries, 2 zealots, MSC and a probe at 10:00 Lair spotted, pulls back Twilight finishes at 10:30 Robo goes down at 10:25 4th down at 10:40 Panic cannon in the main Spire goes down Roaches attack, Harstem FF's like a maniac, kills exactly 1 roach Nerch goes for the rocks again Harstem builds his own wall behind the rocks Photon overcharge to stop Nerch pushing nerch does it anyway!
15:00
Nerch pushes from two directions and is temporarily repelled 5th goes down at 12:00 13:00 supply count, 153-133 with Nerch ahead 2nd spire goes down Mutas coming out Mutas come into main and kill MSC but a lot die to blink stalkers Roach ling push between main and 3rd, 1 immortal dies, second one is wounded 8 mutas still flying around being assholes Blink stalkers pick off a few more mutas Harstem gets his second stargate Nech 170 - 147 Harstem
18:00
Warp prism spotted by mutas, destroyed with its cargo of zealots Phoenixes being made 2 at a time Mutas a-move into blink stalkers Phoenix vs Muta fight Stalkers die but Phoenixes repel them Muta ling roach attacks, Harstem holds Phoenix number is high, Harstem has air advantage for now 8 corruptors making Spines going down Phoenix range started Nerchio dumping excess minerals in spines +1 air attack started for Harstem at 17:30 Mutas pick off one of the two stargates Infestation goes down at 17:45 200 Nerch - 175 Harstem
21:00
Huge air push into the main, lots of cannons + pylons + probes killed Hive started at 18:45 Nerchio has 2/2 air Phoenix vs muta/corruptor micro Nerch falling behind on the ground Roaches die Tod suggests Nerch goes ultras since Harstem has no immortals Nerch committing to air Harstem making gateway units and phoenix Cannons holding mutas pretty well but corruptors stave off the phoenix
174 Harstem - Nerch 154 COUNTER
22:30
Harstem goes for the base trade, gateway army gets repelled by spines but mutas are too gud Phoenix doing what they can but Harstem still losing probes fast 36 PROBES LOST THIRTY FUCKING SIX OF THEM THAT IS A LOT OF PROBES THAT IS ALMOST HOW MANY PROBES YOU START WITH IN LEGACY OF THE VOID
24:00
THE GOLD IS DOWN THE AIR BALL IS GONE NERCHIO IS MAKING MUTAS BUT WHERE ARE ALL HIS REGULAR MUTAS oh they're at the north Harstem has 4 phoenix and 4 bases (soon) Stalkers bunding up one at a time to shoot the mutas mutas leave lol Nerchio 170 - Harstem 110
On July 30 2015 03:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright full force
Game 3: Dash and Terminal: Harstem leads 2-0 Nerchio spawns at 12 | Harstem spawns at 3
3:00
Nerch goes gas first Harstem scouts for proxyhatch and goes for a 15 nex 15 gate
6:00
Speed starts just after 3:00 Lings out, queen out Harstem cancels his gas, walls off his main with forge and existing gate Pylon on low ground Harstem planning to pull probes? Chronoboosting Zealot Nexus finishes at 4:10 5 probes + Zealot on defense Nerchio droning + expanding behind this 8 lings vs probes and Zealot Cannon goes down Lings run up by BLOCKED BY HARSTEM Harstem proving this is in fact his year Cannon up Probes mine but slightly blocked (about halfway) by lings) Zealot on guard duty by 2 lots Nerch gets a probe
9:00
Core going down Second cannon behind nexus cancelled Nerch puts his third in the gold around 7:00 Harstem making partial wall at his nat Roach warren down at 7:30 Harstem getting some sentries + gates Lings breaking down Nerchio's rocks to get to the gold faster Very even supply and worker count, Nerch slightly ahead Third down for harstem (normal location) around 8:40 Lings breaking down Harstem's rocks but repelled by sentries
Nerch 80 - 73 Harstem
12:00
Lings sneak around but get out before surrounded Harstem making a push with 5 sentries, 2 zealots, MSC and a probe at 10:00 Lair spotted, pulls back Twilight finishes at 10:30 Robo goes down at 10:25 4th down at 10:40 Panic cannon in the main Spire goes down Roaches attack, Harstem FF's like a maniac, kills exactly 1 roach Nerch goes for the rocks again Harstem builds his own wall behind the rocks Photon overcharge to stop Nerch pushing nerch does it anyway!
15:00
Nerch pushes from two directions and is temporarily repelled 5th goes down at 12:00 13:00 supply count, 153-133 with Nerch ahead 2nd spire goes down Mutas coming out Mutas come into main and kill MSC but a lot die to blink stalkers Roach ling push between main and 3rd, 1 immortal dies, second one is wounded 8 mutas still flying around being assholes Blink stalkers pick off a few more mutas Harstem gets his second stargate Nech 170 - 147 Harstem
18:00
Warp prism spotted by mutas, destroyed with its cargo of zealots Phoenixes being made 2 at a time Mutas a-move into blink stalkers Phoenix vs Muta fight Stalkers die but Phoenixes repel them Muta ling roach attacks, Harstem holds Phoenix number is high, Harstem has air advantage for now 8 corruptors making Spines going down Phoenix range started Nerchio dumping excess minerals in spines +1 air attack started for Harstem at 17:30 Mutas pick off one of the two stargates Infestation goes down at 17:45 200 Nerch - 175 Harstem
21:00
Huge air push into the main, lots of cannons + pylons + probes killed Hive started at 18:45 Nerchio has 2/2 air Phoenix vs muta/corruptor micro Nerch falling behind on the ground Roaches die Tod suggests Nerch goes ultras since Harstem has no immortals Nerch committing to air Harstem making gateway units and phoenix Cannons holding mutas pretty well but corruptors stave off the phoenix
174 Harstem - Nerch 154 COUNTER
22:30
Harstem goes for the base trade, gateway army gets repelled by spines but mutas are too gud Phoenix doing what they can but Harstem still losing probes fast 36 PROBES LOST THIRTY FUCKING SIX OF THEM THAT IS A LOT OF PROBES THAT IS ALMOST HOW MANY PROBES YOU START WITH IN LEGACY OF THE VOID
24:00
THE GOLD IS DOWN THE AIR BALL IS GONE NERCHIO IS MAKING MUTAS BUT WHERE ARE ALL HIS REGULAR MUTAS oh they're at the north Harstem has 4 phoenix and 4 bases (soon) Stalkers bunding up one at a time to shoot the mutas mutas leave lol Nerchio 170 - Harstem 110
DID I MENTION THE 36 PROBES
26:30 Mutas exposed! They get a few mutas BLINK They get a few more mutas BLINK They get a few corruptors Nerch snipes the beacon Harstem has shit upgrades Producing probes in quadruple time Nerch producing tons and tons of corruptors Getting +3 armor so corruprots take no damage GG Harstem 2-1 Nerchio
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★- Good game (4)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
25%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 3?
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On July 30 2015 03:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Game 4: Cactus Valley: Harstem leads 2-1 Not Harstem spawns at 4:30 | Toss Jesus spawns at 1:30
3:00
Nerchio scouts the right direction 15 pool for nerch 15 nex for Harstem Harstem also scouts the right direction
6:00
6 lings in production 1 ling to chase the probe home 5 lings to attack Harstem directly 4:00 3rd 5 lings go up to the main, Zelot blocks Starts nibbly nibbling the pylon nibbly nibbly Goes home MSC out Harstem doing sentry gate nonsense again
On July 30 2015 03:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Game 4: Cactus Valley: Harstem leads 2-1 Not Harstem spawns at 4:30 | Toss Jesus spawns at 1:30
3:00
Nerchio scouts the right direction 15 pool for nerch 15 nex for Harstem Harstem also scouts the right direction
6:00
6 lings in production 1 ling to chase the probe home 5 lings to attack Harstem directly 4:00 3rd 5 lings go up to the main, Zelot blocks Starts nibbly nibbling the pylon nibbly nibbly Goes home MSC out Harstem doing sentry gate nonsense again
Harstem 42 - 39 Nerch
9:00
A single spine between his nat and 3rd to guards against allins 3rd for Harstem at 7:30 Burrow at 7:31 Lair finishes at 8:30 4 gates going down in addition to regular 2 ANOTHER TWO GATES at his third THAT'S EIGHT GATES Nerchio is droning!
On July 30 2015 03:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Game 4: Cactus Valley: Harstem leads 2-1 Not Harstem spawns at 4:30 | Toss Jesus spawns at 1:30
3:00
Nerchio scouts the right direction 15 pool for nerch 15 nex for Harstem Harstem also scouts the right direction
6:00
6 lings in production 1 ling to chase the probe home 5 lings to attack Harstem directly 4:00 3rd 5 lings go up to the main, Zelot blocks Starts nibbly nibbling the pylon nibbly nibbly Goes home MSC out Harstem doing sentry gate nonsense again
Harstem 42 - 39 Nerch
9:00
A single spine between his nat and 3rd to guards against allins 3rd for Harstem at 7:30 Burrow at 7:31 Lair finishes at 8:30 4 gates going down in addition to regular 2 ANOTHER TWO GATES at his third THAT'S EIGHT GATES Nerchio is droning!
12:00
7 roaches coming up the east side HARSTEM DOES NOT KNOW NERCHY IS MAKING UNITS But burrow is done! Tunneling claws almst done Harstem attacks at 10:00 Nerch attacks with burrowed roaches but cannon finishes Nerch burrows at the nat entrance Robo going down Harstem's fucked for now 2 evos + infestation done Harstem scouts it all +2 starting Robo finishing
On July 30 2015 03:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Game 4: Cactus Valley: Harstem leads 2-1 Not Harstem spawns at 4:30 | Toss Jesus spawns at 1:30
3:00
Nerchio scouts the right direction 15 pool for nerch 15 nex for Harstem Harstem also scouts the right direction
6:00
6 lings in production 1 ling to chase the probe home 5 lings to attack Harstem directly 4:00 3rd 5 lings go up to the main, Zelot blocks Starts nibbly nibbling the pylon nibbly nibbly Goes home MSC out Harstem doing sentry gate nonsense again
Harstem 42 - 39 Nerch
9:00
A single spine between his nat and 3rd to guards against allins 3rd for Harstem at 7:30 Burrow at 7:31 Lair finishes at 8:30 4 gates going down in addition to regular 2 ANOTHER TWO GATES at his third THAT'S EIGHT GATES Nerchio is droning!
12:00
7 roaches coming up the east side HARSTEM DOES NOT KNOW NERCHY IS MAKING UNITS But burrow is done! Tunneling claws almst done Harstem attacks at 10:00 Nerch attacks with burrowed roaches but cannon finishes Nerch burrows at the nat entrance Robo going down Harstem's fucked for now 2 evos + infestation done Harstem scouts it all +2 starting Robo finishing
Nerch 138 - 105 Hrastem
15:00
Nerchio has a laundry list of stuff in production Nerch on 4 bases Warp prism out for Harstem Huge amount of hydras in production Many infestors for fungals Warp prism goes to the main with zealots, sees the ultra cavern! Harstem attacks and recalls, sees the ultras, and kills 16 fucking drones Make that 18 Nerch 173-144 Harstem
On July 30 2015 03:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Game 4: Cactus Valley: Harstem leads 2-1 Not Harstem spawns at 4:30 | Toss Jesus spawns at 1:30
3:00
Nerchio scouts the right direction 15 pool for nerch 15 nex for Harstem Harstem also scouts the right direction
6:00
6 lings in production 1 ling to chase the probe home 5 lings to attack Harstem directly 4:00 3rd 5 lings go up to the main, Zelot blocks Starts nibbly nibbling the pylon nibbly nibbly Goes home MSC out Harstem doing sentry gate nonsense again
Harstem 42 - 39 Nerch
9:00
A single spine between his nat and 3rd to guards against allins 3rd for Harstem at 7:30 Burrow at 7:31 Lair finishes at 8:30 4 gates going down in addition to regular 2 ANOTHER TWO GATES at his third THAT'S EIGHT GATES Nerchio is droning!
12:00
7 roaches coming up the east side HARSTEM DOES NOT KNOW NERCHY IS MAKING UNITS But burrow is done! Tunneling claws almst done Harstem attacks at 10:00 Nerch attacks with burrowed roaches but cannon finishes Nerch burrows at the nat entrance Robo going down Harstem's fucked for now 2 evos + infestation done Harstem scouts it all +2 starting Robo finishing
Nerch 138 - 105 Hrastem
15:00
Nerchio has a laundry list of stuff in production Nerch on 4 bases Warp prism out for Harstem Huge amount of hydras in production Many infestors for fungals Warp prism goes to the main with zealots, sees the ultra cavern! Harstem attacks and recalls, sees the ultras, and kills 16 fucking drones Make that 18 Nerch 173-144 Harstem
18:00
Shrine going down 4th coming up for Harstem 10 roaches 20 hydras and 10 infestors for Nerch 4th is shot Harstem has an immortal and some HT's +3 halfway done as of 16:15 Blink stalkers harass the 4th 5ish stalkers kill a bunch of drones before they're killed Prism survives DT's do damage in the main INFESTORS SNIPED BEFORE ULTRAS CAN BREAK FFS Warp prism shot but DT still doing damage Harstem bilding up immortals 2 stargates finishing up Greater spire almost done Nerch 181 - 165 Harstem
On July 30 2015 03:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Game 4: Cactus Valley: Harstem leads 2-1 Not Harstem spawns at 4:30 | Toss Jesus spawns at 1:30
3:00
Nerchio scouts the right direction 15 pool for nerch 15 nex for Harstem Harstem also scouts the right direction
6:00
6 lings in production 1 ling to chase the probe home 5 lings to attack Harstem directly 4:00 3rd 5 lings go up to the main, Zelot blocks Starts nibbly nibbling the pylon nibbly nibbly Goes home MSC out Harstem doing sentry gate nonsense again
Harstem 42 - 39 Nerch
9:00
A single spine between his nat and 3rd to guards against allins 3rd for Harstem at 7:30 Burrow at 7:31 Lair finishes at 8:30 4 gates going down in addition to regular 2 ANOTHER TWO GATES at his third THAT'S EIGHT GATES Nerchio is droning!
12:00
7 roaches coming up the east side HARSTEM DOES NOT KNOW NERCHY IS MAKING UNITS But burrow is done! Tunneling claws almst done Harstem attacks at 10:00 Nerch attacks with burrowed roaches but cannon finishes Nerch burrows at the nat entrance Robo going down Harstem's fucked for now 2 evos + infestation done Harstem scouts it all +2 starting Robo finishing
Nerch 138 - 105 Hrastem
15:00
Nerchio has a laundry list of stuff in production Nerch on 4 bases Warp prism out for Harstem Huge amount of hydras in production Many infestors for fungals Warp prism goes to the main with zealots, sees the ultra cavern! Harstem attacks and recalls, sees the ultras, and kills 16 fucking drones Make that 18 Nerch 173-144 Harstem
18:00
Shrine going down 4th coming up for Harstem 10 roaches 20 hydras and 10 infestors for Nerch 4th is shot Harstem has an immortal and some HT's +3 halfway done as of 16:15 Blink stalkers harass the 4th 5ish stalkers kill a bunch of drones before they're killed Prism survives DT's do damage in the main INFESTORS SNIPED BEFORE ULTRAS CAN BREAK FFS Warp prism shot but DT still doing damage Harstem bilding up immortals 2 stargates finishing up Greater spire almost done Nerch 181 - 165 Harstem
Harstem leading in workers 74-57
21:00
5th coming up for Nerch with some zealot pressure No mining at 4th because salker harass Nerch goes for roach hydra ultra push Harstem pulls back and kills the ultralisk 4th is saved Warp prism + zealots chain fungald to death Broodlords out STORM STORM Roaches push the toss army back
Remember Harstem's 4th is at 3:00 and Nerch's 5th at 4:00 (interior) STORM STORM broodlords under attack STORM STORM STORM one was actually stormed to ddeath Nerch 192-192 Harstem
On July 30 2015 03:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Game 4: Cactus Valley: Harstem leads 2-1 Not Harstem spawns at 4:30 | Toss Jesus spawns at 1:30
3:00
Nerchio scouts the right direction 15 pool for nerch 15 nex for Harstem Harstem also scouts the right direction
6:00
6 lings in production 1 ling to chase the probe home 5 lings to attack Harstem directly 4:00 3rd 5 lings go up to the main, Zelot blocks Starts nibbly nibbling the pylon nibbly nibbly Goes home MSC out Harstem doing sentry gate nonsense again
Harstem 42 - 39 Nerch
9:00
A single spine between his nat and 3rd to guards against allins 3rd for Harstem at 7:30 Burrow at 7:31 Lair finishes at 8:30 4 gates going down in addition to regular 2 ANOTHER TWO GATES at his third THAT'S EIGHT GATES Nerchio is droning!
12:00
7 roaches coming up the east side HARSTEM DOES NOT KNOW NERCHY IS MAKING UNITS But burrow is done! Tunneling claws almst done Harstem attacks at 10:00 Nerch attacks with burrowed roaches but cannon finishes Nerch burrows at the nat entrance Robo going down Harstem's fucked for now 2 evos + infestation done Harstem scouts it all +2 starting Robo finishing
Nerch 138 - 105 Hrastem
15:00
Nerchio has a laundry list of stuff in production Nerch on 4 bases Warp prism out for Harstem Huge amount of hydras in production Many infestors for fungals Warp prism goes to the main with zealots, sees the ultra cavern! Harstem attacks and recalls, sees the ultras, and kills 16 fucking drones Make that 18 Nerch 173-144 Harstem
18:00
Shrine going down 4th coming up for Harstem 10 roaches 20 hydras and 10 infestors for Nerch 4th is shot Harstem has an immortal and some HT's +3 halfway done as of 16:15 Blink stalkers harass the 4th 5ish stalkers kill a bunch of drones before they're killed Prism survives DT's do damage in the main INFESTORS SNIPED BEFORE ULTRAS CAN BREAK FFS Warp prism shot but DT still doing damage Harstem bilding up immortals 2 stargates finishing up Greater spire almost done Nerch 181 - 165 Harstem
Harstem leading in workers 74-57
21:00
5th coming up for Nerch with some zealot pressure No mining at 4th because salker harass Nerch goes for roach hydra ultra push Harstem pulls back and kills the ultralisk 4th is saved Warp prism + zealots chain fungald to death Broodlords out STORM STORM Roaches push the toss army back
Remember Harstem's 4th is at 3:00 and Nerch's 5th at 4:00 (interior) STORM STORM broodlords under attack STORM STORM STORM one was actually stormed to ddeath Nerch 192-192 Harstem
24:00
Harstem has 5 immos Nerch is everywhere in small bits 2 immortals drop in the main while Harstem retreats 2 VRs done, producing 2 at a time Immortals shot but not before killing an evo Corruprots and infestors making Fleet beacon starting Harstem has lots of money and void rays Immo + zealot harass to Nerch's 4th Cleans up the spines Cleans up the hatch Nerchio's most important base falls KITES THE ULTRA TO DEATH immos clean up the roaches fungal hydras clean up the immos but roaches all die 4 hydras + 3 infestors survive Harstem 187 - 157
On July 30 2015 03:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Game 4: Cactus Valley: Harstem leads 2-1 Not Harstem spawns at 4:30 | Toss Jesus spawns at 1:30
3:00
Nerchio scouts the right direction 15 pool for nerch 15 nex for Harstem Harstem also scouts the right direction
6:00
6 lings in production 1 ling to chase the probe home 5 lings to attack Harstem directly 4:00 3rd 5 lings go up to the main, Zelot blocks Starts nibbly nibbling the pylon nibbly nibbly Goes home MSC out Harstem doing sentry gate nonsense again
Harstem 42 - 39 Nerch
9:00
A single spine between his nat and 3rd to guards against allins 3rd for Harstem at 7:30 Burrow at 7:31 Lair finishes at 8:30 4 gates going down in addition to regular 2 ANOTHER TWO GATES at his third THAT'S EIGHT GATES Nerchio is droning!
12:00
7 roaches coming up the east side HARSTEM DOES NOT KNOW NERCHY IS MAKING UNITS But burrow is done! Tunneling claws almst done Harstem attacks at 10:00 Nerch attacks with burrowed roaches but cannon finishes Nerch burrows at the nat entrance Robo going down Harstem's fucked for now 2 evos + infestation done Harstem scouts it all +2 starting Robo finishing
Nerch 138 - 105 Hrastem
15:00
Nerchio has a laundry list of stuff in production Nerch on 4 bases Warp prism out for Harstem Huge amount of hydras in production Many infestors for fungals Warp prism goes to the main with zealots, sees the ultra cavern! Harstem attacks and recalls, sees the ultras, and kills 16 fucking drones Make that 18 Nerch 173-144 Harstem
18:00
Shrine going down 4th coming up for Harstem 10 roaches 20 hydras and 10 infestors for Nerch 4th is shot Harstem has an immortal and some HT's +3 halfway done as of 16:15 Blink stalkers harass the 4th 5ish stalkers kill a bunch of drones before they're killed Prism survives DT's do damage in the main INFESTORS SNIPED BEFORE ULTRAS CAN BREAK FFS Warp prism shot but DT still doing damage Harstem bilding up immortals 2 stargates finishing up Greater spire almost done Nerch 181 - 165 Harstem
Harstem leading in workers 74-57
21:00
5th coming up for Nerch with some zealot pressure No mining at 4th because salker harass Nerch goes for roach hydra ultra push Harstem pulls back and kills the ultralisk 4th is saved Warp prism + zealots chain fungald to death Broodlords out STORM STORM Roaches push the toss army back
Remember Harstem's 4th is at 3:00 and Nerch's 5th at 4:00 (interior) STORM STORM broodlords under attack STORM STORM STORM one was actually stormed to ddeath Nerch 192-192 Harstem
24:00
Harstem has 5 immos Nerch is everywhere in small bits 2 immortals drop in the main while Harstem retreats 2 VRs done, producing 2 at a time Immortals shot but not before killing an evo Corruprots and infestors making Fleet beacon starting Harstem has lots of money and void rays Immo + zealot harass to Nerch's 4th Cleans up the spines Cleans up the hatch Nerchio's most important base falls KITES THE ULTRA TO DEATH immos clean up the roaches fungal hydras clean up the immos but roaches all die 4 hydras + 3 infestors survive Harstem 187 - 157
But harstem low on money
27:00
Harstem denies the 4th and the new 5th at the 8:00 nat Almost gets surrounded Nerch has burrowed roaches at Harstem's 4th but he forgot about them Harstem pushing towards the 4th? 5th? It's at the 4:00 interior and it's the new 4th STORM STORM fungals get a few voids STORM corruptors spearate STORM STORM STORM STORM VOID RAYS CHARGE IMMORTALS WIN THE GROUND BATTLE STORM STORM HARSTEM 3-1 AND WINS THE SERIES
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★- Good game (1)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
43%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
33%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★- Good game (1)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
43%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
33%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Harstem vs Nerchio Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 30 2015 03:53 opisska wrote: Also two quick questions: how the hell did Welmu go 0-3 and how salty is Nerchio at the moment?
Salt level : 0 Happiness level : over 9000 Finally a weight was lifted from my heart and I can move on to Lotv, was tired of Hots for quite a while already.
On July 30 2015 03:53 opisska wrote: Also two quick questions: how the hell did Welmu go 0-3 and how salty is Nerchio at the moment?
Salt level : 0 Happiness level : over 9000 Finally a weight was lifted from my heart and I can move on to Lotv, was tired of Hots for quite a while already.
On July 30 2015 03:53 opisska wrote: Also two quick questions: how the hell did Welmu go 0-3 and how salty is Nerchio at the moment?
Salt level : 0 Happiness level : over 9000 Finally a weight was lifted from my heart and I can move on to Lotv, was tired of Hots for quite a while already.
On July 30 2015 03:58 Aeromi wrote: I don't think MarineLorD is a brotherhood of FireCake.
I don't think FireCake is a brotherhood of anyone.
Also I don't think brotherhood is the correct word. Just brother no ?
Brotherhood is the right concept just not the right word. Don't think brother captures that essence or concept however. Might as well say they aren't bros.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
60%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
20%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
it's better to target the brood lords with corruptors since enemy corruptors kill yours way too slow to prevent that, even in significantly bigger numbers
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
4%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
11%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (24)
86%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 30 2015 04:45 Alchemik wrote: if Zanster's going ultras, my love for him grows even further
I should probably start watching ;;
Games 2 was mutas from FCK vs 1-1 lings. Ended up with brood lords vs ultras and 17 corruptors from Zanster barely morphing in time to snipe the broods and continue the game.
On July 30 2015 04:45 Alchemik wrote: if Zanster's going ultras, my love for him grows even further
I should probably start watching ;;
Games 2 was mutas from FCK vs 1-1 lings. Ended up with brood lords vs ultras and 17 corruptors from Zanster barely morphing in time to snipe the broods and continue the game.
that should be interesting for me to watch, I always liked going straight into infestor/queen/ultra vs mutas
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (13)
93%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
33%
★★★- Good game (3)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (3)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
56%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FireCake vs Zanster Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 30 2015 04:54 Ej_ wrote: pick someone in Challenger, lose 3-0
Do we complain about wcs format now?
Bring back groups.
Groups already are in the WCS format in Premier Ro32 and Ro16.
And isn't the fact that the pickers actually lose matches a good thing for Challenger? If the pickers were winning 3-0 all the time then I think it'd need revising.
Theory n°1 : Lilbow and MarineLorD just arrived in Finland and are happy to discover a new country. Theory n°2 : Lilbow and MarineLorD are in fact dating each other and are sharing their love to the world. Theory n°3 : Lilbow and MarineLorD just saw the result of FireCake vs Zanster.
Theory n°1 : Lilbow and MarineLorD just arrived in Finland and are happy to discover a new country. Theory n°2 : Lilbow and MarineLorD are in fact dating each other and are sharing their love to the world. Theory n°3 : Lilbow and MarineLorD just saw the result of FireCake vs Zanster.
On July 30 2015 04:54 Ej_ wrote: pick someone in Challenger, lose 3-0
Do we complain about wcs format now?
Bring back groups.
Groups already are in the WCS format in Premier Ro32 and Ro16.
And isn't the fact that the pickers actually lose matches a good thing for Challenger? If the pickers were winning 3-0 all the time then I think it'd need revising.
But bo5s are already a thing in WCS format in Premier Ro8 and beyond. I think that while having a mix of formatting is good, there's just too much riding on a single series. As a foreigner your only hope of going to blizzcon is routinely making it deep in premier, as two round of 4s has gotten Bunny ALMOST into Blizzcon. And with seeding into premier existing only for the winner you're left with a bo5 that sets up your entire year. You lose 3 maps and you aren't going to blizzcon. And to me that just isn't fair
On July 30 2015 04:54 Ej_ wrote: pick someone in Challenger, lose 3-0
Do we complain about wcs format now?
Bring back groups.
Groups already are in the WCS format in Premier Ro32 and Ro16.
And isn't the fact that the pickers actually lose matches a good thing for Challenger? If the pickers were winning 3-0 all the time then I think it'd need revising.
But bo5s are already a thing in WCS format in Premier Ro8 and beyond. I think that while having a mix of formatting is good, there's just too much riding on a single series. As a foreigner your only hope of going to blizzcon is routinely making it deep in premier, as two round of 4s has gotten Bunny ALMOST into Blizzcon. And with seeding into premier existing only for the winner you're left with a bo5 that sets up your entire year. You lose 3 maps and you aren't going to blizzcon. And to me that just isn't fair
There's a big difference between long series that you have time to prepare for and brackets played out in a single weekend. It's only the Ro8 that is comparable, but it's still very different because you see who can perform on a stage after traveling and everything, and the players can't purely prepare for one series in case they win and have to play semis/finals.
The WCS points system could definitely be revised but it's not fair to place so much significance on challenger consisting of 1xbo5 rather than 2xbo3. They aren't even that different at determining the best player. Did Bunny give a Blizzcon-worthy performance in his match? You can't let your support of a particular player affect your evaluation of the system. I don't think Bunny was given an unfair test of skill.
I think the real tragedy occurs when two titans collide in challenger and both play fantastically but one has to lose. But then that's the genius of the seeding and picking system. A good player will eventually earn a good seed, and then he has no one to blame but himself if he picks his opponent poorly.
Maybe I'm still used to the brutality of OSL/GSL in BW where the champion of one sometimes didn't make it out of the qualifiers of the other. The fact that some very good players would get stopped short (sometimes very short) on their journey to a championship, sometimes in very weird ways, was just part of the scene. In any case, I love the tension and the real sense of clash you get between players in an isolated Bo5 single elim, as opposed to groups or brackets played out in a weekend where it feels more like players are just crossing each others' paths until you get to the finals.
If I would change anything it'd be the year-long points system and annual championship. Every year there's a weird pool of players who were peaking at different times. Most competitions (for other games and sports) have much shorter seasons. And the more of a team game the competition is, the more it's okay for it to be a longer season. It's really unwise for 9 months of results to be used for such a competitive cutoff. There are always too many players rank 17+ who would perform better than some who qualified. It would be cool if there were two preliminary rounds played before blizzcon weekend so that the top 64 players could have a chance.
On July 30 2015 04:54 Ej_ wrote: pick someone in Challenger, lose 3-0
Do we complain about wcs format now?
Bring back groups.
Groups already are in the WCS format in Premier Ro32 and Ro16.
And isn't the fact that the pickers actually lose matches a good thing for Challenger? If the pickers were winning 3-0 all the time then I think it'd need revising.
But bo5s are already a thing in WCS format in Premier Ro8 and beyond. I think that while having a mix of formatting is good, there's just too much riding on a single series. As a foreigner your only hope of going to blizzcon is routinely making it deep in premier, as two round of 4s has gotten Bunny ALMOST into Blizzcon. And with seeding into premier existing only for the winner you're left with a bo5 that sets up your entire year. You lose 3 maps and you aren't going to blizzcon. And to me that just isn't fair
There's a big difference between long series that you have time to prepare for and brackets played out in a single weekend. It's only the Ro8 that is comparable, but it's still very different because you see who can perform on a stage after traveling and everything, and the players can't purely prepare for one series in case they win and have to play semis/finals.
The WCS points system could definitely be revised but it's not fair to place so much significance on challenger consisting of 1xbo5 rather than 2xbo3. They aren't even that different at determining the best player. Did Bunny give a Blizzcon-worthy performance in his match? You can't let your support of a particular player affect your evaluation of the system. I don't think Bunny was given an unfair test of skill.
I think the real tragedy occurs when two titans collide in challenger and both play fantastically but one has to lose. But then that's the genius of the seeding and picking system. A good player will eventually earn a good seed, and then he has no one to blame but himself if he picks his opponent poorly.
Maybe I'm still used to the brutality of OSL/GSL in BW where the champion of one sometimes didn't make it out of the qualifiers of the other. The fact that some very good players would get stopped short (sometimes very short) on their journey to a championship, sometimes in very weird ways, was just part of the scene. In any case, I love the tension and the real sense of clash you get between players in an isolated Bo5 single elim, as opposed to groups or brackets played out in a weekend where it feels more like players are just crossing each others' paths until you get to the finals.
If I would change anything it'd be the year-long points system and annual championship. Every year there's a weird pool of players who were peaking at different times. Most competitions (for other games and sports) have much shorter seasons. And the more of a team game the competition is, the more it's okay for it to be a longer season. It's really unwise for 9 months of results to be used for such a competitive cutoff. There are always too many players rank 17+ who would perform better than some who qualified. It would be cool if there were two preliminary rounds played before blizzcon weekend so that the top 64 players could have a chance.
I actually like this idea. Or at least a Ro32. You have a bit more selection in the caliber of players going to Blizzcon, and with a good enough upset (or two), you see a foreigner make it on the stage as well. Everyone wins.
On July 30 2015 04:54 Ej_ wrote: pick someone in Challenger, lose 3-0
Do we complain about wcs format now?
Bring back groups.
Groups already are in the WCS format in Premier Ro32 and Ro16.
And isn't the fact that the pickers actually lose matches a good thing for Challenger? If the pickers were winning 3-0 all the time then I think it'd need revising.
But bo5s are already a thing in WCS format in Premier Ro8 and beyond. I think that while having a mix of formatting is good, there's just too much riding on a single series. As a foreigner your only hope of going to blizzcon is routinely making it deep in premier, as two round of 4s has gotten Bunny ALMOST into Blizzcon. And with seeding into premier existing only for the winner you're left with a bo5 that sets up your entire year. You lose 3 maps and you aren't going to blizzcon. And to me that just isn't fair
There's a big difference between long series that you have time to prepare for and brackets played out in a single weekend. It's only the Ro8 that is comparable, but it's still very different because you see who can perform on a stage after traveling and everything, and the players can't purely prepare for one series in case they win and have to play semis/finals.
The WCS points system could definitely be revised but it's not fair to place so much significance on challenger consisting of 1xbo5 rather than 2xbo3. They aren't even that different at determining the best player. Did Bunny give a Blizzcon-worthy performance in his match? You can't let your support of a particular player affect your evaluation of the system. I don't think Bunny was given an unfair test of skill.
I think the real tragedy occurs when two titans collide in challenger and both play fantastically but one has to lose. But then that's the genius of the seeding and picking system. A good player will eventually earn a good seed, and then he has no one to blame but himself if he picks his opponent poorly.
Maybe I'm still used to the brutality of OSL/GSL in BW where the champion of one sometimes didn't make it out of the qualifiers of the other. The fact that some very good players would get stopped short (sometimes very short) on their journey to a championship, sometimes in very weird ways, was just part of the scene. In any case, I love the tension and the real sense of clash you get between players in an isolated Bo5 single elim, as opposed to groups or brackets played out in a weekend where it feels more like players are just crossing each others' paths until you get to the finals.
If I would change anything it'd be the year-long points system and annual championship. Every year there's a weird pool of players who were peaking at different times. Most competitions (for other games and sports) have much shorter seasons. And the more of a team game the competition is, the more it's okay for it to be a longer season. It's really unwise for 9 months of results to be used for such a competitive cutoff. There are always too many players rank 17+ who would perform better than some who qualified. It would be cool if there were two preliminary rounds played before blizzcon weekend so that the top 64 players could have a chance.
Bring back the season finals ! Top GSL, SSL and WCS clashing !
On July 30 2015 04:54 Ej_ wrote: pick someone in Challenger, lose 3-0
Do we complain about wcs format now?
Bring back groups.
Groups already are in the WCS format in Premier Ro32 and Ro16.
And isn't the fact that the pickers actually lose matches a good thing for Challenger? If the pickers were winning 3-0 all the time then I think it'd need revising.
But bo5s are already a thing in WCS format in Premier Ro8 and beyond. I think that while having a mix of formatting is good, there's just too much riding on a single series. As a foreigner your only hope of going to blizzcon is routinely making it deep in premier, as two round of 4s has gotten Bunny ALMOST into Blizzcon. And with seeding into premier existing only for the winner you're left with a bo5 that sets up your entire year. You lose 3 maps and you aren't going to blizzcon. And to me that just isn't fair
There's a big difference between long series that you have time to prepare for and brackets played out in a single weekend. It's only the Ro8 that is comparable, but it's still very different because you see who can perform on a stage after traveling and everything, and the players can't purely prepare for one series in case they win and have to play semis/finals.
The WCS points system could definitely be revised but it's not fair to place so much significance on challenger consisting of 1xbo5 rather than 2xbo3. They aren't even that different at determining the best player. Did Bunny give a Blizzcon-worthy performance in his match? You can't let your support of a particular player affect your evaluation of the system. I don't think Bunny was given an unfair test of skill.
I think the real tragedy occurs when two titans collide in challenger and both play fantastically but one has to lose. But then that's the genius of the seeding and picking system. A good player will eventually earn a good seed, and then he has no one to blame but himself if he picks his opponent poorly.
Maybe I'm still used to the brutality of OSL/GSL in BW where the champion of one sometimes didn't make it out of the qualifiers of the other. The fact that some very good players would get stopped short (sometimes very short) on their journey to a championship, sometimes in very weird ways, was just part of the scene. In any case, I love the tension and the real sense of clash you get between players in an isolated Bo5 single elim, as opposed to groups or brackets played out in a weekend where it feels more like players are just crossing each others' paths until you get to the finals.
If I would change anything it'd be the year-long points system and annual championship. Every year there's a weird pool of players who were peaking at different times. Most competitions (for other games and sports) have much shorter seasons. And the more of a team game the competition is, the more it's okay for it to be a longer season. It's really unwise for 9 months of results to be used for such a competitive cutoff. There are always too many players rank 17+ who would perform better than some who qualified. It would be cool if there were two preliminary rounds played before blizzcon weekend so that the top 64 players could have a chance.
I think that the main difference between how brutal OSL/GSL where is that a champion of one not qualifying for another didn't have as large of an impact as not making it in a season of challenger. Unless I'm wrong, losing in an OSL/MSL qualifier was just "too bad see you next season", where failing to get into premier is "woops sorry better luck next year". Although I do agree when you have matches in challenger that are two really good players it sucks to see one go. Though that could also be partially mitigated by a better seeding system. You run a much smaller risk of "good players" running into each other in challenger if more than just the winner are seeded into next season.
It depends how much you view WCS as being all about Blizzcon. If Blizzcon doesn't exist, each WCS season is pretty comparable to an OSL/GSL season. They have good prize money. Of course Blizzcon has more but it could be better viewed as a bonus tournament to reward people who happen to do well 3 seasons in a row within the same calendar year haha. I feel bad for someone who does well in like Season 3 then Season 1 and 2 of the next year "sorry your performances didn't line up with the appropriate positions of the earth in the solar system that we arbitrarily chose!"
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