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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 19 2015 02:46 GMT
#181
On July 19 2015 11:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:36 chipmonklord17 wrote:
How is Apollo single?

He is working on a romeo and juliet relationship i think

Isn't Apollo the god of destiny?

That fucker's the reason it ended so poorly
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 19 2015 02:47 GMT
#182
Supper eaten, fresh brewsky grabbed, now I'm really ready to cheer

GO SNUTE GO
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 19 2015 02:47 GMT
#183
LETS GO TY!
why even
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 02:48:20
July 19 2015 02:47 GMT
#184
On July 19 2015 11:39 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:33 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:31 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:29 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:28 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:24 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:21 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:20 chipmonklord17 wrote:
[quote]

herO getting WCS points is meaningless to him

Not meaningless to other players who have only played Koreans so far :D


Ask herO if he cares about them

Irrelevant whether or not herO cares in this case


Not really, herO is top dog in WCS points and can't possibly leave the top 8, herO getting any more WCS points is literally meaningless to everyone. Especially with Parting and Classic also on lock for blizzcon

But there are players here who desperately want WCS points, and who gives a fuck what herO thinks about that? W/e bow down to based god randomization it is the only way to run a tournament fairly

I don't think they should have rigged the brackets after seeing the player distribution, that's BS. The real solution would've been having more good players show up for the open bracket like they usually do.

Seeding players isn't rigging the god damn brackets LOL why can nobody in the sc2 scene grasp the concept of seeding

They did do seeding, 1st place vs 2nd place. Alternatively I guess they could've done seeding tie breakers by WCS Points so that #1 seed would be the 1st placer who has the most WCS Points and they would face the 2nd placer who has the least WCS Points. But they wouldn't have needed that if there weren't so many dropouts.

And they happened to draw A vs B C vs D. Plus with bracket rule of "if a player is in your group you can't possibly face him again til the finals" it's really a 50/50. Losira for example could only have played Classic or XY so essentially he lost $1000 on a coin flip. Not saying it's that easy to do it better (although other games seed players based on skill ALL THE TIME and it never causes as many problems as sc2's beloved randomization) I'm saying that sucks big time


Not even remotely true.

We didn't draw any groups vs any specific group.

Losira could have played ANY of the second places.

It was a random draw with two parameters.

1st vs 2nd
One player from A/B/C/D in each half or bracket.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 19 2015 02:47 GMT
#185
SWIGGY SNUTY
GO FOR THE BOOTY
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10086 Posts
July 19 2015 02:48 GMT
#186
lets go Snute #believe
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
July 19 2015 02:48 GMT
#187
REP KT TY.
rip passion
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 19 2015 02:49 GMT
#188
On July 19 2015 11:42 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess.


Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year

And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU.


Or in the top 16. Coincidence?

Moral: America is #1


Sure...let's go with that

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:42 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess.


Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year

And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU.


Or in the top 16. Coincidence?

Bomber made it to blizzcon ro4 in 2013 playing from Korea. MC retired. Try again


1) It was a joke
2) Getting in through EU/AM as a Korean was infinitely easier than a Korean getting through from Korea

Honestly it's not hard even as a Korean in Korea as long as you just go to all the weekend tournaments. Jaedong didn't do shit in WCS NA last season but EG sent him to everything so he got in based on the sheer number of tournaments he attended. Fantasy is an example of a korean player likely to make it to Blizzcon based almost entirely off weekend tournaments
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 19 2015 02:49 GMT
#189
On July 19 2015 11:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:36 chipmonklord17 wrote:
How is Apollo single?

He is working on a romeo and juliet relationship i think

Isn't Apollo the god of destiny?

That fucker's the reason it ended so poorly

I am not sure if that would help him against the dueling families which are sc2 and lol though
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 19 2015 02:50 GMT
#190
On July 19 2015 11:47 messioso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:39 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:33 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:31 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:29 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:28 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:24 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:21 Yorkie wrote:
[quote]
Not meaningless to other players who have only played Koreans so far :D


Ask herO if he cares about them

Irrelevant whether or not herO cares in this case


Not really, herO is top dog in WCS points and can't possibly leave the top 8, herO getting any more WCS points is literally meaningless to everyone. Especially with Parting and Classic also on lock for blizzcon

But there are players here who desperately want WCS points, and who gives a fuck what herO thinks about that? W/e bow down to based god randomization it is the only way to run a tournament fairly

I don't think they should have rigged the brackets after seeing the player distribution, that's BS. The real solution would've been having more good players show up for the open bracket like they usually do.

Seeding players isn't rigging the god damn brackets LOL why can nobody in the sc2 scene grasp the concept of seeding

They did do seeding, 1st place vs 2nd place. Alternatively I guess they could've done seeding tie breakers by WCS Points so that #1 seed would be the 1st placer who has the most WCS Points and they would face the 2nd placer who has the least WCS Points. But they wouldn't have needed that if there weren't so many dropouts.

And they happened to draw A vs B C vs D. Plus with bracket rule of "if a player is in your group you can't possibly face him again til the finals" it's really a 50/50. Losira for example could only have played Classic or XY so essentially he lost $1000 on a coin flip. Not saying it's that easy to do it better (although other games seed players based on skill ALL THE TIME and it never causes as many problems as sc2's beloved randomization) I'm saying that sucks big time


Not even remotely true.

We didn't draw any groups vs any specific group.

Losira could have played ANY of the second places.

It was a random draw with two parameters.

1st vs 2nd
One player from A/B/C/D in each half or bracket.

Read the second parameter. Then explain how Losira could have played vs any 2nd place LOL
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 19 2015 02:50 GMT
#191
On July 19 2015 11:49 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:42 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess.


Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year

And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU.


Or in the top 16. Coincidence?

Moral: America is #1


Sure...let's go with that

On July 19 2015 11:42 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess.


Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year

And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU.


Or in the top 16. Coincidence?

Bomber made it to blizzcon ro4 in 2013 playing from Korea. MC retired. Try again


1) It was a joke
2) Getting in through EU/AM as a Korean was infinitely easier than a Korean getting through from Korea

Honestly it's not hard even as a Korean in Korea as long as you just go to all the weekend tournaments. Jaedong didn't do shit in WCS NA last season but EG sent him to everything so he got in based on the sheer number of tournaments he attended. Fantasy is an example of a korean player likely to make it to Blizzcon based almost entirely off weekend tournaments


Well yea, but its still easier in WCS than in SSL/GSL regardless of SSL/GSL + weekend tournaments being better than just SSL/GSL or WCS
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 19 2015 02:51 GMT
#192
as a reward for my passion these past few days I bought myself a tub of ben & jerry's
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
July 19 2015 02:51 GMT
#193
On July 19 2015 11:51 Larkin wrote:
as a reward for my passion these past few days I bought myself a tub of ben & jerry's


show pics of it with the match in the background
rip passion
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 19 2015 02:51 GMT
#194
just in case the image of a nerd eating ice cream and watching sc2 might cheer you up
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 19 2015 02:53 GMT
#195
That overlord transfuse <3
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 19 2015 02:54 GMT
#196
On July 19 2015 11:51 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:51 Larkin wrote:
as a reward for my passion these past few days I bought myself a tub of ben & jerry's


show pics of it with the match in the background


Could not upload RIP
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 02:55:13
July 19 2015 02:54 GMT
#197
On July 19 2015 11:50 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:47 messioso wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:39 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:33 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:31 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:29 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:28 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:24 Yorkie wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:
[quote]

Ask herO if he cares about them

Irrelevant whether or not herO cares in this case


Not really, herO is top dog in WCS points and can't possibly leave the top 8, herO getting any more WCS points is literally meaningless to everyone. Especially with Parting and Classic also on lock for blizzcon

But there are players here who desperately want WCS points, and who gives a fuck what herO thinks about that? W/e bow down to based god randomization it is the only way to run a tournament fairly

I don't think they should have rigged the brackets after seeing the player distribution, that's BS. The real solution would've been having more good players show up for the open bracket like they usually do.

Seeding players isn't rigging the god damn brackets LOL why can nobody in the sc2 scene grasp the concept of seeding

They did do seeding, 1st place vs 2nd place. Alternatively I guess they could've done seeding tie breakers by WCS Points so that #1 seed would be the 1st placer who has the most WCS Points and they would face the 2nd placer who has the least WCS Points. But they wouldn't have needed that if there weren't so many dropouts.

And they happened to draw A vs B C vs D. Plus with bracket rule of "if a player is in your group you can't possibly face him again til the finals" it's really a 50/50. Losira for example could only have played Classic or XY so essentially he lost $1000 on a coin flip. Not saying it's that easy to do it better (although other games seed players based on skill ALL THE TIME and it never causes as many problems as sc2's beloved randomization) I'm saying that sucks big time


Not even remotely true.

We didn't draw any groups vs any specific group.

Losira could have played ANY of the second places.

It was a random draw with two parameters.

1st vs 2nd
One player from A/B/C/D in each half or bracket.

Read the second parameter. Then explain how Losira could have played vs any 2nd place LOL


Because at the start of the draw there are no players on the grid. So he COULD have played vs any of the second places, depending on the other 1st place in his side of the grid. Obviously as the draw goes on the chances of playing certain opponents diminishes/increases depending on how it plays out.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
July 19 2015 02:54 GMT
#198
haha is this WoL? What a marine tank god
rip passion
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
July 19 2015 02:55 GMT
#199
On July 19 2015 11:54 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 11:51 Deathstar wrote:
On July 19 2015 11:51 Larkin wrote:
as a reward for my passion these past few days I bought myself a tub of ben & jerry's


show pics of it with the match in the background


Could not upload RIP


rip
enjoy the ice cream
rip passion
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 19 2015 02:55 GMT
#200
i love ty
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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