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what? 2 streams? they can't even have all quarters on main?
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On July 19 2015 11:34 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Holy cow did the foreigners get lucky with the 4 groups lol. uThermal and XY made it through simply because there was only 1 Korean in each of their groups. Snute bossed it up in group 2 though lol. Well, if Snute wins this IEM, he'll have an argument for the best PvZ of all time.
Norwegian ZvP > French PvZ
Also lol my stream froze on the best image:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kMuXfpa.png)
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On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year
taeja is different and MMA has shown he can cut it in the KR leagues. but point taken.
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On July 19 2015 11:33 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:31 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:29 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:28 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:24 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:21 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:20 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:20 Yorkie wrote:
herO just got $2,000 and 375 WCS points for beating Cyan, jim, and XY LOL. No wonder he loves IEM so much herO getting WCS points is meaningless to him Not meaningless to other players who have only played Koreans so far :D Ask herO if he cares about them  Irrelevant whether or not herO cares in this case Not really, herO is top dog in WCS points and can't possibly leave the top 8, herO getting any more WCS points is literally meaningless to everyone. Especially with Parting and Classic also on lock for blizzcon But there are players here who desperately want WCS points, and who gives a fuck what herO thinks about that? W/e bow down to based god randomization it is the only way to run a tournament fairly I don't think they should have rigged the brackets after seeing the player distribution, that's BS. The real solution would've been having more good players show up for the open bracket like they usually do. Seeding players isn't rigging the god damn brackets LOL why can nobody in the sc2 scene grasp the concept of seeding They did do seeding, 1st place vs 2nd place. Alternatively I guess they could've done seeding tie breakers by WCS Points so that #1 seed would be the 1st placer who has the most WCS Points and they would face the 2nd placer who has the least WCS Points. But they wouldn't have needed that if there weren't so many dropouts.
And they happened to draw A vs B C vs D. Plus with bracket rule of "if a player is in your group you can't possibly face him again til the finals" it's really a 50/50. Losira for example could only have played Classic or XY so essentially he lost $1000 on a coin flip. Not saying it's that easy to do it better (although other games seed players based on skill ALL THE TIME and it never causes as many problems as sc2's beloved randomization) I'm saying that sucks big time
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On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year
And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU.
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On July 19 2015 11:34 Deathstar wrote:
WHO WANTS TO SIGBET ME? SNUTE VS TY. 2 WEEK. I AM WITH TY
I'll bite.
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On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU.
Or in the top 16. Coincidence?
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On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year
Bomber was also a legitimate championship contender last year and the year before playing in korea in 2013 and America in 2014. Jaedong made the ro4 in 2013 playing in WCS America.
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On July 19 2015 11:39 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:33 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:31 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:29 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:28 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:24 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:21 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:20 chipmonklord17 wrote:
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herO getting WCS points is meaningless to him Not meaningless to other players who have only played Koreans so far :D Ask herO if he cares about them Irrelevant whether or not herO cares in this case Not really, herO is top dog in WCS points and can't possibly leave the top 8, herO getting any more WCS points is literally meaningless to everyone. Especially with Parting and Classic also on lock for blizzcon But there are players here who desperately want WCS points, and who gives a fuck what herO thinks about that? W/e bow down to based god randomization it is the only way to run a tournament fairly I don't think they should have rigged the brackets after seeing the player distribution, that's BS. The real solution would've been having more good players show up for the open bracket like they usually do. Seeding players isn't rigging the god damn brackets LOL why can nobody in the sc2 scene grasp the concept of seeding They did do seeding, 1st place vs 2nd place. Alternatively I guess they could've done seeding tie breakers by WCS Points so that #1 seed would be the 1st placer who has the most WCS Points and they would face the 2nd placer who has the least WCS Points. But they wouldn't have needed that if there weren't so many dropouts. And they happened to draw A vs B C vs D. Plus with bracket rule of "if a player is in your group you can't possibly face him again til the finals" it's really a 50/50. Losira for example could only have played Classic or XY so essentially he lost $1000 on a coin flip. Not saying it's that easy to do it better (although other games seed players based on skill ALL THE TIME and it never causes as many problems as sc2's beloved randomization) I'm saying that sucks big time
You could also say these players all lucked out given the dropouts and weak open bracket.
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On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU. Or in the top 16. Coincidence?
Moral: America is #1
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On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU. Or in the top 16. Coincidence?
Bomber made it to blizzcon ro4 in 2013 playing from Korea. MC retired. Try again
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On July 19 2015 11:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU. Or in the top 16. Coincidence? Moral: America is #1
Sure...let's go with that
On July 19 2015 11:42 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU. Or in the top 16. Coincidence? Bomber made it to blizzcon ro4 in 2013 playing from Korea. MC retired. Try again
1) It was a joke
2) Getting in through EU/AM as a Korean was infinitely easier than a Korean getting through from Korea
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On July 19 2015 11:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:34 Deathstar wrote:
WHO WANTS TO SIGBET ME? SNUTE VS TY. 2 WEEK. I AM WITH TY I'll bite.
Ok. 2 weeks
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they are all talking up snute's chances. he will get smashed 3-1.
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On July 19 2015 11:42 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU. Or in the top 16. Coincidence? Moral: America is #1 Sure...let's go with that
america: we will adopt you if you are good. go captain america and hail hydra
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On July 19 2015 11:43 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:42 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 19 2015 11:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:40 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:38 stuchiu wrote:On July 19 2015 11:36 dazed25 wrote:
i want to see a 16 man bracket for blizzcon where each of the 16 players is a contender for the championship as opposed to players (cough eu/na koreans) that would peak at ro8 or ro4 at most. regardless of current wcs point standings. might end up looking like the later stages of a iem kr/asia qualifier brackets. or maybe a kespa cup i guess. Taeja and MMA were 2 of the top 4 last year And Bomber was top 8 but lost to MMA, Polt and MC put up great fights. Then again none of these players except Polt are still in NA/EU. Or in the top 16. Coincidence? Moral: America is #1 Sure...let's go with that america: we will adopt you if you are good. go captain america and hail hydra
Don't forget our homegrown American heroes - Larry and Arium!
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The real question today, did uThermal down 20 nuggets for breakfast again?
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On July 19 2015 11:36 chipmonklord17 wrote:
How is Apollo single?
He is working on a romeo and juliet relationship i think
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Time for Snute to feel the power of MMMM stomping over zerg corpses
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On July 19 2015 11:41 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 11:39 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:33 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:31 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:29 Die4Ever wrote:On July 19 2015 11:28 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:24 Yorkie wrote:On July 19 2015 11:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 19 2015 11:21 Yorkie wrote:
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Not meaningless to other players who have only played Koreans so far :D Ask herO if he cares about them Irrelevant whether or not herO cares in this case Not really, herO is top dog in WCS points and can't possibly leave the top 8, herO getting any more WCS points is literally meaningless to everyone. Especially with Parting and Classic also on lock for blizzcon But there are players here who desperately want WCS points, and who gives a fuck what herO thinks about that? W/e bow down to based god randomization it is the only way to run a tournament fairly I don't think they should have rigged the brackets after seeing the player distribution, that's BS. The real solution would've been having more good players show up for the open bracket like they usually do. Seeding players isn't rigging the god damn brackets LOL why can nobody in the sc2 scene grasp the concept of seeding They did do seeding, 1st place vs 2nd place. Alternatively I guess they could've done seeding tie breakers by WCS Points so that #1 seed would be the 1st placer who has the most WCS Points and they would face the 2nd placer who has the least WCS Points. But they wouldn't have needed that if there weren't so many dropouts. And they happened to draw A vs B C vs D. Plus with bracket rule of "if a player is in your group you can't possibly face him again til the finals" it's really a 50/50. Losira for example could only have played Classic or XY so essentially he lost $1000 on a coin flip. Not saying it's that easy to do it better (although other games seed players based on skill ALL THE TIME and it never causes as many problems as sc2's beloved randomization) I'm saying that sucks big time You could also say these players all lucked out given the dropouts and weak open bracket.
Okay? Doesn't change the fact that Losira lost $1000 on a coin flip, something a piss drunk gambler in vegas wouldn't even have happen to them. It's even worse because he lost the 1k after working much harder to even get to the point where they flipped the coin than anybody except Snute. Again, nobody seems to want seeding in sc2 so fine, but you have to admit that the result sucks for him (and Snute tbh)
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EPT
