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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 18:26:39
May 09 2015 18:25 GMT
#1961
On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.

Stating the truth

Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s


Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time?

A bit of topic: It's pretty big tell on your own opinion about those things when a comment about things "stay the same" is interpreted as pessimism.

And yeah, blizzard had 5years to change shit with protoss and has always denied that FFs or warpgates create those problems. Why would they suddenly come to terms?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 09 2015 18:25 GMT
#1962
On May 10 2015 03:24 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.

Stating the truth

Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s


Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time?

Seriously SGTK your posts are like american beer currently.

Watery and flavourless? I don't get it
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 09 2015 18:26 GMT
#1963
On May 10 2015 03:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:23 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:20 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:19 Elentos wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:18 TheDwf wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ):


You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling.

Join the Cult of the Roach, or fall into the nothingness that awaits inferior creatures

At least the dark side allows for 11/11. I'm fine where I'm at.

I mean I think you can 11 gas/11 roach warren. I don't guarantee results though.

So you admit Zerg is the dark side? <.<

There is no dark side. There is only the Roach.

Stop trying to kill my passion for this game with bad units.

One day your soul shall be saved.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 09 2015 18:26 GMT
#1964
On May 10 2015 03:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:24 boxerfred wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.

Stating the truth

Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s


Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time?

Seriously SGTK your posts are like american beer currently.

Watery and flavourless? I don't get it

yeah fucking close to water, you're whining
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
May 09 2015 18:26 GMT
#1965
Let's hope for a TvP finals.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
May 09 2015 18:26 GMT
#1966
On May 10 2015 03:25 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.

Stating the truth

Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s


Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time?

Not expecting changes is part of the "being realistic" part.


And it is optimistic on top of it, because the things most of the people here want changed are those I like the most anyway, so no change is probably for the best (as change into something other equally awesome seems unlikely, because everyone just wants a boring balanced "esport").
I understood what you mean but I despise your wording
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1967
I like force fields.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1968
On May 10 2015 03:26 cheekymonkey wrote:
Let's hope for a TvP finals.

why would you want that

does gumiho do scv pulls someone pls say no
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1969
On May 10 2015 03:26 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:25 Elentos wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:23 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:20 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:19 Elentos wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:18 TheDwf wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ):


You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling.

Join the Cult of the Roach, or fall into the nothingness that awaits inferior creatures

At least the dark side allows for 11/11. I'm fine where I'm at.

I mean I think you can 11 gas/11 roach warren. I don't guarantee results though.

So you admit Zerg is the dark side? <.<

There is no dark side. There is only the Roach.

Stop trying to kill my passion for this game with bad units.

One day your soul shall be saved.

Nah. I've embraced the way of flying buildings.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1970
i keep trying to watch matches between doing other stuff but every single time i put the stream on it's just guys standing around talking
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1971
You guys need to learn how to snark you are all terrible at it
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1972
On May 10 2015 03:27 cheekymonkey wrote:
I like force fields.

thats such a cheeky comment
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1973
On May 10 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:26 cheekymonkey wrote:
Let's hope for a TvP finals.

why would you want that

does gumiho do scv pulls someone pls say no

He makes tanks and loses mostly.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1974
On May 10 2015 03:25 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.

Stating the truth

Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s


Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time?

A bit of topic: It's pretty big tell on your own opinion about those things when a comment about things "stay the same" is interpreted as pessimism.

And yeah, blizzard had 5years to change shit with protoss and has always denied that FFs or warpgates create those problems. Why would they suddenly come to terms?


Oh yes, I acknowledge problem but it's not like I am not enjoying the game.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 18:28:22
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1975
On May 10 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:26 cheekymonkey wrote:
Let's hope for a TvP finals.

why would you want that

does gumiho do scv pulls someone pls say no

GuMiho doesn't SCV pull a lot from what I can tell. But vs PartinG that's not so much of a concern because surviving to the point where you could pull SCVs is much harder.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 09 2015 18:27 GMT
#1976
On May 10 2015 03:27 travis wrote:
i keep trying to watch matches between doing other stuff but every single time i put the stream on it's just guys standing around talking

it's the new patch, must've missed the notes or something
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 09 2015 18:28 GMT
#1977
On May 10 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:26 cheekymonkey wrote:
Let's hope for a TvP finals.

why would you want that

does gumiho do scv pulls someone pls say no

No, or not much at least
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
May 09 2015 18:28 GMT
#1978
On May 10 2015 03:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:26 cheekymonkey wrote:
Let's hope for a TvP finals.

why would you want that

does gumiho do scv pulls someone pls say no


The old gumiho will reincarnate and we'll see drops everywhere.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 09 2015 18:28 GMT
#1979
If BW had Forcefields it might not have died.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
May 09 2015 18:28 GMT
#1980
Richard is quite good as a host, but his body language bother me. I don't exactly why.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
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