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On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s
Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time?
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On May 10 2015 03:22 Heyoka wrote:
omg where is waxangel
WHERE IS WAX?
having a beer with Byun
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On May 10 2015 03:22 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:20 boxerfred wrote:On May 10 2015 03:15 OtherWorld wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ): You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling. Have a guess OtherWorld is the DLO of ZvZ Who's DLO
the Austrian PvP loving TL staff/writer 
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On May 10 2015 03:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:20 Noonius wrote:On May 10 2015 03:19 Lorning wrote:
Wowowow
#BringBackWax wax got fired? Had to separate him from Richard or else Wax was going to kick his ass!
they were like polar opposites. one guy with 0 game knowledge trying to get by on charm/banter and the other was wax trying to get by purely on snark and knowledge.
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On May 10 2015 03:22 Heyoka wrote:
omg where is waxangel
WHERE IS WAX?
Hopefully he isn't missing or anything.
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On May 10 2015 03:21 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:20 OtherWorld wrote:On May 10 2015 03:19 Elentos wrote:On May 10 2015 03:18 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ): You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling. Join the Cult of the Roach, or fall into the nothingness that awaits inferior creatures At least the dark side allows for 11/11. I'm fine where I'm at. I mean I think you can 11 gas/11 roach warren. I don't guarantee results though. So you admit Zerg is the dark side? <.<
There is no dark side. There is only the Roach.
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I just love Harstem - such a nice guy. Wish he had kept in....but those Koreans are still tough.
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On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time?
Not expecting changes is part of the "being realistic" part.
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On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time?
Seriously SGTK your posts are like american beer currently.
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On May 10 2015 03:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:18 Deathstar wrote:
This will be my last post on protoss. I hate warp gates (srsly what were they smoking when they thought of warp gates?) and I hate FFs. Warp gates are a cool idea, and would be awesome if there was some sort of downside to using them and there was a choice to be made between warp gates and normal gateways, but currently it's just a delayed tech for the sake of balance and it's not interesting. Forcefields could also be cool if they were heavily redesigned to be actually counterable
You don't need to change force fields too much, just give some counter balance to zerg that allows to apply their skills to lessen the effect of force fields in ways other than army movement (infestors can do it in theory atm but nobody has a solid build for that yet since SH covered that gap before)
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On May 10 2015 03:24 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time? Seriously SGTK your posts are like american beer currently.
he's always been like this
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On May 10 2015 03:24 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time? Seriously SGTK your posts are like american beer currently.
Pisswasser?
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On May 10 2015 03:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time? Not expecting changes is part of the "being realistic" part.
ok lol.
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On May 10 2015 03:23 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:21 Elentos wrote:On May 10 2015 03:20 OtherWorld wrote:On May 10 2015 03:19 Elentos wrote:On May 10 2015 03:18 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ): You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling. Join the Cult of the Roach, or fall into the nothingness that awaits inferior creatures At least the dark side allows for 11/11. I'm fine where I'm at. I mean I think you can 11 gas/11 roach warren. I don't guarantee results though. So you admit Zerg is the dark side? <.< There is no dark side. There is only the Roach.
Stop trying to kill my passion for this game with bad units.
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On May 10 2015 03:24 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:24 boxerfred wrote:On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time? Seriously SGTK your posts are like american beer currently. Pisswasser?
I wanted to go down the "fucking close to water" road and imply some salt but you just ruined it
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On May 10 2015 03:24 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:24 boxerfred wrote:On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time? Seriously SGTK your posts are like american beer currently. Pisswasser?
I actually laughed. That was a good one
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On May 10 2015 03:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time? Not expecting changes is part of the "being realistic" part.
And it is optimistic on top of it, because the things most of the people here want changed are those I like the most anyway, so no change is probably for the best (as change into something other equally awesome seems unlikely, because everyone just wants a boring balanced "esport").
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