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On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.
Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.
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On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.
They'll scale back all the changes and basically it'll all be the same. Blizzard is completely convinced that Protoss's design is amazing and they won't change a damn thing
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On May 10 2015 03:14 Roadog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:12 Yorkie wrote:On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ? DH isn't super high on his criteria so it may not change his ranking that much. Might barely put him in though since everyone is so close. I don't think he'll be in though since he didn't run into any of the other current top players here Well it said "He'd probably just need to take a Top 4 at a Tier 2 event to break into the top 15" in the "Bonus Edition" and this is a Tier 2 event, so he's already in now by this standard
This DH isn't a tier 2 event with Stuchiu's criteria...
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On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling.
Have a guess
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55 pages to get to same amount as yesterday, keep posting nerds
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On May 10 2015 03:13 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ? With this DH lineup, this DH will be give the lowest tier for sure. Parting has to show what he can do in Korea not in this weak DH
Correct. Now say, if this DH was as stacked as 2013 Dreamhack Bucharest was, or 2014 Dreamhack Winter, then it might be a different story.
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On May 10 2015 03:13 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:12 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I'm worried for PartinG if he plays TRUE. I don't think he's playing at his normal level in this tournament. TRUE is a fairly tricky player who may have something up his sleeve.
Still will probably be 3-1, but he seems a bit off today he has roughly 2 hours to sober up
what if he plays better drunk? Some people are known to produce their best while being intoxicated. Just look at Hunter S Thompson
edit: just to add, he did blow his brains out, so that might have not been the best example.
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On May 10 2015 03:14 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:13 Noonius wrote:On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ? TL already threw him a bone by "expanding" the list. But I'm sure he prefers 10k and French girls over being on a list somewhere they should just update the list every six months but it's too much to ask for considering people still place nostalgia way too highly over longevity and relevancy.
Seeing that Wax is there, I finally get it. Stuchiu has expanded the list to 19 only to prevent him being beaten up bi the Big Boy.
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On May 10 2015 03:15 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:14 Roadog wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Yorkie wrote:On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ? DH isn't super high on his criteria so it may not change his ranking that much. Might barely put him in though since everyone is so close. I don't think he'll be in though since he didn't run into any of the other current top players here Well it said "He'd probably just need to take a Top 4 at a Tier 2 event to break into the top 15" in the "Bonus Edition" and this is a Tier 2 event, so he's already in now by this standard This DH isn't a tier 2 event with Stuchiu's criteria...
Yeah, very few S-level Koreans
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On May 10 2015 03:15 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:13 sharkie wrote:On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ? With this DH lineup, this DH will be give the lowest tier for sure. Parting has to show what he can do in Korea not in this weak DH Correct. Now say, if this DH was as stacked as 2013 Dreamhack Bucharest was, or 2014 Dreamhack Winter, then it might be a different story.
PartinG's playing drunk today --> the lineup of opponents is stronger than it looks.
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On May 10 2015 03:15 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:13 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I'm worried for PartinG if he plays TRUE. I don't think he's playing at his normal level in this tournament. TRUE is a fairly tricky player who may have something up his sleeve.
Still will probably be 3-1, but he seems a bit off today he has roughly 2 hours to sober up what if he plays better drunk? Some people are known to produce their best while being intoxicated. Just look at Hunter S Thompson
Tarson drunken terran
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On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.
let's talk about what they did in the last patch.
warp-in time: reverted
mineral amounts: closer to HotS
ravager: turned useless
Atm, they are doing NOTHING of the kind of changing protoss to be less forcefield/warpgate reliant, but gimp everything that could hurt forcefield/warpgate play.
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On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.
Stating the truth
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On May 10 2015 03:15 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ): You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling. Have a guess
Having a guess in a 50:50 situation is not a very attractive prospect.
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On May 10 2015 03:16 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. let's talk about what they did in the last patch. warp-in time: reverted mineral amounts: closer to HotS ravager: turned useless Atm, they are doing NOTHING of the kind of changing protoss to be less forcefield/warpgate reliant, but gimp everything that could hurt forcefield/warpgate play.
But FFs are so much fun ! And create such awesome counterplay !
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On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet. Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one. They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth
Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s
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On May 10 2015 03:17 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:15 OtherWorld wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ): You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling. Have a guess Having a guess in a 50:50 situation is not a very attractive prospect.
huehuehue
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On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling.
Join the Cult of the Roach, or fall into the nothingness that awaits inferior creatures
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This will be my last post on protoss. I hate warp gates (srsly what were they smoking when they thought of warp gates?) and I hate FFs.
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On May 10 2015 03:15 Fuell wrote:
55 pages to get to same amount as yesterday, keep posting nerds
why so rustled boy? 
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