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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 09 2015 18:14 GMT
#1901
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 09 2015 18:15 GMT
#1902
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They'll scale back all the changes and basically it'll all be the same. Blizzard is completely convinced that Protoss's design is amazing and they won't change a damn thing
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18774 Posts
May 09 2015 18:15 GMT
#1903
On May 10 2015 03:14 Roadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:12 Yorkie wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ?

DH isn't super high on his criteria so it may not change his ranking that much. Might barely put him in though since everyone is so close. I don't think he'll be in though since he didn't run into any of the other current top players here

Well it said "He'd probably just need to take a Top 4 at a Tier 2 event to break into the top 15" in the "Bonus Edition" and this is a Tier 2 event, so he's already in now by this standard


This DH isn't a tier 2 event with Stuchiu's criteria...
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 09 2015 18:15 GMT
#1904
On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ):


You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling.

Have a guess
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Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
May 09 2015 18:15 GMT
#1905
55 pages to get to same amount as yesterday, keep posting nerds
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
May 09 2015 18:15 GMT
#1906
On May 10 2015 03:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ?


With this DH lineup, this DH will be give the lowest tier for sure.
Parting has to show what he can do in Korea not in this weak DH


Correct. Now say, if this DH was as stacked as 2013 Dreamhack Bucharest was, or 2014 Dreamhack Winter, then it might be a different story.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 18:16:52
May 09 2015 18:15 GMT
#1907
On May 10 2015 03:13 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:12 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I'm worried for PartinG if he plays TRUE. I don't think he's playing at his normal level in this tournament. TRUE is a fairly tricky player who may have something up his sleeve.

Still will probably be 3-1, but he seems a bit off today

he has roughly 2 hours to sober up


what if he plays better drunk? Some people are known to produce their best while being intoxicated. Just look at Hunter S Thompson

edit: just to add, he did blow his brains out, so that might have not been the best example.
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 09 2015 18:15 GMT
#1908
On May 10 2015 03:14 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:13 Noonius wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ?


TL already threw him a bone by "expanding" the list. But I'm sure he prefers 10k and French girls over being on a list somewhere


they should just update the list every six months but it's too much to ask for considering people still place nostalgia way too highly over longevity and relevancy.


Seeing that Wax is there, I finally get it. Stuchiu has expanded the list to 19 only to prevent him being beaten up bi the Big Boy.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 09 2015 18:16 GMT
#1909
On May 10 2015 03:15 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:14 Roadog wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Yorkie wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ?

DH isn't super high on his criteria so it may not change his ranking that much. Might barely put him in though since everyone is so close. I don't think he'll be in though since he didn't run into any of the other current top players here

Well it said "He'd probably just need to take a Top 4 at a Tier 2 event to break into the top 15" in the "Bonus Edition" and this is a Tier 2 event, so he's already in now by this standard


This DH isn't a tier 2 event with Stuchiu's criteria...

Yeah, very few S-level Koreans
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 09 2015 18:16 GMT
#1910
On May 10 2015 03:15 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:13 sharkie wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:11 Serimek wrote:
Which rank in GOAT for PartinG if he wins it all ? Still not in top 15 Stichiu ?


With this DH lineup, this DH will be give the lowest tier for sure.
Parting has to show what he can do in Korea not in this weak DH


Correct. Now say, if this DH was as stacked as 2013 Dreamhack Bucharest was, or 2014 Dreamhack Winter, then it might be a different story.

PartinG's playing drunk today --> the lineup of opponents is stronger than it looks.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MorDka
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland543 Posts
May 09 2015 18:16 GMT
#1911
On May 10 2015 03:15 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:13 Ej_ wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I'm worried for PartinG if he plays TRUE. I don't think he's playing at his normal level in this tournament. TRUE is a fairly tricky player who may have something up his sleeve.

Still will probably be 3-1, but he seems a bit off today

he has roughly 2 hours to sober up


what if he plays better drunk? Some people are known to produce their best while being intoxicated. Just look at Hunter S Thompson

Tarson drunken terran
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 09 2015 18:16 GMT
#1912
On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.

let's talk about what they did in the last patch.
warp-in time: reverted
mineral amounts: closer to HotS
ravager: turned useless

Atm, they are doing NOTHING of the kind of changing protoss to be less forcefield/warpgate reliant, but gimp everything that could hurt forcefield/warpgate play.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 09 2015 18:17 GMT
#1913
On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.

Stating the truth
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 09 2015 18:17 GMT
#1914
On May 10 2015 03:15 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ):


You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling.

Have a guess


Having a guess in a 50:50 situation is not a very attractive prospect.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 09 2015 18:17 GMT
#1915
On May 10 2015 03:16 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.

let's talk about what they did in the last patch.
warp-in time: reverted
mineral amounts: closer to HotS
ravager: turned useless

Atm, they are doing NOTHING of the kind of changing protoss to be less forcefield/warpgate reliant, but gimp everything that could hurt forcefield/warpgate play.

But FFs are so much fun ! And create such awesome counterplay !
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 09 2015 18:17 GMT
#1916
On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 Destructicon wrote:
On May 10 2015 02:50 Yorkie wrote:
Forcefield balance discussion has been raging for years. The popular consensus is that they're very strong but the way protoss is built forcefields are absolutely essential to their survival in the early game. If forcefields were to be redesigned they would also have to overhaul many other aspects of protoss, which simply won't happen


I hate to derail this LR thread further, but by the looks of Legacy, they might have to redesign toss anyway. Ravager and later Warp Gate have really brought to light the ugly aspects of the race's design and its clear that moving forward it needs tons of work. There is hope yet.

Now back on topic, that series was epic, especially game 4, hope we see another close one.

They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same.


Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic.

Stating the truth

Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 09 2015 18:17 GMT
#1917
On May 10 2015 03:17 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:15 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:
On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ):


You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling.

Have a guess


Having a guess in a 50:50 situation is not a very attractive prospect.

huehuehue
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 09 2015 18:18 GMT
#1918
On May 10 2015 03:14 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 03:12 OtherWorld wrote:
The ZvZ dream is daed ):


You seriously won't stop with this, will you? I still don't understand whether you honestly like ZvZ or are just trolling.

Join the Cult of the Roach, or fall into the nothingness that awaits inferior creatures
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
May 09 2015 18:18 GMT
#1919
This will be my last post on protoss. I hate warp gates (srsly what were they smoking when they thought of warp gates?) and I hate FFs.
rip passion
neteX
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden285 Posts
May 09 2015 18:18 GMT
#1920
On May 10 2015 03:15 Fuell wrote:
55 pages to get to same amount as yesterday, keep posting nerds


why so rustled boy?
http://www.twitter.com/neteXLoL flw pls
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