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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 00:57:23
April 02 2015 18:45 GMT
#661
On April 03 2015 03:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 03:28 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:27 Elentos wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:18 Elentos wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:07 Alucen-Will- wrote:
The thing that really got me about the SPOTV casters was in game 1 where they starting talking about how he should stream on Afreeca and go back to broodwar....That was so ignorant it made me mute the audio (something I NEVER do, particularly with casters like Moonglade+Wolf)

Not only is it ignorant, but there is almost a desire to dislike him, which I find unprofessional

That really annoyed me too, they seem to take a bit too much liking to talking smack about him. Then again, Team Salmon sometimes has weird moments. E.g. casting SPL, they commonly just forget things that happened like 2 weeks before. For example when Flash played Dear, they felt the need to point out that they feel Dear's form isn't consistent, citing his ace match against Trap as an example. Not only was that the only game Dear lost in round 2 until he played Flash, he completely shut down and crushed Maru on the same day he lost to Trap. So really, they have their moments, but I still like them all.


I feel exactly the same too, and watch essentially every professional match played these days.

With all my criticism ITT, I still think they are good guys and good casters. Albeit need to spend more time studying and perhaps think a bit more at times.

But this is true of almost all humans in the world, so Its not a huge deal. No one is perfect, I am no different, and neither are they.

This is getting a bit weird man. Are we the same person in a different part of the world or something? <.<


LOL. It's a bit scary,

who are your favorite players?

Top 3 of each race (no particular order)
Terran: Flash (should be obvious, no?), Cure, Polt
Protoss: Zest, Trap, PartinG
Zerg: Rogue, Life, soO


Looks like we are quite a like:

Terran: Flash(my posts, his reputation preceed him)/Cure(manliest player since reach)/Polt(on the fly intelligence)/Bomber(his mafia-esque approach)/MMA(for his incredibly refined style and determination/MVP (the greatest sc2 player ever, hard to quantify in this small of a space.
Protoss: Parting(for his unbashed lack of pretension, creativity, and humanistic qualities.) (Zest, there are qualities to him which Iike-introducing cheesy components into macro builds, his sinister approach to long series ex. herO vs Zest Kespa cup finals)
Zerg: Rogue (the meta king, sexy boy)

Probably in order:

1. Flash
2. Parting
3. Cure
4. MVP
5. Everyone else

I respect to a lesser degree, the generic products of Kespa: ex.



InnoVation, Rain, Soulkey, etc.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-02 18:52:31
April 02 2015 18:50 GMT
#662
On April 03 2015 03:45 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 03:31 Elentos wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:28 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:27 Elentos wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:18 Elentos wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:07 Alucen-Will- wrote:
The thing that really got me about the SPOTV casters was in game 1 where they starting talking about how he should stream on Afreeca and go back to broodwar....That was so ignorant it made me mute the audio (something I NEVER do, particularly with casters like Moonglade+Wolf)

Not only is it ignorant, but there is almost a desire to dislike him, which I find unprofessional

That really annoyed me too, they seem to take a bit too much liking to talking smack about him. Then again, Team Salmon sometimes has weird moments. E.g. casting SPL, they commonly just forget things that happened like 2 weeks before. For example when Flash played Dear, they felt the need to point out that they feel Dear's form isn't consistent, citing his ace match against Trap as an example. Not only was that the only game Dear lost in round 2 until he played Flash, he completely shut down and crushed Maru on the same day he lost to Trap. So really, they have their moments, but I still like them all.


I feel exactly the same too, and watch essentially every professional match played these days.

With all my criticism ITT, I still think they are good guys and good casters. Albeit need to spend more time studying and perhaps think a bit more at times.

But this is true of almost all humans in the world, so Its not a huge deal. No one is perfect, I am no different, and neither are they.

This is getting a bit weird man. Are we the same person in a different part of the world or something? <.<


LOL. It's a bit scary,

who are your favorite players?

Top 3 of each race (no particular order)
Terran: Flash (should be obvious, no?), Cure, Polt
Protoss: Zest, Trap, PartinG
Zerg: Rogue, Life, soO


Looks like we are quite a like:

Terran: Flash(my posts, his reputation preceed him)/Cure(manliest player since reach)/Polt(on the fly intelligence)/Bomber(his mafia-esque approach)/MMA(for his incredibly refined style and determination/MVP (the greatest sc2 player ever, hard to quantify in this small of a space.
Protoss: Parting(one of my favorite players ever) (Zest, there are qualities to him which Iike-introducing cheesy components into macro builds, his sinister approach to long series ex. herO vs Zest Kespa cup finals)
Zerg: Rogue (the meta king, sexy boy)

I respect to a lesser degree, the generic products of Kespa: ex.

InnoVation, Rain, Soulkey, etc.

That is actually really similar <.<

The bold part is hilarious but entirely adequate. Also, Polt kinda stole my heart last year when Protoss was dominating everything and he just made it look like it's balanced <.<.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-02 19:08:35
April 02 2015 18:55 GMT
#663
On April 03 2015 03:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 03:45 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:31 Elentos wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:28 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:27 Elentos wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:18 Elentos wrote:
On April 03 2015 03:07 Alucen-Will- wrote:
The thing that really got me about the SPOTV casters was in game 1 where they starting talking about how he should stream on Afreeca and go back to broodwar....That was so ignorant it made me mute the audio (something I NEVER do, particularly with casters like Moonglade+Wolf)

Not only is it ignorant, but there is almost a desire to dislike him, which I find unprofessional

That really annoyed me too, they seem to take a bit too much liking to talking smack about him. Then again, Team Salmon sometimes has weird moments. E.g. casting SPL, they commonly just forget things that happened like 2 weeks before. For example when Flash played Dear, they felt the need to point out that they feel Dear's form isn't consistent, citing his ace match against Trap as an example. Not only was that the only game Dear lost in round 2 until he played Flash, he completely shut down and crushed Maru on the same day he lost to Trap. So really, they have their moments, but I still like them all.


I feel exactly the same too, and watch essentially every professional match played these days.

With all my criticism ITT, I still think they are good guys and good casters. Albeit need to spend more time studying and perhaps think a bit more at times.

But this is true of almost all humans in the world, so Its not a huge deal. No one is perfect, I am no different, and neither are they.

This is getting a bit weird man. Are we the same person in a different part of the world or something? <.<


LOL. It's a bit scary,

who are your favorite players?

Top 3 of each race (no particular order)
Terran: Flash (should be obvious, no?), Cure, Polt
Protoss: Zest, Trap, PartinG
Zerg: Rogue, Life, soO


Looks like we are quite a like:

Terran: Flash(my posts, his reputation preceed him)/Cure(manliest player since reach)/Polt(on the fly intelligence)/Bomber(his mafia-esque approach)/MMA(for his incredibly refined style and determination/MVP (the greatest sc2 player ever, hard to quantify in this small of a space.
Protoss: Parting(one of my favorite players ever) (Zest, there are qualities to him which Iike-introducing cheesy components into macro builds, his sinister approach to long series ex. herO vs Zest Kespa cup finals)
Zerg: Rogue (the meta king, sexy boy)

I respect to a lesser degree, the generic products of Kespa: ex.

InnoVation, Rain, Soulkey, etc.

That is actually really similar <.<

The bold part is hilarious but entirely adequate. Also, Polt kinda stole my heart last year when Protoss was dominating everything and he just made it look like it's balanced <.<.


His on the fly decision making is excellent. I decided to watch his WCS group for whatever reason a month ago, and wow did he impress me.

On Catallena Protoss took the third base away from his main, Polt decided to move out with his bio army toward the third base and load up a drop. Then he immediately unloaded all 5 medivacs and scanned, killed the observer, sent a couple scouting marines forward where the protoss ball was waiting, loaded up all his medivacs and boosted right into the main. GG

No wonder he went to Seoul National University.

sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18648 Posts
April 02 2015 20:08 GMT
#664
stuchiu is like the first person on TL who understands Flash's playstyle wow :0

All those Flash fanboys who say he owns in lategame dont understand that he gets his strength from greedy openings. It was the same in BW. If Flash played safe standard he was beaten by top tier zergs. He just kept gambling a lot with 14ccs
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 02 2015 21:00 GMT
#665
On April 03 2015 05:08 sharkie wrote:
stuchiu is like the first person on TL who understands Flash's playstyle wow :0

All those Flash fanboys who say he owns in lategame dont understand that he gets his strength from greedy openings. It was the same in BW. If Flash played safe standard he was beaten by top tier zergs. He just kept gambling a lot with 14ccs


Really, is this how he has 3 OSLs and 3MSLs under his belt, by gambling with 14CCs? I guess I will find out eventually, as I do plan on watching all his available BW VODs to understand the truth about his BW status. It is absolutely not enough to just "assume" from hearsay.

In the meanwhile if he can make "14CC into defense" work against early aggression of all sorts, he should go for it. It would shift the whole meta game. Absolutely. Do it Flash. For science. Today wasn't bad already, you often went early 3CCs and still managed to fend off the all-ins, just kinda messed it up elsewhere, so it was not a philosophical mistake. Don't worry.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18648 Posts
April 02 2015 22:00 GMT
#666
On April 03 2015 06:00 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 05:08 sharkie wrote:
stuchiu is like the first person on TL who understands Flash's playstyle wow :0

All those Flash fanboys who say he owns in lategame dont understand that he gets his strength from greedy openings. It was the same in BW. If Flash played safe standard he was beaten by top tier zergs. He just kept gambling a lot with 14ccs


Really, is this how he has 3 OSLs and 3MSLs under his belt, by gambling with 14CCs? I guess I will find out eventually, as I do plan on watching all his available BW VODs to understand the truth about his BW status. It is absolutely not enough to just "assume" from hearsay.

In the meanwhile if he can make "14CC into defense" work against early aggression of all sorts, he should go for it. It would shift the whole meta game. Absolutely. Do it Flash. For science. Today wasn't bad already, you often went early 3CCs and still managed to fend off the all-ins, just kinda messed it up elsewhere, so it was not a philosophical mistake. Don't worry.


Leenock messed up the game. Any top zerg would have easily 3-0ed Flash with Leenock's builds today.
Predictable 3cc does not work. Life has made a career by laughing at terrans who try heh.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 03 2015 00:47 GMT
#667
What are the chances of flash race switching with the new expansion? I don't think he's really getting Terran. Same with jd as zerg...
rip passion
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 03 2015 01:03 GMT
#668
On April 03 2015 09:47 Deathstar wrote:
What are the chances of flash race switching with the new expansion? I don't think he's really getting Terran. Same with jd as zerg...


Doubt it. Flash seems too established a player and too stubborn to race switch.

I really think Protoss would fit him far better though.
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 03 2015 01:13 GMT
#669
On April 03 2015 10:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 09:47 Deathstar wrote:
What are the chances of flash race switching with the new expansion? I don't think he's really getting Terran. Same with jd as zerg...


Doubt it. Flash seems too established a player and too stubborn to race switch.

I really think Protoss would fit him far better though.


Yep, I've always felt that way. LOTV will likely change a lot about the current race's anyway. With the revival (hopefully of Mech), Terran may fit Flash a bit better in LOTV.

Personally I think he's fine, just needs to focus a bit more on microing his units and being a tad bit safer.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
April 03 2015 03:39 GMT
#670
AHh!!! The way Flash lose is so heartbreaking!!!!!!!!!

Because he threw it away ~~ The Pain I am feeling right now...
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