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On March 15 2015 07:21 Phredxor wrote:I don't know why people can't just band together and enjoy TvT and PvP and hate on the trash that is ZvZ instead. I don't know why people can't just band together and enjoy TvT and PvP and ZvZ
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On March 15 2015 07:21 Phredxor wrote:I don't know why people can't just band together and enjoy TvT and PvP and hate on the trash that is ZvZ instead. My only issue with ZvZ is that Zerg units look gross when they die and ZvZ features twice the regular amount of Zerg <.<. Other than that, I actually have no match I dislike to watch, although current meta TvT can get annoying at times.
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On March 15 2015 07:19 DarkLordOlli wrote: What I like best about PvP is that it's like a magic hat. You can reach in there and get literally anything. Sometimes you draw a wonderful set of flowers, sometimes there's a rat in it that bites your fingers off. Well i think that quote would work for starcraft as a whole
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On March 15 2015 07:22 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:17 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On March 15 2015 07:16 Rollora wrote:On March 15 2015 07:13 Deathstar wrote:On March 15 2015 07:12 THM wrote: Great tournament but I'm so disappointed that there's gonna be PvP finals tomorrow. I had invited friends over to watch but I don't think they'll want to come now ;( PvP is highly action packed with lots of micro, like dota. Stuff will be happening everywhere. Def bring your friends over! Are you making fun of something? "lots of micro" :D Ever played a High-Level Tvs anything? You wouldn't call "blink somewhere" lots of micro. You are one of the most delusional people I've ever come across... Ok. Then tell me what is there so much to micro. I mean: when I get terran (I play random mostly)-> When I encounter a protoss army, I move the marauders in Front, I marines in the back, medivacs on a different control group or they won't heal, split the army and spread it, stim parts of the army, select another control group (ghosts) and try to emp, focus down colossi with vikings while avoiding stalkers. During fights I have around 250 APM, which isn't great. But its a hell lot of micro. Tell me what Protoss has so much to micro here? Select clossi and move it back? Or in a stalker vs stalker battle select the weakened stalker and blink it back. You must be kidding when you say that is a lot of micro.
lol i play zerg so I think I'm uber leet micro when I run one zergling in to trigger a mine.
protoss and terran micro always blows me away/blows me
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On March 15 2015 07:20 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:19 DarkLordOlli wrote: What I like best about PvP is that it's like a magic hat. You can reach in there and get literally anything. Sometimes you draw a wonderful set of flowers, sometimes there's a rat in it that bites your fingers off. or maybe it's like magic because you're trying to get us to buy into an illusion This was a damn good comeback. Both clever and in context. 10/10.
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On March 15 2015 07:21 KelsierSC wrote: I know it's sort of "weird" but I think high level PvP offers the most potential for a total fucking stomp. Like one guy just get's in his opponents head and just totally obliterates him and makes him look silly.
Like the GSL final between Seed and MC. That whole series was totally surreal as Seed just got inside MC's brain and started dicking around with the wires.
I don't think that was about PvP though. That was something that Seed did to people. You can see it throughout his entire GSL run. Symbol, Byun, etc. all could have beaten him. But he got in their head somehow and messed with their wires.
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On March 15 2015 07:12 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:07 Deathstar wrote:On March 15 2015 07:06 Lexender wrote:On March 15 2015 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:On March 15 2015 07:02 Rollora wrote:On March 15 2015 06:56 Solar424 wrote:Remember when everyone hated Terran TvT was never that boring. Yeah there were LOTS AND LOTS of TvTs but they were often exciting and back and forth. I also remember Taeja vs Flash as one of the best TvTs 2-3 years back, Flash still being new but it was a great Macro TvT on... Whirlwhind IIRC watching tanks siege, unsiege then siege again is boring as fuck. tvt used to be terrible I understand the hate for mirrors, but you have to agree siege+unsiege its somewhat better than colossus vs colossus PvP is most skilled, entertaining, and fun match up Yeah, A-Move vs A-Move and the only advantage is the better army composition. Not even storms or something is casted, although they would deal a lot of damage to that (opponents) ball.
This is however not true, PvP is a cloak and dagger game. I have seen some amazing PvPs but if it goes beyond midgame you kind of start reading random shit on the net instead. Even though I am disappointed by these results, we may get a fairly entertaining finals. Not ever finals can be or should be a ZvT.
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On March 15 2015 07:21 Phredxor wrote:I don't know why people can't just band together and enjoy TvT and PvP and hate on the trash that is ZvZ instead. I like ZvZ more than TvT :X
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On March 15 2015 07:20 Ammanas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:17 Penev wrote:On March 15 2015 07:16 Ammanas wrote:On March 15 2015 07:13 johnbongham wrote: Are people seriously trying to argue that two players vying for position with meticulous micro is more boring than watching two deathballs slam into each other after after a complete turtlefest? If it even makes it that far. Now I am c onfused, which of these is PvP and which is TvT? (but yeah, current TvT is much much better then TvT in WoL). Really, with the doom drops bs? :-S still better then lines of tanks sitting at one spot constantly scanning all over the opponents army and once someone moves couple of centimetres, it's over. Actually, roach vs roach is better then old TvT for me. I just hate that matchup from WoL, so boring and unnecessarily long.~~ WoL was a pain for a lot of ppl, I understand that :D Like: PvP. Either someone cheesed or it whent on till everyone was maxed out having 20 colossi and made the a-move. So skil, much wow! LAZRS!!
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On March 15 2015 07:22 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:21 Phredxor wrote:I don't know why people can't just band together and enjoy TvT and PvP and hate on the trash that is ZvZ instead. I don't know why people can't just band together and enjoy TvT and PvP and ZvZ
That could also work
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On March 15 2015 07:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:21 KelsierSC wrote: I know it's sort of "weird" but I think high level PvP offers the most potential for a total fucking stomp. Like one guy just get's in his opponents head and just totally obliterates him and makes him look silly.
Like the GSL final between Seed and MC. That whole series was totally surreal as Seed just got inside MC's brain and started dicking around with the wires. I don't think that was about PvP though. That was something that Seed did to people. You can see it throughout his entire GSL run. Symbol, Byun, etc. all could have beaten him. But he got in their head somehow and messed with their wires. It's what Protosses can do in general over the course of a series/tournament. It's how Trap got the better of Flash, for example. On Expedition Lost, he got him so afraid of an early all-in that Flash basically got himself behind.
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On March 15 2015 07:24 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:20 Shellshock wrote:On March 15 2015 07:19 DarkLordOlli wrote: What I like best about PvP is that it's like a magic hat. You can reach in there and get literally anything. Sometimes you draw a wonderful set of flowers, sometimes there's a rat in it that bites your fingers off. or maybe it's like magic because you're trying to get us to buy into an illusion This was a damn good comeback. Both clever and in context. 10/10. Yeah shellshock is really witty
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On March 15 2015 07:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:24 royalroadweed wrote:On March 15 2015 07:20 Shellshock wrote:On March 15 2015 07:19 DarkLordOlli wrote: What I like best about PvP is that it's like a magic hat. You can reach in there and get literally anything. Sometimes you draw a wonderful set of flowers, sometimes there's a rat in it that bites your fingers off. or maybe it's like magic because you're trying to get us to buy into an illusion This was a damn good comeback. Both clever and in context. 10/10. Yeah shellshock is really witty
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On March 15 2015 07:22 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:17 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On March 15 2015 07:16 Rollora wrote:On March 15 2015 07:13 Deathstar wrote:On March 15 2015 07:12 THM wrote: Great tournament but I'm so disappointed that there's gonna be PvP finals tomorrow. I had invited friends over to watch but I don't think they'll want to come now ;( PvP is highly action packed with lots of micro, like dota. Stuff will be happening everywhere. Def bring your friends over! Are you making fun of something? "lots of micro" :D Ever played a High-Level Tvs anything? You wouldn't call "blink somewhere" lots of micro. You are one of the most delusional people I've ever come across... Ok. Then tell me what is there so much to micro. I mean: when I get terran (I play random mostly)-> When I encounter a protoss army, I move the marauders in Front, I marines in the back, medivacs on a different control group or they won't heal, split the army and spread it, stim parts of the army, select another control group (ghosts) and try to emp, focus down colossi with vikings while avoiding stalkers. During fights I have around 250 APM, which isn't great. But its a hell lot of micro. Tell me what Protoss has so much to micro here? Select clossi and move it back? Or in a stalker vs stalker battle select the weakened stalker and blink it back. You must be kidding when you say that is a lot of micro. bring zealots to front, dodge emps and snipes, focus fire vikings with stalkers, pull weaken colossus back, storm....
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On March 15 2015 07:19 DarkLordOlli wrote: What I like best about PvP is that it's like a magic hat. You can reach in there and get literally anything. Sometimes you draw a wonderful set of flowers, sometimes there's a rat in it that bites your fingers off.
And if you're herO, you ignroe the 2 gates building next to the magic hat and die wondering where those zealots came from.
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On March 15 2015 07:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:22 Rollora wrote:On March 15 2015 07:17 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On March 15 2015 07:16 Rollora wrote:On March 15 2015 07:13 Deathstar wrote:On March 15 2015 07:12 THM wrote: Great tournament but I'm so disappointed that there's gonna be PvP finals tomorrow. I had invited friends over to watch but I don't think they'll want to come now ;( PvP is highly action packed with lots of micro, like dota. Stuff will be happening everywhere. Def bring your friends over! Are you making fun of something? "lots of micro" :D Ever played a High-Level Tvs anything? You wouldn't call "blink somewhere" lots of micro. You are one of the most delusional people I've ever come across... Ok. Then tell me what is there so much to micro. I mean: when I get terran (I play random mostly)-> When I encounter a protoss army, I move the marauders in Front, I marines in the back, medivacs on a different control group or they won't heal, split the army and spread it, stim parts of the army, select another control group (ghosts) and try to emp, focus down colossi with vikings while avoiding stalkers. During fights I have around 250 APM, which isn't great. But its a hell lot of micro. Tell me what Protoss has so much to micro here? Select clossi and move it back? Or in a stalker vs stalker battle select the weakened stalker and blink it back. You must be kidding when you say that is a lot of micro. bring zealots to front, dodge emps and snipes, focus fire vikings with stalkers, pull weaken colossus back, storm.... Don't bother anymore, he won't listen.
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On March 15 2015 07:26 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 15 2015 07:24 royalroadweed wrote:On March 15 2015 07:20 Shellshock wrote:On March 15 2015 07:19 DarkLordOlli wrote: What I like best about PvP is that it's like a magic hat. You can reach in there and get literally anything. Sometimes you draw a wonderful set of flowers, sometimes there's a rat in it that bites your fingers off. or maybe it's like magic because you're trying to get us to buy into an illusion This was a damn good comeback. Both clever and in context. 10/10. Yeah shellshock is really witty haha no <3 See, that on the other hand wasn't witty at all </3
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On March 15 2015 07:23 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 07:22 Rollora wrote:On March 15 2015 07:17 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On March 15 2015 07:16 Rollora wrote:On March 15 2015 07:13 Deathstar wrote:On March 15 2015 07:12 THM wrote: Great tournament but I'm so disappointed that there's gonna be PvP finals tomorrow. I had invited friends over to watch but I don't think they'll want to come now ;( PvP is highly action packed with lots of micro, like dota. Stuff will be happening everywhere. Def bring your friends over! Are you making fun of something? "lots of micro" :D Ever played a High-Level Tvs anything? You wouldn't call "blink somewhere" lots of micro. You are one of the most delusional people I've ever come across... Ok. Then tell me what is there so much to micro. I mean: when I get terran (I play random mostly)-> When I encounter a protoss army, I move the marauders in Front, I marines in the back, medivacs on a different control group or they won't heal, split the army and spread it, stim parts of the army, select another control group (ghosts) and try to emp, focus down colossi with vikings while avoiding stalkers. During fights I have around 250 APM, which isn't great. But its a hell lot of micro. Tell me what Protoss has so much to micro here? Select clossi and move it back? Or in a stalker vs stalker battle select the weakened stalker and blink it back. You must be kidding when you say that is a lot of micro. lol i play zerg so I think I'm uber leet micro when I run one zergling in to trigger a mine. protoss and terran micro always blows me away/blows me I second that. Your micro is over leet. You are better then 1337. Because most Zergs I face on ladder don't even do that. Or protoss that don't cast halluzinations or make an observer and say WM is imba (although I rarely make them, cause I hate the randomness about them).
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On March 15 2015 07:27 KelsierSC wrote: no ban plox just don't go full swag_bro and it's ok
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