Sometimes I think the whole reason Blizzard still puts some effort into SC2 is because they are just a front put up by a gigantic food company who gathers all the salt from every tournament to use in their products.

Solar424

United States4001 Posts

March 14 2015 21:25 GMT

#4385

How is this about balance? Terran that has never accomplished anything in SC2 vs GSL champion. I wonder who will win?

Penev

28536 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4386

On March 15 2015 06:24 Makro wrote:
i honestly think this tournament is going to reboost zest confidence for the next gsl/nssl qualifiers

Could be, he's not playing that well though..

[PkF] Wire

France24239 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4387

Please Bbyong we don't need a PvP finals...

alp

Germany80 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4388

such a bad series -.-

Shellshock

United States97277 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4389

On March 15 2015 06:25 Noonius wrote:
so pvp finals again? it'll be over in less than an hour tmrw unless they extend the breaks between games

Probably request mid game pauses for additional commercials

Cricketer12

United States14003 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4390

i dont love maynarde

(well at least his maru bias...)

KingofdaHipHop

United States25602 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4391

This is the second time I find myself blaming Hydra for this shit. One map away from eliminating Zest, reminds me a lot of like vs Classic.

Heartland

Sweden24604 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4392

On March 15 2015 06:25 Lexender wrote:

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Sometimes I think the whole reason Blizzard still puts some effort into SC2 is because they are just front put up by a gigantic food company who gathers all the salt from every tournament to use in their products.

hahaha

Rain.100

Germany946 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4393

On March 15 2015 06:24 Makro wrote:
i honestly think this tournament is going to reboost zest confidence for the next gsl/nssl qualifiers

u really think a tournament win is going to boost his confidence? who would have thought

leny100

20 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4394

On March 15 2015 06:23 Lorning wrote:

Poll: Recommend Bbyong vs Zest Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (20)

32%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (12)

19%

★★★- Good game (6)

10%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)

2%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (24)

38%

63 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs Zest Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

So salty LOL.

hborrgg

United States888 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4395

Bad map bad player bad race fixed match imba dead game

User was temp banned for this post.

Boucot

France15997 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4396

On March 15 2015 06:25 Noonius wrote:
so pvp finals again? it'll be over in less than an hour tmrw unless they extend the breaks between games

30 real minutes last year if you only count the games.

Rollora

2450 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4397

On March 15 2015 06:17 Nebuchad wrote:

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On March 15 2015 06:16 Rollora wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:28 Rollora wrote:
lelelelel.
If you don't want to actually engage the enemy create a wall that prevents his army to do anything.

Forcefields must be the most hated spell in the game :D

I seriously doubt the designer who made it was sane, as it can't be a good Idea to make a game that is about war and strategy and then invent a spell that makes you win without war and strategy (well if you count blocking units it could be called a valuable strategy).
I really don't get so many design decisions about protoss. The forcefileds, the colossus (as an easy to use, High-damage-output AOE unit that needs no skill, I always thought such units shouldn't exist) and the warpins. And the many allins and bullshit tactics possible around this.

They always make me hate the protoss race so much, I don't watch the games with toss anymore.
While I understand it takes skill to use all these abilities to the max, Blizzard knows from the very early days of sc2 that there is a lot of hate about all that and so many people are frustrated because of these abilities.

I don't understand why blizzard doesn't want to change that 2/3 of the players are frustrated with the game. Of course every race is a little bit frustrated about 1-2 things about the other race (Fungals or Widow Mines) but with protoss there are SO MANY things to get frustrated about. I really don't understand why that can't be changed. Propably because Protoss would be less a technical race and more a mechanical, but this would make playing and watching it more fun. Like: having more powerful gateway units but not being required to have so many powerful spells.

And yeah, I guess I am salty, since this guy killed 2 of my favorite terrans with bullshit and stuff that make me mad about toss (because they seem to be easier to execute than to defend against) and now also one of the best zergs.
Allins shouldn't be THAT strong, srsly. And from a failed allin in the beginning you shouldn't be able to come back like that.

And yeah, I do understand that Trap played phenomenal, he wouldn't be able to beat Flash, Fantasy and Dark if he didn't.
Still, I hate these abilities, I wished Trap showed some phenomenal macro games without all that stuff.

You, and it seems the entirety of reddit, are so fucking mad right now. I get it though, FFs are dumb and have been dumb since day 1

I stand by what I said: Trap is extremely skillful, it takes a lot of skill to use the abilities he has.
But I'd rather not have them in the game.
They are simply stupid, as you say. A cast should do damage or whatever. It should NEVER be able to prevent an opponent from being able to do something. It should never prevent skill to succeed.
And that is what Forcefields and some other abilities do and that is why I am mad about the game ever since the first day.
Ever since I first played SC2, and tried to outmultitask my opponents, outmacro and outmicro him (I started as Terran, went on from then) and then the opponent pushes a single button and has the right unit composition, moves his army ball over my bunkers or over my well positioned army but gets feedbacks/Storms off before I get my EMPs off... whatever.... just frustration. Even though it might be balanced in Korean GM, this is being more and more imbalanced the more you go down the ladder.
And then we might have a game that is balanced on pro level (which is 0.01 % of the players) but the other 99.9 Percent are unhappy.

Does it ever shock you that you're criticizing the capacity to not engage armies in a game that has medivac drops and muta base trades?

I am not sure what the one thing has to do with the other?
Drops were always in the game, even BW.
All 3 races can drop with very cheap unit.
Terran has the Boost and Heal
Zerg has free dropships since they are already there
Protoss has the Warp prism which is extremely fast and can warp in unlimited ammount of units.
Dropping is something I didn't critizize I think. Besides I hate blocking ramps with forcefields and something like that.
Mutas? Whats the problem with mutas. Especially for toss: Just warp in units.
Its the other races that need to have things in position and await mutas.

letian

Germany4221 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4398

I feel entitled. Zest simply outclassed Bbyong :D

The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

March 14 2015 21:26 GMT

#4399

wow people are really salty here^^
GOGO ZEST!!!