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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 03:17:48
February 28 2015 03:17 GMT
#621
Now we get to see if Hydra is taking Jaedong's spot of being super disappointing in WCS in America
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 28 2015 03:18 GMT
#622
Wut. How did MorroW beat Hydra?!? Too bad he'll lose due to the rematch curse.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2015 03:19 GMT
#623
On February 28 2015 12:13 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:04 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
LOLOL Showtime: "tvp is hard because of the mines, you can lose a lot of probes in a second" Guess how terran feels vs toss... with orcale, storm, etc.
I stopped playing this game, i should stop watching it as well.


but it's true though. all you have to do is plonk a mine down and unless there are obs everywhere you will lose probes, and they do so much damage they can kill 7-8 probes easy.

and it's kinda hard to determine if/when they're coming since terran openings can look the same - you scout reactor factory and think mines, position to defend against drops, and then die to a hellbat push (for example).

oracles require micro, especially if there's a turret.

in fact pretty much every form of harass for every race requires effort and micro to execute.

the widow mine is basically a swarm host with no range. and splash damage. and extra damage vs protoss. you just burrow and wait for the goodies - except in TvZ where they are used much more 'appropriately' as part of the army and tactically to zone out areas/create space etc. which I like.


Well, honestly it's hard to complain about a unit doing too much damage to your worker line just because you have no detection when you're Protoss. I love to make people with no detection suffer, and it doesn't require a lot of skill .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
February 28 2015 03:19 GMT
#624
I got bored and fell asleep anything interesting happen?
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 03:20:39
February 28 2015 03:20 GMT
#625
On February 28 2015 12:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Wut. How did MorroW beat Hydra?!? Too bad he'll lose due to the rematch curse.

One game Hydra botched his wall so Morrow got 13 drone kills with hellions after holding a roach push that cost him 17 SCVs. 3rd game was just a straight up macro game where Hydra didn't keep up.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
February 28 2015 03:21 GMT
#626
On February 28 2015 12:19 KtJ wrote:
I got bored and fell asleep anything interesting happen?


well depends. are we talking about a 2hr nap, or a 20 year cryotube sleep
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
February 28 2015 03:21 GMT
#627
On February 28 2015 12:21 xtorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:19 KtJ wrote:
I got bored and fell asleep anything interesting happen?


well depends. are we talking about a 2hr nap, or a 20 year cryotube sleep

2 hour nap.
Did swarm hosts happen?
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 03:23:00
February 28 2015 03:22 GMT
#628
On February 28 2015 12:21 KtJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:21 xtorn wrote:
On February 28 2015 12:19 KtJ wrote:
I got bored and fell asleep anything interesting happen?


well depends. are we talking about a 2hr nap, or a 20 year cryotube sleep

2 hour nap.
Did swarm hosts happen?

Nope. Well I guess iA made one swarm host, but that died horribly.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 28 2015 03:22 GMT
#629
On February 28 2015 12:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:13 Larkin wrote:
On February 28 2015 12:04 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
LOLOL Showtime: "tvp is hard because of the mines, you can lose a lot of probes in a second" Guess how terran feels vs toss... with orcale, storm, etc.
I stopped playing this game, i should stop watching it as well.


but it's true though. all you have to do is plonk a mine down and unless there are obs everywhere you will lose probes, and they do so much damage they can kill 7-8 probes easy.

and it's kinda hard to determine if/when they're coming since terran openings can look the same - you scout reactor factory and think mines, position to defend against drops, and then die to a hellbat push (for example).

oracles require micro, especially if there's a turret.

in fact pretty much every form of harass for every race requires effort and micro to execute.

the widow mine is basically a swarm host with no range. and splash damage. and extra damage vs protoss. you just burrow and wait for the goodies - except in TvZ where they are used much more 'appropriately' as part of the army and tactically to zone out areas/create space etc. which I like.


Well, honestly it's hard to complain about a unit doing too much damage to your worker line just because you have no detection when you're Protoss. I love to make people with no detection suffer, and it doesn't require a lot of skill .


1 base widow mine can come out before obs if you open anything other than gate-robo

it basically pigeonholes protoss into going straight for detection, either in the form of cannons or obs - the former takes minerals away from other uses, the latter takes gas and time that we would spend producing colossus.

besides, as Protoss I complain about DTs all the time
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 28 2015 03:24 GMT
#630
On February 28 2015 12:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:13 Larkin wrote:
On February 28 2015 12:04 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
LOLOL Showtime: "tvp is hard because of the mines, you can lose a lot of probes in a second" Guess how terran feels vs toss... with orcale, storm, etc.
I stopped playing this game, i should stop watching it as well.


but it's true though. all you have to do is plonk a mine down and unless there are obs everywhere you will lose probes, and they do so much damage they can kill 7-8 probes easy.

and it's kinda hard to determine if/when they're coming since terran openings can look the same - you scout reactor factory and think mines, position to defend against drops, and then die to a hellbat push (for example).

oracles require micro, especially if there's a turret.

in fact pretty much every form of harass for every race requires effort and micro to execute.

the widow mine is basically a swarm host with no range. and splash damage. and extra damage vs protoss. you just burrow and wait for the goodies - except in TvZ where they are used much more 'appropriately' as part of the army and tactically to zone out areas/create space etc. which I like.


Well, honestly it's hard to complain about a unit doing too much damage to your worker line just because you have no detection when you're Protoss. I love to make people with no detection suffer, and it doesn't require a lot of skill .


Inca is a god and I will not have you sully his name.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
February 28 2015 03:24 GMT
#631
K Hydra, 2 quick ones pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 03:26:09
February 28 2015 03:25 GMT
#632
On February 28 2015 12:24 Penev wrote:
K Hydra, 2 quick ones pls

I second this, make it quick, I don't want my head to get intimate with the desk.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2015 03:25 GMT
#633
On February 28 2015 12:22 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On February 28 2015 12:13 Larkin wrote:
On February 28 2015 12:04 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
LOLOL Showtime: "tvp is hard because of the mines, you can lose a lot of probes in a second" Guess how terran feels vs toss... with orcale, storm, etc.
I stopped playing this game, i should stop watching it as well.


but it's true though. all you have to do is plonk a mine down and unless there are obs everywhere you will lose probes, and they do so much damage they can kill 7-8 probes easy.

and it's kinda hard to determine if/when they're coming since terran openings can look the same - you scout reactor factory and think mines, position to defend against drops, and then die to a hellbat push (for example).

oracles require micro, especially if there's a turret.

in fact pretty much every form of harass for every race requires effort and micro to execute.

the widow mine is basically a swarm host with no range. and splash damage. and extra damage vs protoss. you just burrow and wait for the goodies - except in TvZ where they are used much more 'appropriately' as part of the army and tactically to zone out areas/create space etc. which I like.


Well, honestly it's hard to complain about a unit doing too much damage to your worker line just because you have no detection when you're Protoss. I love to make people with no detection suffer, and it doesn't require a lot of skill .


1 base widow mine can come out before obs if you open anything other than gate-robo

it basically pigeonholes protoss into going straight for detection, either in the form of cannons or obs - the former takes minerals away from other uses, the latter takes gas and time that we would spend producing colossus.

besides, as Protoss I complain about DTs all the time


True, and believe me, I hate Widow Mines when they're used against me (and also in how they're harmful to my preferred pro-Templar, anti-Colossus styles), but when I'm watching pro-games, they are quite entertaining. The disadvantage that Widow Mines have over Dark Templar is that you can see and try to stop them on the way in, even if you have no detection. 'Course, that's easier said than done with turbovacs .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
February 28 2015 03:26 GMT
#634
Morrows 5 rax Reaper build
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 28 2015 03:26 GMT
#635
On February 28 2015 12:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:24 Penev wrote:
K Hydra, 2 quick ones pls

I second this, make it quicky, I don't want my head to get intimate with the desk.


Would you settle for Hydra losing quickly?
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
February 28 2015 03:26 GMT
#636
Hydra expecting the reaper already
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2015 03:26 GMT
#637
On February 28 2015 12:24 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On February 28 2015 12:13 Larkin wrote:
On February 28 2015 12:04 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
LOLOL Showtime: "tvp is hard because of the mines, you can lose a lot of probes in a second" Guess how terran feels vs toss... with orcale, storm, etc.
I stopped playing this game, i should stop watching it as well.


but it's true though. all you have to do is plonk a mine down and unless there are obs everywhere you will lose probes, and they do so much damage they can kill 7-8 probes easy.

and it's kinda hard to determine if/when they're coming since terran openings can look the same - you scout reactor factory and think mines, position to defend against drops, and then die to a hellbat push (for example).

oracles require micro, especially if there's a turret.

in fact pretty much every form of harass for every race requires effort and micro to execute.

the widow mine is basically a swarm host with no range. and splash damage. and extra damage vs protoss. you just burrow and wait for the goodies - except in TvZ where they are used much more 'appropriately' as part of the army and tactically to zone out areas/create space etc. which I like.


Well, honestly it's hard to complain about a unit doing too much damage to your worker line just because you have no detection when you're Protoss. I love to make people with no detection suffer, and it doesn't require a lot of skill .


Inca is a god and I will not have you sully his name.


I feel that he's a whimsical god more than an assiduous one though .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
February 28 2015 03:27 GMT
#638
On February 28 2015 12:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:25 Elentos wrote:
On February 28 2015 12:24 Penev wrote:
K Hydra, 2 quick ones pls

I second this, make it quicky, I don't want my head to get intimate with the desk.


Would you settle for Hydra losing quickly?

If Morrow deserves the win... sure.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
February 28 2015 03:28 GMT
#639
Didn't Morrow win IEM using reapers? Is he out of practice or smth.?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
February 28 2015 03:29 GMT
#640
roaches are good. gogo!
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
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