EPTOn February 21 2015 03:53 Shellshock wrote:
there are no skill matchups. this whole game is a coinflip it's so random
there are no skill matchups. this whole game is a coinflip it's so random
there you go:
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
there you go: www.liquidhearth.com | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
what do you mean Hearthstone is not a real esport? | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7799 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:54 Big J wrote: there are 2-3instances of it being held of a hatch first. Mainly because the aggressor fucked up and the defender microed godlike. But that's true for every BO-win-interaction. I've seen lots of pro players hold 10p bane with hatch first consistently. It's just on maps like that with pocket bases that 10p bane is a LOT stronger. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
Starcraft is officially part of the FGC. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:54 Big J wrote: there are 2-3instances of it being held of a hatch first. Mainly because the aggressor fucked up and the defender microed godlike. But that's true for every BO-win-interaction. for 10 pool bane, there's no real difference whether it's pool first or hatch first TargA lost cause he went 15 16g 16 (or something ridiculous like that) | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:52 [PkF] Wire wrote: Seemed as close as a BO win as it gets though. What do you mean ? I am not arguing that there actually can't be BO wins, but the notion that there isn't skill involved is nonsense. You don't have to play as greedy as possible, sure, it might be better if it works out in the end, but there is always a safer build which doesn't lose you automatically the game. You also can hold 10 pool bane with hatch first, it was shown before. | ||
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:55 Ej_ wrote: what do you mean Hearthstone is not a real esport? They just had a recent scandal where some girl catfished her way into a pro-team. Pretty funny really. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:55 The_Red_Viper wrote: I am not arguing that there actually can't be BO wins, but the notion that there isn't skill involved is nonsense. You don't have to play as greedy as possible, sure, it might be better if it works out in the end, but there is always a safer build which doesn't lose you automatically the game. You also can hold 10 pool bane with hatch first, it was shown before. This is an LR thread. We're not supposed to take things seriously here. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:54 Big J wrote: there are 2-3instances of it being held of a hatch first. Mainly because the aggressor fucked up and the defender microed godlike. But that's true for every BO-win-interaction. Leenock holds 10pool bane 10/10 times with his 15 hatch build. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:54 KingofdaHipHop wrote: at least he didn't run his banes into his hatch against hatch first like I like how we are slowly going back to calling koreans foreign :D:D | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:55 Alchemik wrote: for 10 pool bane, there's no real difference whether it's pool first or hatch first TargA lost cause he went 15 16g 16 (or something ridiculous like that) is there really? 15pool can get faster queen/spines or I guess even cancel the nat later | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:55 The_Red_Viper wrote: I am not arguing that there actually can't be BO wins, but the notion that there isn't skill involved is nonsense. You don't have to play as greedy as possible, sure, it might be better if it works out in the end, but there is always a safer build which doesn't lose you automatically the game. You also can hold 10 pool bane with hatch first, it was shown before. Yeah seems I missed Targa getting gas and a drone before he even makes the pool. Of course he didn't have to do that, he was way too greedy. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:56 dazed25 wrote: They just had a recent scandal where some girl catfished her way into a pro-team. Pretty funny really. what does that mean, catfished? persuaded them with free catfish? | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:55 RPR_Tempest wrote: I've seen lots of pro players hold 10p bane with hatch first consistently. It's just on maps like that with pocket bases that 10p bane is a LOT stronger. I think vaani is one of the best maps to hold it on due to maplength and because if you scrap up some semi-defense, you still get to hold your natural, while if you take damage on other maps, the speedling follow up kills the nat and then you are just further behind. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:56 dazed25 wrote: They just had a recent scandal where some girl catfished her way into a pro-team. Pretty funny really. We had that in 2013. IESF, SC2 Women's championships, national qualifier result was overturned because the woman wasn't the actual one playing. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:57 stuchiu wrote: Leenock holds 10pool bane 10/10 times with his 15 hatch build. I think Targa was actually doing that build but yeah in-base nat is a bitch | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote: what does that mean, catfished? persuaded them with free catfish? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=catfish | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:58 Ej_ wrote: I think Targa was actually doing that build but yeah in-base nat is a bitch Don't really get it, why does in-base nat help the attacker ? | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On February 21 2015 03:57 Ej_ wrote: is there really? 15pool can get faster queen/spines or I guess even cancel the nat later well, okay, let me rephrase that - it's easier to hold with pool first, of course, but it's not like hatch first is in any way weak against 10 pool bane, it's just that pool first is strong against that | ||
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