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Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
February 16 2015 17:53 GMT
#21
it means they will get boring as fast as regular SH
cakemonster
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada35 Posts
February 16 2015 17:55 GMT
#22
This is more exciting than normal SH play against mech. Both sides aren't just having a stalemate fight. Of course with mass Ravens that might change.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 17:57:45
February 16 2015 17:56 GMT
#23
On February 17 2015 02:53 Heinsenzerg wrote:
it means they will get boring as fast as regular SH

That is just your opinion, some people say that mech is boring as fuck and just as much as Swarm Hosts, some people enjoy playing mech.
I definitely see the difference between this and any other Mech vs Swarm Hosts game, and I liked this one a lot more.

On February 17 2015 02:55 cakemonster wrote:
This is more exciting than normal SH play against mech. Both sides aren't just having a stalemate fight. Of course with mass Ravens that might change.

Well, Ravens are changed too for the same reason. I doubt that people will mass them that much anymore.
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Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
February 16 2015 17:58 GMT
#24
On February 17 2015 02:56 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 02:53 Heinsenzerg wrote:
it means they will get boring as fast as regular SH

That is just your opinion, some people say that mech is boring as fuck and just as much as Swarm Hosts, some people enjoy playing mech.
I definitely see the difference between this and any other Mech vs Swarm Hosts game, and I liked this one a lot more.
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 02:55 cakemonster wrote:
This is more exciting than normal SH play against mech. Both sides aren't just having a stalemate fight. Of course with mass Ravens that might change.

Well, Ravens are changed too for the same reason. I doubt that people will mass them that much anymore.


yes of course, if obvious opinions have to be stated every time, then you win

IMO---blah blah
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 16 2015 18:00 GMT
#25
On February 17 2015 02:55 cakemonster wrote:
This is more exciting than normal SH play against mech. Both sides aren't just having a stalemate fight. Of course with mass Ravens that might change.

Keep in mind the style and its counterstyle aren't figured out at all. It's like the first swarm host games in early 2013 which were also very exciting. When players like TLO did 2base Swarm Host siege builds and Protoss would try to make their way through the locusts with Colossus/Storm and Zergs hadn't quite figured out to build 50spores with the SHs every game and tried to do BL/Swarm Host attacks.
Like any fundamental change to any unit would look good right now because it would shake things up and there would be exciting action while players are trying to figure out the changes.

It could work out, but from that Good vs Snute game if you look at what Goody's combat management against the SHs was, it was just running away if possible. So the optimal way to fight still seems to be not to fight which is the whole stupidity with SH play all along.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 18:05:10
February 16 2015 18:04 GMT
#26
xtorn, how are you so great and rich and I don't know for sure but I assume sexy?
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 16 2015 18:05 GMT
#27
On February 17 2015 03:00 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 02:55 cakemonster wrote:
This is more exciting than normal SH play against mech. Both sides aren't just having a stalemate fight. Of course with mass Ravens that might change.

Keep in mind the style and its counterstyle aren't figured out at all. It's like the first swarm host games in early 2013 which were also very exciting. When players like TLO did 2base Swarm Host siege builds and Protoss would try to make their way through the locusts with Colossus/Storm and Zergs hadn't quite figured out to build 50spores with the SHs every game and tried to do BL/Swarm Host attacks.
Like any fundamental change to any unit would look good right now because it would shake things up and there would be exciting action while players are trying to figure out the changes.

It could work out, but from that Good vs Snute game if you look at what Goody's combat management against the SHs was, it was just running away if possible. So the optimal way to fight still seems to be not to fight which is the whole stupidity with SH play all along.

At some points, yes, but on the other hand I saw a lot of wasted opportunities from Goody where he could've literally just a-clicked and destroy half of Snute's army but he would just Siege up in front of Snute's base and wait for new wave of Locusts for some unknown reason(probably because he thought that new Locust wave is coming soon).
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 18:16:40
February 16 2015 18:16 GMT
#28
The SH range indicators when moving make it look like it's snowing
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Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
February 16 2015 18:21 GMT
#29
come on rotti

it´s easy
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
February 16 2015 18:23 GMT
#30
Silly how fast swarmhosts move.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 16 2015 18:25 GMT
#31
These SHs are so quick O_o
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Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 16 2015 18:25 GMT
#32
They are pretty damn fast..
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
February 16 2015 18:25 GMT
#33
Almost saw a SH surround :D
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
February 16 2015 18:25 GMT
#34
lol, so broken
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 16 2015 18:26 GMT
#35
I'll never understand the need some streamers have to show Twitch chat on screen >.>
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 16 2015 18:28 GMT
#36
these new swarmhosts are weird
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 16 2015 18:28 GMT
#37
On February 17 2015 03:26 OtherWorld wrote:
I'll never understand the need some streamers have to show Twitch chat on screen >.>

So single monitor plebs can fullscreen the stream and also experience twitch chat at the same time.

Also, lol swarm hosts are so good. this can't make it into the full game.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 16 2015 18:29 GMT
#38
On February 17 2015 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 03:26 OtherWorld wrote:
I'll never understand the need some streamers have to show Twitch chat on screen >.>

So single monitor plebs can fullscreen the stream and also experience twitch chat at the same time.

Also, lol swarm hosts are so good. this can't make it into the full game.

I fullscreen the stream so I don't have to experience the twitch chat
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 16 2015 18:29 GMT
#39
On February 17 2015 03:29 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On February 17 2015 03:26 OtherWorld wrote:
I'll never understand the need some streamers have to show Twitch chat on screen >.>

So single monitor plebs can fullscreen the stream and also experience twitch chat at the same time.

Also, lol swarm hosts are so good. this can't make it into the full game.

I fullscreen the stream so I don't have to experience the twitch chat

Same d:
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 16 2015 18:30 GMT
#40
On February 17 2015 03:29 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On February 17 2015 03:26 OtherWorld wrote:
I'll never understand the need some streamers have to show Twitch chat on screen >.>

So single monitor plebs can fullscreen the stream and also experience twitch chat at the same time.

Also, lol swarm hosts are so good. this can't make it into the full game.

I fullscreen the stream so I don't have to experience the twitch chat

Yeah, pretty much, lol.
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