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On February 17 2015 05:30 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 05:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 17 2015 05:26 stuchiu wrote:On February 17 2015 05:26 stuchiu wrote:
In WoL you beat mech with infestor bl Back when infestors had godlike fungals and godlike infested terrans. what if for lotv they just bring back infestor bl fans would complain about patch zergs but give Stephano a pass cause I dunno why, but they would.
stephano popularized multiple styles before bl infestor became the thing, mass upgraded speedlings without bane into ultra, roach max, mass infestor, etc, and made players like squirtle, alicia, parting, hero, etc. his bitch. but hey you're staff so you're allowed to be ignorant and disrespectful right?
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On February 20 2015 03:44 Poopfeast 024 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 05:30 stuchiu wrote:On February 17 2015 05:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 17 2015 05:26 stuchiu wrote:On February 17 2015 05:26 stuchiu wrote:
In WoL you beat mech with infestor bl Back when infestors had godlike fungals and godlike infested terrans. what if for lotv they just bring back infestor bl fans would complain about patch zergs but give Stephano a pass cause I dunno why, but they would. stephano popularized multiple styles before bl infestor became the thing, mass upgraded speedlings without bane into ultra, roach max, mass infestor, etc, and made players like squirtle, alicia, parting, hero, etc. his bitch. but hey you're staff so you're allowed to be ignorant and disrespectful right?
Very shockingly that too many ppl forget how best players played 
bl/inf/c era became a thing in ~april 2012. Stephano dominated from sept 2011 until summer 2012. He won IPL3 and ESWC both in Oct 2011.
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On February 20 2015 04:27 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 03:44 Poopfeast 024 wrote:On February 17 2015 05:30 stuchiu wrote:On February 17 2015 05:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 17 2015 05:26 stuchiu wrote:On February 17 2015 05:26 stuchiu wrote:
In WoL you beat mech with infestor bl Back when infestors had godlike fungals and godlike infested terrans. what if for lotv they just bring back infestor bl fans would complain about patch zergs but give Stephano a pass cause I dunno why, but they would. stephano popularized multiple styles before bl infestor became the thing, mass upgraded speedlings without bane into ultra, roach max, mass infestor, etc, and made players like squirtle, alicia, parting, hero, etc. his bitch. but hey you're staff so you're allowed to be ignorant and disrespectful right? Very shockingly that too many ppl forget how best players played bl/inf/c era became a thing in ~april 2012. Stephano dominated from sept 2011 until summer 2012. He won IPL3 and ESWC both in Oct 2011.
Additionally since he always had kinda bad ZvZ he never benefitted from BL/festor as much as his fellow Zergs.
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On February 19 2015 01:26 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2015 21:40 teslar wrote:On February 18 2015 06:53 phodacbiet wrote:On February 17 2015 05:30 stuchiu wrote:On February 17 2015 05:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 17 2015 05:26 stuchiu wrote:On February 17 2015 05:26 stuchiu wrote:
In WoL you beat mech with infestor bl Back when infestors had godlike fungals and godlike infested terrans. what if for lotv they just bring back infestor bl fans would complain about patch zergs but give Stephano a pass cause I dunno why, but they would. Because Stephano dominated before and after patch. He was like the only Zerg doing well when every other zerg sucked. He also was the only foreigner who dominated vs Koreans, albeit it was mostly in EU/NA tourneys. It's almost like zergs really had a choice back when BL infestor was their main choice *gasp*. Why not just go tier 2 all game long lol ? Cost efficiency that's why. Stephano is a baller who just played how he had too. I honestly don't understand the petty arrogance of anti zerg people. What other style was really considered stable/viable at the time? MutaLing into Ultra worked perfectly fine, it was just nice that Ling Infestor Broodlord gave you a massively imbalanced unit composition as early as 14 minutes in. Also, Stephano figured out some sick strats, but he mostly played very abusive of poor balance and he has been overhyped for ages and ages and ages as he was the only foreigner to do well. Because of that, people think of him as far better than he actually was in hindsight. That has nothing to do with petty arrogance of anti zerg people/
If he was "the only foreigner doing well" at a time in which Thorzain, Naniwa and HuK were winning Premier Tournaments against Polt, Nestea and MC I cannot imagine a context in which overhyped makes sense. Sure he was superhyped and I also thought he was overhyped back in mid-end 2011 just because he was #1 on Korea and I thought "guys, that's only ladder. Koreans are going to figure out his ling/infestor/ultra style and then it's back to muta/ling/bling". I guess the joke's on me, since Koreans figured out Muta/ling/bling and Stephano's double upgrade ling/infestor/ultra became the most popular style till mid 2012 "straight to BL/Infestor" became a thing.
Hell, even today we still play double upgrade melee which all roots back to Stephano (who adapted the style from DIMAGA, but Stephano really polished and finalized it).
Also all the strategical inventions pushed by him aside (double upgrade with infestors and without banelings/mutas, roach max, roach/hydra vs Terran in WoL and HotS, Swarm Host ZvZ until it was nerfed...) what was also impressive was that - according to other foreign players - he was mechanically up there with the top Koreans.
I guess the people who said he was the best player in the world were really overhyping him, but even top Korean players considered him a top3 zerg among the likes of GSL winner DongRaeGu and Nestea (don't know which Korean they asked for who was the best Zerg in the world, but I think that was his answer early 2012).
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Naniwa didn't win vs any of those, he won an mlg without koreans, a tiny online tournament and some swedish only.
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Anywhere we can see the VODs?
Sorry if it's been answered deep in the thread, didn't wanna look through all the spoilers.
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On February 20 2015 14:38 JAG.war wrote:
Anywhere we can see the VODs?
Sorry if it's been answered deep in the thread, didn't wanna look through all the spoilers.
Rotti streamed this, so I guess you should try to see if there are VODs on his twitch channel. I doubt that they have been uploaded to Youtube.
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