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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one  Nope, it's Bogus
Who?
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On December 17 2014 23:17 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:17 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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Why? He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one Nope, it's Bogus watch out for Gumigod No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season Would you say MKP is top 5? I think you would
Not even top10 as far as I'm concerned, but since he's qualified in both leagues he has the opportunity to make a triumphant ascent!
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Belgica34432 Posts
On December 17 2014 23:21 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:17 Lorning wrote:On December 17 2014 23:17 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
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He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one Nope, it's Bogus watch out for Gumigod No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season Would you say MKP is top 5? I think you would Not even top10 as far as I'm concerned, but since he's qualified in both leagues he has the opportunity to make a triumphant ascent!
Not even after his hot6 cup run?
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France9034 Posts
On December 17 2014 23:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that "He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation. No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost. On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes? How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene. But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time. How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season. I think we can agree on that. And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument. You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it. Let the results tell the story instead
Yes. Tajea got to GSL semifinals. That counts too. Oh and let's not forget that winning a tournament isn't the only way to be considered "good": soO.
This is starting (well, for a few pages now) to be so fucking ridiculous.
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On December 17 2014 23:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that "He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation. No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost. On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes? How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene. But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time. How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season. I think we can agree on that. And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument. You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it. Let the results tell the story instead
You must hate on a lot of players if your only standard is "He never won a GSL." He made it to the ro8 and semis multiple times, which is more than 90% of Koreans. Then he won a boatload of events around the world which is more than any player of any nationality can say. He's a top 3 terran and top 5 player of all time. Losing this bo5 doesn't change that
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United States23455 Posts
On December 17 2014 23:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that "He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation. No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost. On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes? How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene. But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time. How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season. I think we can agree on that. And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument. You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it. Let the results tell the story instead
If you conclude that everyone who hasn't won a GSL or WCS season is le sux at preparation than you have to assume that most players suck at preparation, including Terminator.
Also Polt is known to be a guy who rarely varies his builds and people have said is "easy to prepare for" but he won WCS America twice!
Mostly because he's a genius
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On December 17 2014 23:21 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one Nope, it's Bogus Who?
Don't worry, the day Life renames to ZEALOUSLYSUCKS I'll keep using his old ID and you'll bless me for it. Also LosirA recently saw the light so I have still hope Bogus repents
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On December 17 2014 23:23 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that "He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation. No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost. On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes? How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene. But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time. How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season. I think we can agree on that. And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument. You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it. Let the results tell the story instead Yes. Tajea got to GSL semifinals. That counts too. Oh and let's not forget that winning a tournament isn't the only way to be considered "good": soO.
Again, i consider Taeja good, i just don't(ty yorkie  ) consider him "the best in the world" like a lot of people constantly do "cause he won over 9000 premier tournaments".
That's pretty much the whole point for me. I still think Taeja is a top 5 terran easily
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United States23455 Posts
On December 17 2014 23:21 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:17 Lorning wrote:On December 17 2014 23:17 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
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He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one Nope, it's Bogus watch out for Gumigod No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season Would you say MKP is top 5? I think you would Not even top10 as far as I'm concerned, but since he's qualified in both leagues he has the opportunity to make a triumphant ascent!
I'd like to see your top 10!
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On December 17 2014 23:22 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:21 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:17 Lorning wrote:On December 17 2014 23:17 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
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There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one Nope, it's Bogus watch out for Gumigod No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season Would you say MKP is top 5? I think you would Not even top10 as far as I'm concerned, but since he's qualified in both leagues he has the opportunity to make a triumphant ascent! Not even after his hot6 cup run?
Reference my earlier post. MKP didn't play in hot6 cup. MVPMK did
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On December 17 2014 23:23 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:21 Zealously wrote:On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one Nope, it's Bogus Who? Don't worry, the day Life renames to ZEALOUSLYSUCKS I'll keep using his old ID and you'll bless me for it. Also LosirA recently saw the light so I have still hope Bogus repents
do you call Swagger Killer though?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 17 2014 23:23 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:21 Zealously wrote:On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one Nope, it's Bogus Who? Don't worry, the day Life renames to ZEALOUSLYSUCKS I'll keep using his old ID and you'll bless me for it. Also LosirA recently saw the light so I have still hope Bogus repents
But my Lactose INntoLerance joke won't make sense anymore
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On December 17 2014 23:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:23 Ragnarork wrote:On December 17 2014 23:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that "He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation. No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost. On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes? How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene. But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time. How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season. I think we can agree on that. And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument. You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it. Let the results tell the story instead Yes. Tajea got to GSL semifinals. That counts too. Oh and let's not forget that winning a tournament isn't the only way to be considered "good": soO. Again, i consider Taeja good, i just consider him "the best in the world" like a lot of people constantly do "cause he won over 9000 premier tournaments". That's pretty much the whole point for me. I still think Taeja is a top 5 terran easily
You forgot a don't in there somewhere unless you were practicing arguing your opposition for a debate club assignment this entire time ^^
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On December 17 2014 23:25 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:23 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:21 Zealously wrote:On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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Why? He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one Nope, it's Bogus Who? Don't worry, the day Life renames to ZEALOUSLYSUCKS I'll keep using his old ID and you'll bless me for it. Also LosirA recently saw the light so I have still hope Bogus repents do you call Swagger Killer though?
BabyByeBye obv
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On December 17 2014 23:26 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:23 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:21 Zealously wrote:On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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Why? He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning. Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo Top2 without much question Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one Nope, it's Bogus Who? Don't worry, the day Life renames to ZEALOUSLYSUCKS I'll keep using his old ID and you'll bless me for it. Also LosirA recently saw the light so I have still hope Bogus repents But my Lactose INntoLerance joke won't make sense anymore
soon 18k man!
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On December 17 2014 23:23 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that "He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation. No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost. On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes? How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene. But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time. How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season. I think we can agree on that. And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument. You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it. Let the results tell the story instead You must hate on a lot of players if your only standard is "He never won a GSL." He made it to the ro8 and semis multiple times, which is more than 90% of Koreans. Then he won a boatload of events around the world which is more than any player of any nationality can say. He's a top 3 terran and top 5 player of all time. Losing this bo5 doesn't change that
No, cause most of these players aren't considered the savior of race X.
Taeja kinda is though, which makes me not liking him for a very weird reason (that part might be irrational, i would agree )
I don't think anything i said is wrong though
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On December 17 2014 23:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:23 Ragnarork wrote:On December 17 2014 23:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that "He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation. No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost. On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes? How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene. But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time. How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season. I think we can agree on that. And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument. You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it. Let the results tell the story instead Yes. Tajea got to GSL semifinals. That counts too. Oh and let's not forget that winning a tournament isn't the only way to be considered "good": soO. Again, i consider Taeja good, i just consider him "the best in the world" like a lot of people constantly do "cause he won over 9000 premier tournaments". That's pretty much the whole point for me. I still think Taeja is a top 5 terran easily
And yet you're dismissing the fact that it's not about KR league vs Foreign league if he lost today.
It's not.
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On December 17 2014 23:26 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:23 Ragnarork wrote:On December 17 2014 23:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that "He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation. No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost. On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes? How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene. But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time. How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season. I think we can agree on that. And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument. You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it. Let the results tell the story instead Yes. Tajea got to GSL semifinals. That counts too. Oh and let's not forget that winning a tournament isn't the only way to be considered "good": soO. Again, i consider Taeja good, i just consider him "the best in the world" like a lot of people constantly do "cause he won over 9000 premier tournaments". That's pretty much the whole point for me. I still think Taeja is a top 5 terran easily You forgot a don't in there somewhere unless you were practicing arguing your opposition for a debate club assignment this entire time ^^
Haha yeah
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On December 17 2014 23:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 23:23 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that "He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation. No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost. On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts Why? Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best. Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant. He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual. Simple as that And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes? How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene. But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time. How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season. I think we can agree on that. And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument. You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it. Let the results tell the story instead You must hate on a lot of players if your only standard is "He never won a GSL." He made it to the ro8 and semis multiple times, which is more than 90% of Koreans. Then he won a boatload of events around the world which is more than any player of any nationality can say. He's a top 3 terran and top 5 player of all time. Losing this bo5 doesn't change that No, cause most of these players aren't considered the savior of race X. Taeja kinda is though, which makes me not liking him for a very weird reason (that part might be irrational, i would agree ) I don't think anything i said is wrong though
Well Bomber is the savior of terran and he's never won a GSL which is the only reason I'm arguing this point tbh
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