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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 17 2014 14:13 GMT
#981
On December 17 2014 23:12 Makro wrote:
i know it's a bit off topic but anyone with a deep knowledge about kespa teams know how captain are selected ? i just noticed right now that zest is the captain of KT rolster, i thought it would be flash


They go for the guy with the most impressive body.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 17 2014 14:14 GMT
#982
On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question

Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one

Nope, it's Bogus

watch out for Gumigod
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 17 2014 14:15 GMT
#983
On December 17 2014 23:13 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:12 Makro wrote:
i know it's a bit off topic but anyone with a deep knowledge about kespa teams know how captain are selected ? i just noticed right now that zest is the captain of KT rolster, i thought it would be flash


They go for the guy with the most impressive body.


Well uh, not to be mean, but, Curious for Startale? :D
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
December 17 2014 14:15 GMT
#984
On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that

And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion

This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes?


How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene.

But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
December 17 2014 14:15 GMT
#985
On December 17 2014 23:12 Makro wrote:
i know it's a bit off topic but anyone with a deep knowledge about kespa teams know how captain are selected ? i just noticed right now that zest is the captain of KT rolster, i thought it would be flash


Zest is captain since forever, lol.
I don't even recall, was Flash captain at all at some point in his career.

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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 17 2014 14:15 GMT
#986
On December 17 2014 23:15 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:13 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Makro wrote:
i know it's a bit off topic but anyone with a deep knowledge about kespa teams know how captain are selected ? i just noticed right now that zest is the captain of KT rolster, i thought it would be flash


They go for the guy with the most impressive body.


Well uh, not to be mean, but, Curious for Startale? :D



Who else? Life?

#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 17 2014 14:16 GMT
#987
On December 17 2014 23:12 Makro wrote:
i know it's a bit off topic but anyone with a deep knowledge about kespa teams know how captain are selected ? i just noticed right now that zest is the captain of KT rolster, i thought it would be flash

I don't think people who aren't on those teams really have deep knowledge of how they select it. Obviously it doesn't necessarily go to the best player or even the longest tenured player. I guess it's just an in house decision based on some factors we don't know
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 17 2014 14:16 GMT
#988
On December 17 2014 23:15 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:15 Ragnarork wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:13 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Makro wrote:
i know it's a bit off topic but anyone with a deep knowledge about kespa teams know how captain are selected ? i just noticed right now that zest is the captain of KT rolster, i thought it would be flash


They go for the guy with the most impressive body.


Well uh, not to be mean, but, Curious for Startale? :D



Who else? Life?


aLive ez
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 17 2014 14:17 GMT
#989
On December 17 2014 23:15 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:15 Ragnarork wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:13 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Makro wrote:
i know it's a bit off topic but anyone with a deep knowledge about kespa teams know how captain are selected ? i just noticed right now that zest is the captain of KT rolster, i thought it would be flash


They go for the guy with the most impressive body.


Well uh, not to be mean, but, Curious for Startale? :D



Who else? Life?


He's still a minor, they're not allowed to judge him for his body
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 17 2014 14:17 GMT
#990
On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question

Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one

Nope, it's Bogus

watch out for Gumigod

No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 17 2014 14:17 GMT
#991
On December 17 2014 23:17 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question

Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one

Nope, it's Bogus

watch out for Gumigod

No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season

Would you say MKP is top 5? I think you would
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 17 2014 14:18 GMT
#992
On December 17 2014 23:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.


I don't think you understand your own argument. You're saying that Taeja lost because he sucks at preparation based leagues. I'm saying he lost simply because he didn't play his best, and that it had nothing to do with preparation.

And i don't think you understand that you use assumptions as facts. Even if your statement was true (he didn't play his best), it still isn't relevant. I am not even focusing solely on the "preparation aspect", i also consider the WAY harder competition as a whole.
In the end i don't care why player X won, results speak for themselves.

On December 17 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.

On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that

And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion

This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes?


Your hypocrisy and irrational trash talk of Taeja is pretty on topic actually ^^ just wanted you to see that what you're saying about Taeja sounds pretty funny coming from a fanboy of a guy who has never won a tournament final over a Korean and never went nearly as far in GSL as Taeja who you claim can't win at all in preparation based tournaments.


How is it hypocrisy? And how is it irrational? When i speak about Taeja it simply has nothing to do with Jaedong.
If you can't argue the actual point, just stop posting, srsly wtf man.
I don't think anybody claims that JD is the best in the world, the same can't be said about Taeja though, see the difference?
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 17 2014 14:18 GMT
#993
On December 17 2014 23:17 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:17 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
[quote]
Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question

Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one

Nope, it's Bogus

watch out for Gumigod

No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season

Would you say MKP is top 5? I think you would


Lorning top 5:

1. MKP
2. ByuN
3. Maru
4. Polt
5. BitByBiiiiiiiiiiiit!
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 17 2014 14:19 GMT
#994
On December 17 2014 23:17 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:17 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
[quote]
Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question

Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one

Nope, it's Bogus

watch out for Gumigod

No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season

Would you say MKP is top 5? I think you would

MKP doesn't exist, and when he did he was top 20 at best. MVPMK on the other hand really is a top 5 terran contender
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 17 2014 14:19 GMT
#995
On December 17 2014 23:15 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:15 Ragnarork wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:13 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Makro wrote:
i know it's a bit off topic but anyone with a deep knowledge about kespa teams know how captain are selected ? i just noticed right now that zest is the captain of KT rolster, i thought it would be flash


They go for the guy with the most impressive body.


Well uh, not to be mean, but, Curious for Startale? :D



Who else? Life?



Bomber god dammit!
LiquipediaWanderer
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 17 2014 14:19 GMT
#996
On December 17 2014 23:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.


I don't think you understand your own argument. You're saying that Taeja lost because he sucks at preparation based leagues. I'm saying he lost simply because he didn't play his best, and that it had nothing to do with preparation.

And i don't think you understand that you use assumptions as facts. Even if your statement was true (he didn't play his best), it still isn't relevant. I am not even focusing solely on the "preparation aspect", i also consider the WAY harder competition as a whole.
In the end i don't care why player X won, results speak for themselves.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.

On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that

And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion

This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes?


Your hypocrisy and irrational trash talk of Taeja is pretty on topic actually ^^ just wanted you to see that what you're saying about Taeja sounds pretty funny coming from a fanboy of a guy who has never won a tournament final over a Korean and never went nearly as far in GSL as Taeja who you claim can't win at all in preparation based tournaments.


How is it hypocrisy? And how is it irrational? When i speak about Taeja it simply has nothing to do with Jaedong.
If you can't argue the actual point, just stop posting, srsly wtf man.
I don't think anybody claims that JD is the best in the world, the same can't be said about Taeja though, see the difference?

Yeah JD sux teehee
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 17 2014 14:19 GMT
#997
On December 17 2014 22:54 lichter wrote:
time for some drama


thread became more stupid than salty, i'm very disappointed
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 17 2014 14:19 GMT
#998
On December 17 2014 23:18 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:17 Lorning wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:17 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
[quote]
He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question

Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one

Nope, it's Bogus

watch out for Gumigod

No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season

Would you say MKP is top 5? I think you would


Lorning top 5:

1. MKP
2. ByuN
3. Maru
4. Polt
5. BitByBiiiiiiiiiiiit!

BitbyBit far too low on your ranking
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 17 2014 14:20 GMT
#999
On December 17 2014 23:18 DJHelium wrote:
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On December 17 2014 23:17 Lorning wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:17 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:13 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
[quote]
He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question

Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one

Nope, it's Bogus

watch out for Gumigod

No chances of entering the Terran top5 before months. Plus his strong TvZ won't be of much use in the first season

Would you say MKP is top 5? I think you would


Lorning top 5:

1. MKP
2. ByuN
3. Maru
4. Polt
5. BitByBiiiiiiiiiiiit!


I think Lorning's top5 has a few extra " i " there.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 17 2014 14:20 GMT
#1000
On December 17 2014 23:15 Blargh wrote:
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On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.

On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that

And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion

This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes?


How can you say that "he didn't play his best is irrelevant"??? It's completely relevant. It's entirely correct, too. Taeja played rather poorly, but that does not mean he is incapable of beating players in a Korean tournament. You have so little actual data to back up the argument "as usual" too. There's a reason why Team Liquid picked Taeja up. It wasn't because he was dominating the foreign scene.

But this discussion over upsets and players not playing well and whatever is horrible. There's so little substance to each argument that it just becomes a waste of time.


How is there a lack of data to back up my claim? tajea never won a gsl or wcs season.
I think we can agree on that.
And no, to excuse the results with a phrase like "he didn't play at 100%) is a non argument.
You could always use it when your favorite players loses and nobody could even argue against it.
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