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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 17 2014 14:08 GMT
#961
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.

On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that

And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion

This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes?

IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 17 2014 14:08 GMT
#962
On December 17 2014 23:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 22:58 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:56 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:55 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:54 Starecat wrote:
Terrible day for esports, Kespa and fucking Protoss won...

Better players won except Rogue vs Soulkey.

hahahahahaha

how can you say that rofl?

3 > 0, therefore better player

He is implying Rogue was the worse player

Oh shit I misread that

Also, why would I be salty?


Was talking about the dude above who said Rogue wasn't the better player. But that conversation is a pile of misunderstandings it seems....
LiquipediaWanderer
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 14:11:32
December 17 2014 14:08 GMT
#963
On December 17 2014 23:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs

Qualifier are more like weekend tournaments
I mean i am not saying that Taeja is bad, but i would sigbet (if i could, haha) that Taeja won't win a single korean tournament next year (probably even that he won't get to a semi final)

And I'll counter sigbet that Jaedong won't show up to one. The only Korean tournaments are GSL and SSL anyway. And I really don't understand why weekend tournaments are scoffed at by the community. They're just as difficult to win as longer events, it just takes raw skill instead of planing and preparation. Like if Taeja won a weekend tourney in korea would people still belittle it?
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 17 2014 14:08 GMT
#964
On December 17 2014 23:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs

Qualifier are more like weekend tournaments
I mean i am not saying that Taeja is bad, but i would sigbet (if i could, haha) that Taeja won't win a single korean tournament next year (probably even that he won't get to a semi final)

Probably not considering he's most likely only playing one season before he goes to the military.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 17 2014 14:09 GMT
#965
On December 17 2014 23:04 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:02 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Jer99 wrote:
Downfall this is your fault

Why? lol


"Terminator is pigbabys teammate"

You jinxed it

I warned you 15 hours in advance, why wouldn't you listen?!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 17 2014 14:10 GMT
#966
On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.


I don't think you understand your own argument. You're saying that Taeja lost because he sucks at preparation based leagues. I'm saying he lost simply because he didn't play his best, and that it had nothing to do with preparation.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 17 2014 14:10 GMT
#967
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 17 2014 14:10 GMT
#968
Seriously, Taeja is still far better than terminator. Those thinking that would imply winning every game never looked at TLPD profiles
LiquipediaWanderer
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
December 17 2014 14:10 GMT
#969
On December 17 2014 23:06 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:03 Cheerio wrote:
How many vikings do you need to oneshot colossus? Put them on a separate hotkey, the rest with the main army. When a fight starts use the group as intended.

14-16 depending on upgrades. You can't do that because if Phoenixes kill one of those Vikings, one Colossus suddenly survives with a few hit points left and you have to waste another entire volley of shots to kill it off.

or you take 1-2 vikings extra, or you take then 1-2 from nongrouped vikings and finish them off.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 17 2014 14:10 GMT
#970
On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that

And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion

This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes?


Your hypocrisy and irrational trash talk of Taeja is pretty on topic actually ^^ just wanted you to see that what you're saying about Taeja sounds pretty funny coming from a fanboy of a guy who has never won a tournament final over a Korean and never went nearly as far in GSL as Taeja who you claim can't win at all in preparation based tournaments.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 17 2014 14:12 GMT
#971
On December 17 2014 23:10 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:06 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:03 Cheerio wrote:
How many vikings do you need to oneshot colossus? Put them on a separate hotkey, the rest with the main army. When a fight starts use the group as intended.

14-16 depending on upgrades. You can't do that because if Phoenixes kill one of those Vikings, one Colossus suddenly survives with a few hit points left and you have to waste another entire volley of shots to kill it off.

or you take 1-2 vikings extra, or you take then 1-2 from nongrouped vikings and finish them off.

If TvP fights didn't last 0.43 second on average in SC2, yep
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 17 2014 14:12 GMT
#972
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question

Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Samx
Profile Joined August 2013
Singapore149 Posts
December 17 2014 14:12 GMT
#973
This feels weird. Watching MC speak korean.
Anyone else?
Our enemies are a legion and STILL you procrastinate
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 17 2014 14:12 GMT
#974
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question


With jjakji?

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#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 17 2014 14:12 GMT
#975
On December 17 2014 23:08 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs

Qualifier are more like weekend tournaments
I mean i am not saying that Taeja is bad, but i would sigbet (if i could, haha) that Taeja won't win a single korean tournament next year (probably even that he won't get to a semi final)

And I'll counter signet that Jaedong won't show up to one. The only Korean tournaments are GSL and SSL anyway. And I really don't understand why weekend tournaments are scoffed at by the community. They're just as difficult to win as longer events, it just takes raw skill instead of planing and preparation. Like if Taeja won a weekend tourney in korea would people still belittle it?

Why do you keep mentioning JD, this is absolutely ridiculous lol.
Cause the foreign weekend tournaments lack the competition of the korean standard leagues.
Sure you might have to win vs one or two code s class players to win that tournament, that isn't enough in code s though.
It isn't only about the format, it's also about the difficulty of competition.

On December 17 2014 23:08 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs

Qualifier are more like weekend tournaments
I mean i am not saying that Taeja is bad, but i would sigbet (if i could, haha) that Taeja won't win a single korean tournament next year (probably even that he won't get to a semi final)

Probably not considering he's most likely only playing one season before he goes to the military.


Oh didn't know that, haha. But that wasn't really my point :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 17 2014 14:12 GMT
#976
i know it's a bit off topic but anyone with a deep knowledge about kespa teams know how captain are selected ? i just noticed right now that zest is the captain of KT rolster, i thought it would be flash
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
December 17 2014 14:13 GMT
#977
Pls Innovation murder Stats lower the chances for a PvP finals.
:3
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 17 2014 14:13 GMT
#978
Haha "Cheeseking" can't play anything other than Protoss, it's a given.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 17 2014 14:13 GMT
#979
On December 17 2014 23:12 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:10 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:06 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:05 Big J wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?

He lost a single bo5 in Korea and everyone goes nuts. He qualified for SSL and GSL when soO and Zest couldn't lol. There is absolutely no way to generalize this result to his future performance in Korea. And to everyone saying he sucked in Korea before has selective memory and forget his deep GSL runs


There's a line though between Taeja bashing or claiming he isn't a very good player and "welcome back to Korea" which just states that the competition there is much tougher than what Taeja has been playing/winning.

Notice how Taeja never won WCS America. He always has the potential for deep runs in even the most stacked of tournaments. He had a bad series, but he's still a top 5 terran imo

Top2 without much question

Yeah but you probably put Flash as the other one

Nope, it's Bogus
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 17 2014 14:13 GMT
#980
On December 17 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that


"He didn't play his best" is completely relevant because it has nothing to do with preparation.

No, "he didn't play his best" is a cop out. It simply doesn't matter if you think he only lost "cause he didn't play at 100%", truth is he lost.

On December 17 2014 23:03 Yorkie wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 23:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 22:58 Yorkie wrote:
Come on guys. You know in your heart that that series is a dumb basis for your "welcome to back to Korea" and "lulz Taeja can only do well at foreign tournaments" shitposts

Why?


Because it was one single series and he didn't play his best.

Yeah sure it is only one series, but "he didn't play his best" is irrelevant.
He didn't win in a tournament with preparation, as usual.
Simple as that

And your hero turned down JAGW's offer for more money and so he didn't have to play in Korea so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion

This has nothing to do with Jaedong at all, pls stay on topic, yes?


Your hypocrisy and irrational trash talk of Taeja is pretty on topic actually ^^ just wanted you to see that what you're saying about Taeja sounds pretty funny coming from a fanboy of a guy who has never won a tournament final over a Korean and never went nearly as far in GSL as Taeja who you claim can't win at all in preparation based tournaments.


Tbf you're both sniping at each other. Just chill out and step away for a bit, this is why I always back off from TL if someone I like loses
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
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